What Gives USSF Their Authority?

[UncleSam527]

All this lockout talk has me wondering; what gives the USSF their authority? Who says that they are the one and only organization that is able to field teams which represent our country?

What if someone with millions of dollars wants to create an equal organization, say the "USFA"? If the "USFA" somehow got all the nats players who are currently being locked out to side with them, what stops those players from representing the United States?

Though I know there is some exception in the books for USSF, it seems to me that they have monopolized the business of international soccer in the United States.

[SABuffalo786]

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[Magpie Maniac]

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[UncleSam527]

FIFA has been known for being corrupt; but how corrupt? Could you bribe FIFA enough to take away USSF's authority and give it to your own organization?

[JRstriker12]

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For the good of the game???? Placing Fifa and that sentence in the same page..... it's almost like satire. Maybe dark humor?

[AndyMead]

These guys are also involved:
http://www.blackathlete.net/usoc.jpg

[seahawkdad]

These guys are also involved:
http://www.blackathlete.net/usoc.jpgWell, I feel so much better knowing that :rolleyes:

[Adam Zebrowski]

the same olympic committee under avery brundige, who adhered to hitlers wish to keep jewish sprinters off the usa 4X100 team in berlin...

and the same olympic group who had the best of their athletes living on food stamps until the late 1970's before the movement started by steve prefontaine ended that folly...


players make a counter proposal...

in all fairness, it's ussf turn...and if they don't move closer to the player demands this all could get ugly...

sure the hex is weak, but you drop the two road matches and field a scab team in birmingham, lose there, usa will be TOO far behind to have any room for error....

so ussf fields the scabs in trinidad....and hope this causes enough key players to blink...

is this really a healthy environment to enter matches??

[Grah]

the same olympic committee under avery brundige, who adhered to hitlers wish to keep jewish sprinters off the usa 4X100 team in berlin...

and the same olympic group who had the best of their athletes living on food stamps until the late 1970's before the movement started by steve prefontaine ended that folly...


players make a counter proposal...

in all fairness, it's ussf turn...and if they don't move closer to the player demands this all could get ugly...

sure the hex is weak, but you drop the two road matches and field a scab team in birmingham, lose there, usa will be TOO far behind to have any room for error....

so ussf fields the scabs in trinidad....and hope this causes enough key players to blink...

is this really a healthy environment to enter matches??

Is this coming from someone where black players where barred from Baseball and NFL for many many years.

Watch how much history you want to dig up there isn't a single country that does have a skeleton or two in the cupboard.



Here a question for you as you seem to know so much .

How much money does the Olympic athletes get from the revenue generated at the Olympics 2000 2004 and the revenue from all other qualifying meets?

[Adam Zebrowski]

I can speak for track and field, and in the olympic trials you get paid certain amounts for whether you are 1st, 2nd, 3rd...

I don't recollect the exact amounts, but 50k for 1st sounds in the neigborhood...

and at the World Championships and Olympics, athletes are similarly rewarded for getting medals...

all the stir about BALCO and why so many in track and field will cheat, is because they can make big bucks at it...

appearance fees in europe are huge, the elite names can claim $100,000 appearance fees ....

you might recollect Paula Radcliffe who had to drop out of the marathon and 10K, went on to run the New York City marathon...she got $500,000 appearance fee just to show up.....

[petersoccer]

All this lockout talk has me wondering; what gives the USSF their authority? Who says that they are the one and only organization that is able to field teams which represent our country?

What if someone with millions of dollars wants to create an equal organization, say the "USFA"? If the "USFA" somehow got all the nats players who are currently being locked out to side with them, what stops those players from representing the United States?

Though I know there is some exception in the books for USSF, it seems to me that they have monopolized the business of international soccer in the United States.

Simple answer FIFA would not allow this.

[denver_mugwamp]

Simple answer FIFA would not allow this.

Too simple of an answer. FIFA has no special legal authority inside the US. Does anybody know if the USOC has an exemption from congress for US anti-trust laws? Even at the USSF level, soccer is a business and has to obey the same rules as everybody else. I'm curious myself now about why somneone else could not start another foundation and their own USMNT.

[Grah]

Too simple of an answer. FIFA has no special legal authority inside the US. Does anybody know if the USOC has an exemption from congress for US anti-trust laws? Even at the USSF level, soccer is a business and has to obey the same rules as everybody else. I'm curious myself now about why somneone else could not start another foundation and their own USMNT.


Lets put it this way if you wanted to play with the rest of the world you do what FIFA says.

If you want to do what the rest of your sports do you stay home and play yourselves

[Grah]

I can speak for track and field, and in the olympic trials you get paid certain amounts for whether you are 1st, 2nd, 3rd...

I don't recollect the exact amounts, but 50k for 1st sounds in the neigborhood...

and at the World Championships and Olympics, athletes are similarly rewarded for getting medals...

all the stir about BALCO and why so many in track and field will cheat, is because they can make big bucks at it...

appearance fees in europe are huge, the elite names can claim $100,000 appearance fees ....

you might recollect Paula Radcliffe who had to drop out of the marathon and 10K, went on to run the New York City marathon...she got $500,000 appearance fee just to show up.....


Are those appears paid for by the national federation no nothing to do at all with Revenue earned by a national federation.

So if the person trains their whole life and does get a medal after qualifying for the olympics and helping the revenue by being there they get nothing.

So is that acceptable to you only pay if your in the top 3 final rank.

1st place gets 645,000 per usa player at the world cup. So are they after double that?

[Bruce S]

FIFA has been known for being corrupt; but how corrupt? Could you bribe FIFA enough to take away USSF's authority and give it to your own organization?
that is a dirty lie. When some people made that claim they got taken to Swiss court, there was a trial and FIFA and Blatter won.The guys who claimed that Blatter was corrupt got to a trial and they lost.Allegations are easy.There was a trial and the claimm that Fifa was corrupt was disproven in court and the other side had to pay damages for the claim.

[FormerGermanGuy]

Too simple of an answer. FIFA has no special legal authority inside the US. Does anybody know if the USOC has an exemption from congress for US anti-trust laws? Even at the USSF level, soccer is a business and has to obey the same rules as everybody else. I'm curious myself now about why somneone else could not start another foundation and their own USMNT.

FIFA owns the World Cup. FIFA recognizes one (count 'em, 1) U.S. Soccer Federation.

It seems like a pretty simple answer to me after all. Break with USSF=No World Cup. Or is my math wrong there?

[mpruitt]

FIFA owns the World Cup. FIFA recognizes one (count 'em, 1) U.S. Soccer Federation.

It seems like a pretty simple answer to me after all. Break with USSF=No World Cup. Or is my math wrong there?
Nope you got it. It's as if a country decided that they weren't going to follow the IOC' rules. Okay, well then you can compete for the tin, aluminum, and steel medals at whatever games you come up with.

[RUUDVN]

This is the corrupt year, everyone corrupt, Martha Stewart, enron, United Nation and now, the USSF. :o

[Hayduke]

Too simple of an answer. FIFA has no special legal authority inside the US. Does anybody know if the USOC has an exemption from congress for US anti-trust laws? Even at the USSF level, soccer is a business and has to obey the same rules as everybody else. I'm curious myself now about why somneone else could not start another foundation and their own USMNT.

I've always wondered why Fifa is allowed to exist under international antitrust laws as well. I'm frankly suprised no one has filed a complaint with the WTO over their refusal to allow the MFL to have a female player on one of their teams.

[petersoccer]

I've always wondered why Fifa is allowed to exist under international antitrust laws as well. I'm frankly suprised no one has filed a complaint with the WTO over their refusal to allow the MFL to have a female player on one of their teams.

So tell us who should govern World Soccer?