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Johnlong
08 Dec 2004, 05:15 PM
I watched the Liverpool game tonight and this guy was just amazing,what a guy,what a goal,what a performance.

We are witnessing something truly special in this player.

musicl
08 Dec 2004, 07:03 PM
Yeah Gerrard is class. Great goal tonight as well.

SportBoy333
09 Dec 2004, 12:18 AM
He's an English player so he's going to be over rated and over hyped by the media and I for one am sick of stuff like that. He's a good player but I dont need to keep hearing how great he is all the time. Stupid Engish media/press bias.

Prenn
09 Dec 2004, 03:14 AM
He's an English player so he's going to be over rated and over hyped by the media and I for one am sick of stuff like that. He's a good player but I dont need to keep hearing how great he is all the time. Stupid Engish media/press bias.

Stop ********ing reading the English press then you muppet.

Do you complain about the hype about Thierry Henry?

balla
09 Dec 2004, 04:43 AM
Yes i do.Henry is no where as good as claimed.What does he do in the Champions League or on the international stage???

Mobile
09 Dec 2004, 04:53 AM
Yes i do.Henry is no where as good as claimed.What does he do in the Champions League

He's scored something like 35 goals in 70 games.

or on the international stage???

Apart from having won the World Cup and European Championship, bugger-all. Good point.

BSjanitor
09 Dec 2004, 05:21 AM
Dude, he's an excellent player, but no phenomenon. Let's keep in mind that he was the one with that awful back pass to the goalie in Euro 2004 vs France 4 minutes into stoppage time. He's only human. The goal was a beauty, though.

Matt Clark
09 Dec 2004, 06:55 AM
He's an English player so he's going to be over rated and over hyped by the media and I for one am sick of stuff like that. He's a good player but I dont need to keep hearing how great he is all the time. Stupid Engish media/press bias.


HAHAHA!! You know, if we ever compose a list of all-time Bigsoccer Posts Classics, this particular type of post will have to have its own category award. And in the overall Hall of Fame, it will be in the top 3. It's not just its ubiquitous nature (it's right up there with "FYP" posts in those terms) or its consequent record number of appearances, it's also the sheer inanity of it. Never in the history of human endeavour has so little been said by so many, so often. I mean, what purpose does this comment (and all it's little siblings littered across Bigsoccer today and back into the earliest past) actually have? What does it mean? Never mind that it is factually and conceptually ********ed to cock, it's also such a pointless observation.

Plus, of course, there's the whole "well if the English press makes you sick why do you still give them your business" angle, but trying to explain that one is now so utterly banal a use of one's time that it really is an unforgiveable way to spend the day.

With regard to the topic of this thread, yes he is a special player.

Mikey10
09 Dec 2004, 07:16 AM
Stevie Gerrard is a legend.

Mikey10
09 Dec 2004, 07:17 AM
Stop ********ing reading the English press then you muppet.

Do you complain about the hype about Thierry Henry?


Well said mate. I'm sick to death of certain dick heads complaining about our media constantly, and then reading all of what is said by them.

aloisius
09 Dec 2004, 07:49 AM
Great player but dirty. He likes stamping on people it seems.

Johnlong
09 Dec 2004, 08:11 AM
Lets put it this way,Gerrard is better than Zidane NOW and we all know how overhyped he was,simple as.

Merci

Red Bird
09 Dec 2004, 08:12 AM
Great player but dirty. He likes stamping on people it seems. Really? You wouldn't be basing this on one incident, would you?

Prawn Sandwich
09 Dec 2004, 08:14 AM
Really? You wouldn't be basing this on one incident, would you?
Probably not as Gerrard has done more than one two-footed tackle....

Red Bird
09 Dec 2004, 08:22 AM
Probably not as Gerrard has done more than one two-footed tackle.... And there's me thinking it had all to do with the match against Olympiacos. Ah, well at least that put him on par with most midfielders, great ones or not ...

aloisius
09 Dec 2004, 08:22 AM
Really? You wouldn't be basing this on one incident, would you?
I don’t know which particular incident you mean I’m sure there’ve been a few,
Last night when one of the Greeks won the ball in front of him he didn’t miss a chance to give it to him. He also got a yellow for attempting to drill his studs in the opponent’s thigh. He missed fortunately.

balla
09 Dec 2004, 08:26 AM
He's scored something like 35 goals in 70 games.

Apart from having won the World Cup and European Championship, bugger-all. Good point.What is the record of RvN, Makaay and Raul in the Champions League. Much better than 1 goal every 2 games.

Just because he won them, doesn't mean he was as good as he should have been. btw What was his goals record in these tournaments???

SportBoy333
09 Dec 2004, 12:41 PM
Stevie Gerrard is a legend.

He plays for England and Liverpool and I'm not a huge fan of those teams so he may be a legend to you but he means nothing to me.

Mobile
09 Dec 2004, 01:02 PM
What is the record of RvN, Makaay and Raul in the Champions League. Much better than 1 goal every 2 games.

So what? You asked what Henry has done in the Champions League and the fact is he has a bloody good scoring record. Comparisons to van Horseface and Raul are supremely irrelevant unless you're changing your question to "Who has the best strike rate in the CL?".

Just because he won them, doesn't mean he was as good as he should have been. btw What was his goals record in these tournaments???

Oh right, so the fact that he has winner's medals from the two most important and prestigious tournaments in international football don't mean a thing simply because he doesn't measure up to some subjective standard of performance that you have plucked out of your arse.

I'm sure he'll be gutted to know that you don't think he was "as good as he should have been", but again that is entirely irrelevant in light of your original (and remarkably stupid) question, which was to ask what he had ever done on the international stage.

He's won the World Cup. What more do you want?

CrisRicHeldTiago
09 Dec 2004, 01:08 PM
His performance against Olympiacos was amazing to say the least. But one game doesn't make a man. In order for a player to be referred to as a legend, he must consistently be at the top, win titles for club and country, and he doesn't quite meet either criterium. Players like Ronaldo(brazilian), Zidane, Figo, Maldini, of our present generation, are classified as legends the world over. Gerrard is obviously a gifted player, but he has a long road to go before we classify him as a legend. Special he is. Legend he is not. There are numerious special players out there: Ronaldinho, Deco, Cristiano Ronaldo, Adriano, Shevchenko, Lampard, Totti, Kaka, Ruud, Henry, Pires, Vieira...but none of these players can lay claim as legends quite yet.