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JoeSoccerFan
11 Dec 2004, 12:09 AM
OK - weird title - ok. Sorry that I have been putting this off for so long....

The "WC Travel plans" thread is becoming wieldy. A request has been made to start a thread for single travelers looking to coordinate and collaborate their plans in Germany. Let’s see if we can use this thread to post for solo travelers looking for someone to hook up with.

snip ... I'm all for hooking up with several others for company and economy. I'm one of those travelers who sees no need in traveling in luxury, but I'm not going to sleep on a park bench either. Convenience, cleanliness, and cost. Maybe we need a thread for "organized solos".


It would probably be best to specify a little about yourself, priorities, interests, locale preference: Here's a list of things that might be useful:

Gender: M
Age: 40
Marital status: Married
Hometown: Laurel, MD
Occupation: IT manager
Length of Stay: At least until US is knocked out – So I’m planning on the whole month!
Interests (while in Germany): In this order -
Attend all US games
Attend other games
Watch all other games on TV
Sit, drink, eat and talk with fans (and native Germans)
Visit attractions (Castle on the rhine, German Museum in Munich, Amsterdam museum, Amsterdam, Austria – love Sound of Music, perhaps Strasbourg, Colmar museum), relax
Local Preference: I think a shared flat may be most economical. Here are my priorities:
Near a train station (within 15 minute walk)
Minimal travel to all games. I think it’s a mistake to go to the edges of Germany (Berlin, Munich, Hamburg). While I can understand that Frankfort may not have the best nightlife, too.
In a city (or small city) for nightlife and things to do – however, I could be swayed if a small city is with a 15-20 minute train ride
Need a TV that has WC on it
Reasonable rent but still generally clean

Drinking: Love beer, wine and Jack. Occasionally over-indulge.
Smoking: non-smoker but smoking doesn't bother me except perhaps in a tiny car with the windows up.
Language Skills: English (fluent), Thai (little/lek), Japanese (very little), Tamil (curse words only), German (learning)
Worse thing about you: I can get cranky when tired or hungry
Special Abilities (German contacts, travel experience, other): easy-going personality and I love to have fun and laugh (though see previous)
Next WCQ that you plan to attend: Planning on attending all WCQ in US in 2005.

Here’s an example from the "WC Travel plans" thread:
And for the record, I'm pretty normal. :) Male, 34, live in TN, married, father of two, social drinker, occasional cigar (outdoors only), postgrad, lean to the left on politics and religion (but come from conservative parents so I don't mind Repubs), night owl. And, oh yea, soccer fan. (Geeze, sounds like a singles ad -- if I were single.)

Here is more of Magpie’s preferences -
Since the Hex fixtures have been determined, I've become more serious in planning the trip to WC06. There seems to be several schools of thought on various subjects. For example:
- Apartment in one city vs. hotel rooms in various host cities;
- Train vs. car;
- SoccerTravel.com vs. self-planning;
- FIFA ticket lottery vs. USSF tickets;
- Staying the entire month vs. group/knockout only.

You get the idea. When I get the official word from my brother about his intentions, I can give it more thought, but I'm starting to lean in certain directions. One, I'll only be there for the group stage. Probably fly into Frankfurt on June 8 and leave June 25 or so. The exact dates depend upon the December 2005 draw. Two, I'll probably do most of the planning myself. SoccerTravel.com is a great resource, but I think I can handle most of the details. Three, I'll throw my hat into the February 1 FIFA ticket lottery. Might as well.

Four and five, instead of staying in a central location and shuttling between venues and an apartment, I think I'll stay in three or four cities depending upon the draw. It'll probably be a little more expensive, but I'd probably see more. I'm also concerned about the ability to grab a three-hour train back to the home base after a game. Will the schedule permit? I'll be putting plenty of tallies in the beer column, but I don't think I want to spend all night until the next morning in a bar. What am I missing logistically? I'll stick with trains, but if I do rent a car, it'll be for a single day drive outside of the town I'm in.


Here’s an example from the "WC Travel plans" thread:
I personally would NOT want to stay in Frankfurt. Sure it’s logistically preferable to some of the northern or southern cities but culturally it’s lacking far behind Munich, Berlin and even Cologne (Köln).

The longest train ride is 7 hours between Munich and Hamburg. Now I haven't done the research but I'm sure you could use Joe's spreadsheet to determine some of the round trip travel times. If you think about it, you'll spend 7 to 14 days based at a certain city of those days you'll spend worst case 3 to 5 days traveling to US games (if a game isn't scheduled in the city or a nearby location).

Point being, If I'm going to spend 60-80% of my time in one location, I'd rather do it in a more cultural destination then worrying about the extra few hours I'll spend traveling during my 25% of the time I'm in fact traveling to games.

The WC in 2005 is starting in 18 months.

littau
17 Dec 2004, 04:28 PM
Well, it's a little early to start this for me, but I'm definitely going and there's a good chance I'll be going solo. I went to Korea solo, met up with a bunch of people there, and had a blast. However, Korea (outside of Seoul) was pretty cheap. I expect that I'll need to watch costs and share expenses with others as much as possible in Germany. Coordination and collaboration will be much appreciated. A little about me. I'll post more later...

Gender: M
Age: 40
Married
Hometown: Palo Alto, CA
Occupation: R&D manager
Length of Stay: First round at least.
Will see the US games and others as convenient (just like WC2002), but I'll do it better this time with a little more experience. Sight see and watch the other games on television as time permits

Magpie Maniac
22 Dec 2004, 09:37 PM
This is a good thread idea. It'll come in handy toward the fall as plans fall into place. My brother sounds like he's definitely on board for going. (Hope it's not just talk.)

The whole Euro/dollar exchange rate is my big worry right now. Even for just the group stage, one could easily spend five grand. And I'm really going to have to give the transportation logistics some thought. If the dollar turns more into scratch paper as the year progresses, I'll go with JoeSoccerFan's idea of a flat near a train station idea. I want to have fun, drink it up, see matches, but I'm not raiding the 401K to do it.

To reiterate in a better format...
Gender: male
Age: 34 (36 during WC)
Status: married for 10 years; two kids
Hometown: Chattanooga, TN
Occupation: public administrator
Length of Stay: first round; two and a half weeks at most
Preferences: must see US group matches; additional matches if convenient; would like to have extended stays in at least three cities if dollar strengthens; else, I'll do the apartment gig in one city; also depends on my brother

beachesl
25 Dec 2004, 11:00 AM
http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3272644

There will be a chip in the tickets to ensure that the tickets have been sold legally through authourized dealers. Any agents offering packages now are bogus, brcause authourized agents are not permitted to offer or start selling until February, 2005. There have been several bogus sales also for the Confederations Cup.

The chips wil also enable the holder of the ticket to be named, and although the details have to be worked out, rumour is that you have to show identification to show that you are the purchaser/holder named on the chip. Only authourized agents will be allowed to access the chip to insert the names of the holders.

I'm sure that more details will be given once the sales start, but always remeber, caveat empour!

dberg077
25 Dec 2004, 03:31 PM
Gender: M
Age: 35
Marital status: Single
Hometown: Dallas, TX
Occupation: IT Network Analyst
Length of Stay: The first round (3 games)
Interests (while in Germany): In this order -
Attend all US games in the first round
Attend a few other games
Watch all other games on TV
Sit, drink, eat and talk with fans (and native Germans)
Visit attractions: Not overly concerned, but am willing to go do some sightseeing (remember, there will be games going on almost all the time the first two weeks)
PLACE/CITY TO STAY: I recommend Kaiserslautern. This is a bastion for US Military personnel and I lived there for over 3 years. Plenty to do. Sightseeing is easy to do from K-Town with Heidelberg, Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Koln, and many others only hours away.
Local Preference: K-Town has hotels or the good thing about K-Town is there are places to rent from landlords who speak English and you can find them in the local Military Community paper: http://www.kaiserslauternamerican.com

I'm sure we can rent a downtown apartment out for two weeks or a month if someone needs it that long--prices are probably from $500 to $ XXXX, just depends where you want to be and the size of the apartment. Plus, we are likely to find a furnished apartment there--some are, some aren't.

Feasible Sites from Kaiserslautern (K-TOWN as americans know it): I think going to Frankfurt, Stuttgart, Dortmund, Koln, Nurnberg, Gelsenkirchen will be easy to do and relatively short trips--may go up the night before and stay in a hotel if necessary. Munich is definitely an overnight stay the night before and Hannover as well along with Liepzig. Hamburg and Berlin are quite far to go, but I will do it if Team USA is playing there.

Near a train station (within 15 minute walk)--K-Town has two stops I believe and you can go anywhere.

Minimal travel to all games. I also think it’s a mistake to go to the edges of Germany (Berlin, Munich, Hamburg). Frankfurt is close enough, you can go there to party and drive back to K-Town (1 hour drive or so).
Need a TV that has WC on it
Reasonable rent but still generally clean
Drinking: Beer--I know two great Irish pubs in K-Town, also know a great area in Frankfurt for drinking. Some hard liquor usually in small amounts.
Smoking: non-smoker but will hang with smokers--just don't blow it in my face or smoke indoors.
Dining: Great restaurants---I will note that if you go to Koln (Cologne), there is an Outback Steakhouse there--it is a nice touch of home--and after a week of German food will be a welcome change. Don't forget that Italian food in Germany is just like what you would get in Northern Italy--hearty and good.
Language Skills: English (fluent), German (learning, speak a little), Spanish (Fluent)
Worse thing about you: I like to sleep in late when possible--doesn't mean I won't get up for breakfast--though the German staple of bread (that's like a rock--I forget the name) and juice usually isn't enough of an incentive.
Special Abilities (German contacts, travel experience, other): Having lived in Germany, I know it fairly well (BUT I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW IT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS BEEN THERE). I am very laid-back (Native Californian), and like to have fun--especially when I'm on vacation.
There are a few people I know who are still in K-Town and may be during the WC. I know the best French restaurant there in Kaiserslautern (CHEZ SAMY--in case you wanted to know) and keep in mind that Paris is only 5 hours away by car--if your schedule allows time for a quick trip for a day or two.
Recreation: Ramstein Air Base has a fantastic golf-course and maybe whomever I might link up with will be able to go golfing with me. I am sure I can get some kind of temporary permit to go golfing there as a Veteran and passport holder. I will look into it and update this entry in the coming weeks.
No I don't want to be only doing things American while there, but good luck trying to golf there--it will cost you a small fortune-at least Ramstein will be fairly inexpensive if I can work that with the Services folks on the base.

Next WCQ that you plan to attend: At least the one in Birmingham.

Qamle
07 Jan 2005, 05:36 PM
Gender: M
Age: 22
Marital Status: Single
Hometown: I currently live in San Diego
Interests: Watching the US games, everything else is secondary.

I drink beer, whiskey, wine, you name it.


I'm totally for the idea of sharing expenses. It'll be alot more fun too! I'm not sure if my bro is coming with me or not... most likely I'll be going solo.

I'm looking to stay as far as the US makes it.

Gunners11
18 Jan 2005, 11:40 PM
Gender: M
Age:20 (21 during WC)
Marital status: single
Hometown: Chicago
Interests: Watching any time of professional soccer match
I'll drink anything
I speak English and a little German. I have no preferences on where to say other then I'd like to see as many matches as possible. I plan on staying for the first round at least.

JoeSoccerFan
26 Mar 2005, 09:08 PM
bump - purpose to connect solo travelers in Germany

charlie15
27 Mar 2005, 10:52 AM
Age : 42
Gender: M
Marital status: Married
Hometown: Bethesda, Md
Occupation: Sales Director
Length of Stay: The second round up to the Finals (if possible)
Interests (while in Germany): In this order -
Attend as many games as possible
Attend a US game, at leasst, (hopefully, they will make it to the second round)
Watch all other games on TV)
Visit attractions: Go to Amsterdam and other places around.

JoeSoccerFan
25 Sep 2005, 11:37 AM
I am in the process of getting an apartment in Koln for the month. It's a studio with 2 single beds, kitchen, bathroom. It will cost 1300 EUR, plus 100 EUR cleaning fee. It's small and more expensive (given it's during the WC).

It's minutes from a subway (though it's on the east side of the river).

Additionally, there's a 1000 EUR deposit.

Let me know if you're interested.

Wizhawk
25 Sep 2005, 12:21 PM
Male
Almost 20
English, Spanish, German(learning)
Hometown: Overland Park, KS/ Lawrence(KU)
Occupation: I go to KU
I want to see all of the opening round US matches. I also want to travel a bit in the country.
I was going to do a tour package with a friend, but he just dropped out. So now I'm back to square one. I've been talking to some other friends, and some of them are a little interested, but I'd be in for renting a flat or whatever whether I'm with one of my friends or not.
My location preference would be somewhere in the West/Central part of the country.

goaliemanpat
28 Sep 2005, 10:57 AM
Gender: Male
Age: 21 (22 during WC)
Status: single
Hometown: Holly, MI
Occupation: Systems Administrator
Length of Stay: first round; 2-2 1/2 weeks
Preferences: Seeing all US games and maybe some others. My friend (20 female) is comming to. We have our hotel and stuff all setup through soccertravel.com but we are looking to get student rail passes and visit around 4-5 border countries on off days. If anyone would like to join us on these side trips feel free to ask.

stevewhit0
28 Sep 2005, 11:13 AM
Gender: Male
Age 21 (22 WC)
Status: Single
Hometown: Champaign, IL
Occupation: Student, University of Illinois
Lenth of Stay: First Round tickets, perhaps round of 16.
Staying in Colonge, i'm getting a eurorail pass so i'm going to hit some of the out side countries.

Wizhawk
28 Sep 2005, 12:00 PM
So for all the single travelers(and maybe especially those in my age group, 20s or so), do people want to organize some kind of group travel, or at least book a base residence and then talk about some possible side trips? Also, what's everyone doing for tickets?

And btw, stevewhit0, Bill Self owns Bruce Weber :cool:

Palermo10
28 Sep 2005, 12:59 PM
And btw, stevewhit0, Bill Self owns Bruce Weber :cool:


Thanks only to the University of Tulsa. ;)

stevewhit0
29 Sep 2005, 05:53 PM
And btw, stevewhit0, Bill Self owns Bruce Weber :cool:

In recruting yes, final fours no. I liked bill self and love weber so i wish him the best at KU.

One thing that would be nice to do is once the pairings come out some of us 20 or so year olds go in together to get a hotel room or a hostel room for the night after the night game and the night before a day game.

Wizhawk
03 Oct 2005, 02:13 AM
That'd be good.

Palermo10
03 Oct 2005, 03:09 AM
That'd be good.

If you do it in Berlin I will already have 8 for that category.

Wizhawk
03 Oct 2005, 12:00 PM
Palermo-Do you mean 8 people in their 20s? If so, that would be fun. The one problem with Berlin is that it is in a corner of the country. But I guess with good planning, a 4-6 hour train ride won't be too much of a problem. I'd be up for setting up camp in Berlin.

Palermo10
03 Oct 2005, 12:28 PM
Palermo-Do you mean 8 people in their 20s? If so, that would be fun. The one problem with Berlin is that it is in a corner of the country. But I guess with good planning, a 4-6 hour train ride won't be too much of a problem. I'd be up for setting up camp in Berlin.


Yes I do. We chose to stay there and base ourselves (16 nights). The longest train ride we would take for a match would be maybe 5 hours, but since we are going to have 14 full days, and only 3 matches... well... I wasn't complaining. Besides, a city with such history and a huge metropolitan area, I probably would have only compared it with Munich in planning. (But I am not a Germany expert)