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Pottermaniac
26 Dec 2004, 07:13 PM
This is not my original post.

Cocreador first mention it in the Mexico vs Sweden thread, but did not post the link. Anyway i thought this deserved its own thread.

the president of FMF has said that he had secured games against Ingland, Spain, and France. No specific date or place was given, only that they will take place.

here's the whole article

http://www.esto.com.mx/041226/futbol/14futbol.asp

diabouloussataneus
26 Dec 2004, 09:18 PM
thats great if true.

Pottermaniac
26 Dec 2004, 10:01 PM
yeah, they'll probably be spread throughout the year. it'll be great experience for the playes prior to the world cup. since they do not have a date yet i'm assuming it wont be soon, but the first one takes place in the second quarter of the year. or perhaps it'll be like a tour through Europe.

Luizarazu
26 Dec 2004, 10:21 PM
WAY better than a friendly Malta.

Pirru
26 Dec 2004, 10:55 PM
undefined IS MEXICO GOING TO PLAY AGAINST USA AGAIN? :( ;)

AtlasZorritoX4
26 Dec 2004, 11:14 PM
Yup they are going to play agianst USA!

Otaku
26 Dec 2004, 11:24 PM
undefined IS MEXICO GOING TO PLAY AGAINST USA AGAIN? :( ;)

Yes, in the Hex.

Pottermaniac
26 Dec 2004, 11:44 PM
undefined IS MEXICO GOING TO PLAY AGAINST USA AGAIN? :( ;)

Yes but only in the WCQ, I dont think is really worth to play them in friendlies anymore, specially at this stage of the qualifiers, since the world cup would be a year away.

aguilas
27 Dec 2004, 02:41 AM
That article says that they might play those teams not that they will. I never want to watch Mexico play England again after last time :( .

Pottermaniac
27 Dec 2004, 09:37 AM
That article says that they might play those teams not that they will. I never want to watch Mexico play England again after last time :( .

Yes that was bad, but we have a much better team now that when Meza was around.

SoulflyTribeFC
27 Dec 2004, 10:48 PM
Yes that was bad, but we have a much better team now that when Meza was around.

England will still whip any team in CONCACAF, Mexico and US included. The US might hang with them and Mexico definitely would in Mexico but it's no contest in the end.

It would serve both US and Mexico great if they played England, though. Malta, WTF is Malta? Hell, Mexico should just play Albania again.

jlscrub
27 Dec 2004, 10:53 PM
England will still whip any team in CONCACAF, Mexico and US included. The US might hang with them and Mexico definitely would in Mexico but it's no contest in the end.

It would serve both US and Mexico great if they played England, though. Malta, WTF is Malta? Hell, Mexico should just play Albania again.

I dont think you can honestly say that, since there is no way to know or atleast way to many variable to calculate when assessing how both teams would match up head to head (Mexico and England). Personally, I think Argentina would beat England, and Mexico recently beat them--remember.

SoulflyTribeFC
27 Dec 2004, 11:05 PM
I dont think you can honestly say that, since there is no way to know or atleast way to many variable to calculate when assessing how both teams would match up head to head (Mexico and England). Personally, I think Argentina would beat England, and Mexico recently beat them--remember.

Well, England is without question one of the world's strongest sides. Last time around, it wasn't even a contest between Mexico and England. The first string completely and utterly destroyed Mexico in the first half; beautiful goals, excellent build-ups, awesome finishing. The second-stringers did almost the same in the second half.

What's funny is you reject my statement that England would beat Mexico by saying "I dont think you can honsetly say that..." but then you come right back and say that Argentina would beat England. Well, on what basis would you say that Argentina would beat England? Because Argentina beat them in the last World Cup? Oh, wait, they didn't. And yeah, Mexico did beat Argentina, but that was their U-23 squad, not their full squad and that victory has already been dismissed by some of the members of this board as a bit overrated.

nyrmetros
27 Dec 2004, 11:15 PM
USA vs Inger-Land

Pottermaniac
28 Dec 2004, 01:51 AM
England will still whip any team in CONCACAF, Mexico and US included. The US might hang with them and Mexico definitely would in Mexico but it's no contest in the end.

It would serve both US and Mexico great if they played England, though. Malta, WTF is Malta? Hell, Mexico should just play Albania again.

Dude, you guys playe Mexico in 2001, that was the worst team i've seen, they barely qualified, but we manage to put ourselves together and make it to the world up where we were 1st place in our group. Now the Mexican team is much stronger and i can honestly say that Mexico has almost a 50/50 chance of winning. I'm not saying England sucks because of that. England is one of the best teams in the world, there is no queston about it, and there is no shame on loosing to England, but you must accept the fact that mexico might win. I believe both teams are equally balanced. Mexico has made it to the second round in the past 3 world cups and in 86 to the quarter finals. When was the last time England got past the quarter finals? they get there pretty much every time, but after '66 England stayed there. Like is said before England is one of the best teams, i'm just trying to point out how equally balanced both teams are. and Mexico is only leading England by 1 point in the fifa rankings, if England had gotten one more, they would have been tied for 7th.

jlscrub
28 Dec 2004, 02:25 AM
Well, England is without question one of the world's strongest sides. Last time around, it wasn't even a contest between Mexico and England. The first string completely and utterly destroyed Mexico in the first half; beautiful goals, excellent build-ups, awesome finishing. The second-stringers did almost the same in the second half.

What's funny is you reject my statement that England would beat Mexico by saying "I dont think you can honsetly say that..." but then you come right back and say that Argentina would beat England. Well, on what basis would you say that Argentina would beat England? Because Argentina beat them in the last World Cup? Oh, wait, they didn't. And yeah, Mexico did beat Argentina, but that was their U-23 squad, not their full squad and that victory has already been dismissed by some of the members of this board as a bit overrated.

Im not sure to which England-Mexico match you are referring to. I think it is the one back in 2001 or something like that. I am not interested in the past. Mexico right now as we speak is strong while England is not. Plain and simple. You may or may not agree that mexico is strong at this moment, but you cannot refute that England is definelty not playing well. You are assuming too much on the past and are grossly underestimating Mexico. Sven G Erickson is too busy banging secretarys instead of focusing the team. You are also sorely wrong that Argentina brought its U-23 team. You are plain wrong. Look at that team and you should know some key players were kept off the Olympic squad due to their age. It is only coincidence that the team is young. Bielsa wanted the team that way. Peckerman is changing things completley differently. Dont assume, you only dig yourself a bigger hole.

SoulflyTribeFC
28 Dec 2004, 11:01 AM
Im not sure to which England-Mexico match you are referring to. I think it is the one back in 2001 or something like that. I am not interested in the past. Mexico right now as we speak is strong while England is not. Plain and simple. You may or may not agree that mexico is strong at this moment, but you cannot refute that England is definelty not playing well. You are assuming too much on the past and are grossly underestimating Mexico. Sven G Erickson is too busy banging secretarys instead of focusing the team. You are also sorely wrong that Argentina brought its U-23 team. You are plain wrong. Look at that team and you should know some key players were kept off the Olympic squad due to their age. It is only coincidence that the team is young. Bielsa wanted the team that way. Peckerman is changing things completley differently. Dont assume, you only dig yourself a bigger hole.

England did well in Euro 2004. A bad call kept them from beating Portugal. I don't know if I'm willing to say that England is definitely not playing well right now. England's got three wins and a draw from four matches so far in qualifying. I don't know how that could be viewed as "not playing well."

I'm not underestimating Mexico. I know how strong Mexico is and if this match was played in Mexico, like I said earlier, Mexico would more than just hang with England. So don't you assume what my thoughts about Mexico are.

LMvCP
28 Dec 2004, 11:47 AM
England did well in Euro 2004. A bad call kept them from beating Portugal. I don't know if I'm willing to say that England is definitely not playing well right now. England's got three wins and a draw from four matches so far in qualifying. I don't know how that could be viewed as "not playing well."

I'm not underestimating Mexico. I know how strong Mexico is and if this match was played in Mexico, like I said earlier, Mexico would more than just hang with England. So don't you assume what my thoughts about Mexico are.
Italy played England once in 2001 and another in 2002 before the WC. Italy won both times.

Now, I am not trying to say or suggest that because we outplayed Italy in Korea/Japan that would conclude that we would have outplayed any team Italy had beaten. But what i am suggesting that basing it off ONE game is rather stupid on your part. The Mexican team that played England in 2001 under Meza had one problem-too many friends. David Oteo, Hugo Chavez, Chima Ruiz, Victor Ruiz, David Rangel, Alberto Coyote :eek: Jose Manuel Abundis. These players, albeit good veteran players in the Mexican league, were FAR from being Mexico best players at the time nor would they have been B teamers.


Torino (Stadio Delle Alpi) - Wednesday, 15 November 2000 - h. 20,45
ITALIA - ENGLAND 1-0 (0-0) Friendly
ITALIA: Buffon (Parma) 16, Cannavaro I (Parma) 45, Nesta (Lazio) 35 (67'Adani (Fiorentina) 1), Maldini (Milan) 114 (cap.), Di Livio (Fiorentina) 32 (52' D. Zenoni (Atalanta) 1), Albertini (Milan) 76 (52' Di Biagio (Inter) 20), Gattuso (Milan) 6, Coco (Milan) 3, Fiore I (Udinese) 14, Inzaghi I (Juventus) 28 (72' Del Piero (Juventus) 40), Delvecchio (Roma) 11 (61' Inzaghi II (Lazio) 2).
Coach: G. Trapattoni.
Subs bench: Toldo (Fiorentina), Pancaro (Lazio), Pessotto I (Juventus), Ambrosini (Milan).
ENGLAND: James, G. Neville, Ferdinand, Southgate, Parlour (79' Anderton), Beckham (cap.), Dyer (82' Fowler), Butt (25' Carragher), Barry (72' Johnson), Heskey (72' Philips), Barmby.
Coach: G. Taylor.
Subs bench: Robinson, P. Neville, Ball, Lampard, Wright.

Leeds - Wednesday, 27 March 2002
ENGLAND - ITALIA 1-2 (0-0) Friendly
ENGLAND: Martyn (46' James); Mills (46' P. Neville), Southgate (46' Ehiogu), Campbell (46' King), Bridge (87' G. Neville); Beckham (46' Cole), Lampard (46' Hargreaves), Butt (46' Murphy), Sinclair (72'Sheringham); Heskey (46' Vassell), Owen (46' Fowler).
Coach: Eriksson.
Subs bench: Wright.
ITALIA: Buffon (Juventus) 24; Cannavaro (Parma) 56 (cap.), Nesta (Lazio) 41 (83' Adani (Fiorentina) 2), Materazzi (Inter) 6 (57' Iuliano (Juventus) 15), Panucci II (Roma) 22 (75' Coco (Barcelona) 12);Zambrotta (Juventus) 21, Zanetti (Inter) 3 (57' Gattuso (Milan) 11),Di Biagio (Inter) 24 (57' Albertini (Milan) 79), Doni (Atalanta) 3(75' Tommasi (Roma) 12); Totti (Roma) 29 (46' Montella (Roma) 12);Delvecchio (Roma) 15 (75' Maccarone (Empoli) 1).
Coach: G. Trapattoni.
Subs bench: Toldo (Inter), Pessotto (Juventus), Di Livio (Fiorentina).
Referee: Fandel (Germany)
Scorers: 63' Fowler (E), 67' and 92' Montella

Mosco
28 Dec 2004, 01:03 PM
Ok let me put this to you more straight without any ignorrance!!! If Mexico were to play England back in the 70 's 60 's or even some 80's we would get smoked but now! Now it's a whole new Mexico!! They have been improving scince back when England was a power now that Mexico has caught the pace of the world sport their a competitor!!! btw-- I'm so glad it's about time we get some European powers as oppents instead of playing usa and guatemala and same old costa rica!!! Thank God!!

jlscrub
28 Dec 2004, 01:14 PM
England did well in Euro 2004. A bad call kept them from beating Portugal. I don't know if I'm willing to say that England is definitely not playing well right now. England's got three wins and a draw from four matches so far in qualifying. I don't know how that could be viewed as "not playing well."

I'm not underestimating Mexico. I know how strong Mexico is and if this match was played in Mexico, like I said earlier, Mexico would more than just hang with England. So don't you assume what my thoughts about Mexico are.

Your right by saying England is playing well. I just have a different view. I expect a lot from the Brits and I view thier play in Euro 04 as chokingly mediocre. Beckam where did he kick that ball? Right now they are in really easy qualifying section. I hope they do as good when they move on to play more competitive teams. I mostly took my current view of not playing well with that awful performance in Spain. Sorry for trying to assume what is inside you mind. :o