The new 10 in Boca, Carlos Tévez, part I- NEWS & INTERVIEWS

[efernandez9]

convocado por tocalli para el Mundial Juvenil
el esta lesionado

Le dira No a la seleccion nacional?

[efernandez9]

hoy deciden la situacion de tevez con la seleccion Juvenil.

amenanzas:

1/ Tevez no podria jugar por mucho tiempo en ninguna seleccion si el se niega jugar el Mundial Juvenil
2/ Tevez no jugaria con boca vs sanlorenzo o la Intercontinental si el club o Bianchi no lo prestan para el mundial
3/ si la AFA le permite estar en tokio y no en la concentracion al Mundial, los otros clubes tienen derecho a NO prestar Jugadores a la seleccion Juvenil.


quien gana? Nadie! NO one will win in this mess

[EL MONO MARIO]

Carlos Tevez dejó clara su posición sobre su convocatoria al Sub 20 en declaraciones radiales, aunque agregó: "Yo no quiero renunciar al Mundial o a la Selección, porque es muy malo para el jugador". Interrogado sobre si, en caso de no viajar con el Sub 20, teme no ser convocado posteriormente para integrar el seleccionado mayor, el delantero negó esa idea: "Creo que me van a comprender si quiero jugar en Boca".

[EL MONO MARIO]

Carlos Tevez dejó clara su posición sobre su convocatoria al Sub 20 en declaraciones radiales, aunque agregó: "Yo no quiero renunciar al Mundial o a la Selección, porque es muy malo para el jugador". Interrogado sobre si, en caso de no viajar con el Sub 20, teme no ser convocado posteriormente para integrar el seleccionado mayor, el delantero negó esa idea: "Creo que me van a comprender si quiero jugar en Boca".

[EL MONO MARIO]

El presidente del club xeneize afirmó hoy que el recurso de amparo presentado por Carlos Tevez a la justicia para poder jugar la Copa Intercontinental fue una movida de índole personal. “Boca está para apoyarlo", afirmó Mauricio Macri

[EL MONO MARIO]

Carlos Tevez podrá jugar por Boca los partidos que restan por el Apertura y también la Intercontinental, ante Milan, el 14 de diciembre. El juez Jorge Ramón Gude, en una rápida decisión, habilitó al jugador quien había interpuesto un amparo para lograr la habilitación provisoria. De todas modos, el Apache padece una distensión de ligamentos lateral interno de la rodilla izquierda, de la que se vio sorprendentemente recuperado en las últimas horas, aun cuando no jugaría hasta el 30, el día que Boca enfrenta a Olimpo y Bianchi pretende probarlo antes de ir a *#*#*#ón

COMO QUIEREN LOS GILES QUE BOSTA SALGA CAMPEON!!!

[efernandez9]

ayer en la celebracion: le sangraba el hueco del cuello, por aca alguien dice que fue accidente de infante, pero los 3 huecos del pescuezo se veina infectados y sangrando o con costras

nasty stuff... con todo el dinero del pibe - se deberia tratar eso (ya le pubertad le paso) y arreglar los dientes que parecen una escalera de madera vieja!

[Pingudo]

What's an apertura or clausura tournament? is it half a tournament?

Let's say you have 20 teams in a league. In the first round a team plays 19 games (against every other team in the league). Is this what is normally called Apertura? and then the play the other 19 games. Is that clausura? or do they play all 34 games once (apertura) and then they play another 34 games (clausura) thanks.

[vipnerd]

Originally posted by pingudo2
What's an apertura or clausura tournament? is it half a tournament?

Let's say you have 20 teams in a league. In the first round a team plays 19 games (against every other team in the league). Is this what is normally called Apertura? and then the play the other 19 games. Is that clausura? or do they play all 34 games once (apertura) and then they play another 34 games (clausura) thanks.

It is like a regular European tournament. The Apertura ends when a team plays all the others once.

The Clausura the same. In one tournament you play local, in the next tournament away.


It is meant to give two chances to be champion. In long tournaments like in Europe, a team that started slow is most likely gone from the title race. But since Europe has more qualifying tournaments, like the UEFA Cup, it still makes the tournament interesting.

This is not the case in South America, hence the decision of the Argentine Football Federation - AFA.

Also, a tournament of 19 games leaves less space for a team to spread a considerable difference. Therefore, there is expectation til the end. The exception to the rule is Boca. They win it with several games to go. :D

[Pingudo]

Thanks for the info. But in such circumstances who's declared the champion for that season? if river wins the apertura and boca wins the clausura, do they play at the end to determine who the argentine champion for that year is? how do they choose the number one team for copa libertadores?

[Mario]

River won Torneo Clausura 03 (finished on july 7th) Boca won Torneo Apertura 03 (to be finished on december 23rd) no title dispute between them since there are two separate championships.

[vipnerd]

Originally posted by pingudo2
Thanks for the info. But in such circumstances who's declared the champion for that season? if river wins the apertura and boca wins the clausura, do they play at the end to determine who the argentine champion for that year is? how do they choose the number one team for copa libertadores?


I believe the #1 team would be the Apertura and the # 2 the Clausura champion. Both are in the Liertadores, but there is no relevance when seedings are made. they call them by the numbering provided by AFA. The two teams with the highest combined points (Apertura & Clausura) that are not the Champions also participate in the Libertadores Cup.

And as for the champion ... there are two champions in a year. Just like in Mexico.

[Mario]

sorry but you're wrong, the tournament that goes from february to july its called clausura and the other one from august to december its called apertura, dont ask me why, I dont have the answer.


http://www.futbolargentino.com/apertura/

http://www.futbolargentino.com/clausura/2003/index.asp

http://www.futbolargentino.com/AutoNoticias/DetalleNoticia15387.asp

[vipnerd]

Originally posted by Mario
sorry but you're wrong, the tournament that goes from february to july its called clausura and the other one from august to december its called apertura, dont ask me why, I dont have the answer.


http://www.futbolargentino.com/apertura/

http://www.futbolargentino.com/clausura/2003/index.asp

http://www.futbolargentino.com/AutoNoticias/DetalleNoticia15387.asp


It is called that way because they follow the same cycle as the European schedule. Their champions for the following Libertadores are based on that.

Independiente was Champion of the Apertura last December and River won the Clausura earlier this year. The two of them will participate in the following Libertadores Cup as Champions. Boca will too as the reigning champ.

Boca is the 1st qualified for the Libertadores 2005 as Champion of the Apertura this year (won it last week).

[Mario]

first of all, Boca earned the right to play the Libertadores the moment they won the Cup, not because they just won the Apertura, they will be the defendant champions, as for the other argentine entries, they will be the teams with the most points between both tournaments.

Im sorry, I provided a link with a minimum mistake, but if you carefully see there are 3 tournaments listed in year 2002:


2002-Clausura RIVER PLATE

2002-Apertura INDEPENDIENTE

2002-Clausura RIVER PLATE


when the pattern is Clausura first and Apertura second:

1998-Clausura VELEZ SARSFIELD

1998-Apertura BOCA JUNIORS

1999-Clausura BOCA JUNIORS

1999-Apertura RIVER PLATE

2000-Clausura RIVER PLATE

2000-Apertura BOCA JUNIORS

2001-Clausura SAN LORENZO

2001-Apertura RACING CLUB

so if you say River won the Apertura 02 you're wrong, they won the Apertura 03.

[vipnerd]

Originally posted by vipnerd


Independiente was Champion of the Apertura last December and River won the Clausura earlier this year. The two of them will participate in the following Libertadores Cup as Champions. Boca will too as the reigning champ.

Boca is the 1st qualified for the Libertadores 2005 as Champion of the Apertura this year (won it last week).

Mario, I think we are saying the same thing. :)

[Danks81]

Is he a midfielder or a striker?

[efernandez9]

see the argentina forum

several comments on him

to me he is un armador de juego que sabe meter goles y ponerlos a boca de jarro!

[dienasty]

I heard that Teves would be heading to Europe, he didn't play in the superclasico. Is this true?

[HinchaDeRiver]

Anybody see Tevez parodies on VideoMatch?