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13 Dec 2004, 08:31 AM
It appears as though most of the clubs in the top two divisions come from the Rheinland area? It's understandable if there aren't too many Eastern German clubs but what about the rest of Germany-
Why is that?
Apologise if it's a silly question.
DanielHSV
13 Dec 2004, 11:17 AM
I'll try to explain, hopefully my english will be good enough...
By far the most people per km² live in Nordrhein-Westfalen and especially in the Ruhrgebiet you have a large number of cities. Its almost like one huge city, just the signs show you that you are in a different city than 5 minutes before. So its no big surprise that most clubs come from that area.
Alex_K
13 Dec 2004, 11:42 AM
There aren't actually that many Rheinland clubs (i guess you only mean the Rheinland, and not the state NRW). Considering the huge population of the Rheinland 8 out of 36 sounds about right (Köln, Leverkusen and 'Gladbach in the first and Aachen, Duisburg, Trier (Rheinland-Pfalz), Oberhausen and Essen in the second division).
13 Dec 2004, 11:50 AM
There aren't actually that many Rheinland clubs (i guess you only mean the Rheinland, and not the state NRW). Considering the huge population of the Rheinland 8 out of 36 sounds about right (Köln, Leverkusen and 'Gladbach in the first and Aachen, Duisburg, Trier (Rheinland-Pfalz), Oberhausen and Essen in the second division).
What about Bochum, Dortmund, Schalke and Frankfurt? Aren't they also considered Rheinland? Sorry I grouped together every club that is in proximity to each other.
My populace concentraion of Germany is somewhat lacking, but yes that explains the higher number of clubs.
Alex_K
13 Dec 2004, 11:56 AM
No, Dortmund, Schalke, Bochum (and Bielefeld) are in Westfalen (the first three in the Ruhr area) and Frankfurt (and Mainz) are in the Rhein-Main region.
13 Dec 2004, 12:00 PM
No, Dortmund, Schalke, Bochum (and Bielefeld) are in Westfalen (the first three in the Ruhr area) and Frankfurt (and Mainz) are in the Rhein-Main region.
Ok well that is what I meant, basically clubs within close driving distance from each other. I suppose DanielHSV answered it best that it is the most populace area.
96Squig
13 Dec 2004, 12:57 PM
Ok well that is what I meant, basically clubs within close driving distance from each other. I suppose DanielHSV answered it best that it is the most populace area.
I would add to it that they have more money overall than the north or areas like the Saarland or the Pfalz.
jonam
13 Dec 2004, 06:02 PM
It appears as though most of the clubs in the top two divisions come from the Rheinland area? It's understandable if there aren't too many Eastern German clubs but what about the rest of Germany-
Why is that?
Apologise if it's a silly question.
Rhineland: Leverkusen, Gladbach (D2: Köln, Aachen)
Ruhr Valley: Dortmund, Gelsenkirchen, Bochum (D2: Duisburg, Oberhausen, Essen)
The Ruhr Valley can be defined as the region between Lippe (North), Ruhr (South), Rhine (West) and the city of Unna (East). Though Duisburg is not strictly east of Rhine, it is widely considered as part of the Ruhr Valley due to its absolute mining history and fading borders to Oberhausen. At all this is one major city without real gaps in between.
http://www.schwatzgelb.com/fanservice/pics/map_ruhrvalley.gif
Btw, I don't know whether Aachen people consider themselves as "Rheinländer" as it is more than 50km off the Rhine.
14 Dec 2004, 06:41 AM
Thanks for answering, will rep all of you as soon as this 24hr thing goes.
Alex_K
14 Dec 2004, 09:00 AM
Btw, I don't know whether Aachen people consider themselves as "Rheinländer" as it is more than 50km off the Rhine.
Well, according to the "Landschaftsverband Rheinland" they are. I guess this is the easiest definition, as this organitzation includes all cities in the Nordrhein part of NRW (on the other hand it misses the Rheinland part of Rheinland-Pfalz). This is the list of member cities: http://www.lvr.de/QuerDez/Der+LVR/Mitgliedskoerperschaften/