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Danners9
24 Dec 2004, 04:42 PM
I know it's all water under the bridge and all that, but as his contract is up for renewal at the Woolwich this season we remember what he did to us.

So in light of this i would like to give a brief history lesson. Sit back, gather round and grab a wee dram of whiskey. If ya like.

I am sure most people have seen Braveheart with Mel Gibbon in the leading role, the film portrays how the brutal English over the poor, feuding Scots and dispite a few little victories the English could always bring up more soldiers and make life a lot worse for the Scots. All that is true, of course. But people forget that there were just as many Scots fighting for the English as there were against them. Gibson's team had the Irish on their side to make up the numbers.

Anyway, the main two 'feuders' were the MacDonalds (of which i am one, on my Mothers side) and the Campbells - under the leadership of Captain Robert Campbell.

The Macs and the Cams had fought for ages, the Cams were prosperous and ambitious but the Macs were resilient and very good at making something from nothing. A few little fights took place, few people captured, killed and whatever else...

Robert Campbell went to the chief of the MacDonalds and tried to broker a deal where they would stand down against the English in exchange for land and titles for their people.. sounds a good deal i suppose.

However, the Campbells never intended the deal to be accepted as they had already made up their mind. They decided it would be better for themselves to fight with the English against the country they came from and who made them rich.

The MacDonalds were betrayed, the Campbells fought with the English and got their prizes in Scotland and became successful. For a bit anyway.



Boring and irrelevant perhaps, but.. A team with the Irish on their side (Keane, Carr, Doherty, Kelly), a Campbell who leaves the country who made them for the country on the up, makes a deal with no intention of going through with it, leaving everyone believing it's all ok and then stabbing them in the back and siding with the enemy.

It's not his fault, 300 years or so of treachery is bound to find it's way down the line somehow. However, the clan system was then wiped out and the Campbell's success was short lived...


... when a Russian billionaire oil baron moved over and started buying up all the good soldiers from across europe who were willing to desert for a huge ransom.

;)

pookspur
24 Dec 2004, 06:30 PM
don't make excuses for him.


were genetics at fault when judas iscariot betrayed Christ?

was treason just something in vidkun quisling's DNA?

can the bloodline of benedict arnold be the...
...ok, not a good example for a brit.


anyway, you get my point. let's just leave him a vile, reprehensible, treasonous bastard, and move on.

LedleybetterthanSol
25 Dec 2004, 12:07 AM
yes, Campbell is scum, but a good defender.

The Canandien WizKid
25 Dec 2004, 06:32 PM
I know it's all water under the bridge and all that, but as his contract is up for renewal at the Woolwich this season we remember what he did to us.

So in light of this i would like to give a brief history lesson. Sit back, gather round and grab a wee dram of whiskey. If ya like.

I am sure most people have seen Braveheart with Mel Gibbon in the leading role, the film portrays how the brutal English over the poor, feuding Scots and dispite a few little victories the English could always bring up more soldiers and make life a lot worse for the Scots. All that is true, of course. But people forget that there were just as many Scots fighting for the English as there were against them. Gibson's team had the Irish on their side to make up the numbers.

Anyway, the main two 'feuders' were the MacDonalds (of which i am one, on my Mothers side) and the Campbells - under the leadership of Captain Robert Campbell.

The Macs and the Cams had fought for ages, the Cams were prosperous and ambitious but the Macs were resilient and very good at making something from nothing. A few little fights took place, few people captured, killed and whatever else...

Robert Campbell went to the chief of the MacDonalds and tried to broker a deal where they would stand down against the English in exchange for land and titles for their people.. sounds a good deal i suppose.

However, the Campbells never intended the deal to be accepted as they had already made up their mind. They decided it would be better for themselves to fight with the English against the country they came from and who made them rich.

The MacDonalds were betrayed, the Campbells fought with the English and got their prizes in Scotland and became successful. For a bit anyway.



Boring and irrelevant perhaps, but.. A team with the Irish on their side (Keane, Carr, Doherty, Kelly), a Campbell who leaves the country who made them for the country on the up, makes a deal with no intention of going through with it, leaving everyone believing it's all ok and then stabbing them in the back and siding with the enemy.

It's not his fault, 300 years or so of treachery is bound to find it's way down the line somehow. However, the clan system was then wiped out and the Campbell's success was short lived...


... when a Russian billionaire oil baron moved over and started buying up all the good soldiers from across europe who were willing to desert for a huge ransom.

;)
LOL wow thats funny stuff,

don't worry once ledley realizes he ain't getting any youonger, and titles aren't coming, he'll be ours, all too soon :D

LedleybetterthanSol
25 Dec 2004, 08:50 PM
We'll see, greenhorn. :D

Danners9
26 Dec 2004, 10:15 AM
Not really sure it's funny, it's true though! Well.. most of it, i fixed a few little things to fit the story.

He's blatently not a Scottish Campbell, but his ancestors probably took the name of their missionary or slave owner - as was the way back then.

Btw, what's a Canandien?

The Canandien WizKid
26 Dec 2004, 12:07 PM
long story,eh. Don't worry aboot it!

phishy
27 Dec 2004, 11:25 PM
don't make excuses for him.


were genetics at fault when judas iscariot betrayed Christ?

was treason just something in vidkun quisling's DNA?

can the bloodline of benedict arnold be the...
...ok, not a good example for a brit.


anyway, you get my point. let's just leave him a vile, reprehensible, treasonous bastard, and move on.

you only have ONE career... you want to actually win something when you are a footballer. There was ZERO chance of it happening at sperz.. he moved to a club where he has won, and will continue to win trophies. judas blah blah.. its all a bit dramatic and overplayed with you lot. its his life, not yours.. end of.

pookspur
28 Dec 2004, 11:56 AM
you only have ONE career... you want to actually win something when you are a footballer. There was ZERO chance of it happening at sperz.. he moved to a club where he has won, and will continue to win trophies. judas blah blah.. its all a bit dramatic and overplayed with you lot. its his life, not yours.. end of.

it was just a joke, phish.

Danners9
28 Dec 2004, 12:00 PM
yeha man, calm down.

The scottish story is true, but i really did stretch it to accomodate Sol Campbell.

Stogey23
28 Dec 2004, 12:05 PM
Good story, never heard of it. I'm a MacDonald on my mom's side, but I imagine tons of Scottish people are.