Will the Old Firm go to England?

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

For me i hope so, the SPL has become so run down the big two need to get away to better themselves. While this won't happen tomorrow it should happen in 5 - 7 years, then the Scottish league can regroup and be competitive again.Celtic would do better of the two based on previous results against English clubs in Europe.

[uber_coupon]

Celtic would do better of the two based on previous results against English clubs in Europe.

What a lot of sh1te and not at all unbiased eh?

[Gordon EF]

The simple answer is.......NO.

The English don't want the OF at all and UEFA won't let it happen, where can they possibley go from there?

[Holyjoe]

What a lot of sh1te and not at all unbiased eh?

Whilst it's not indicative of how the teams would fare, he is correct to say that Celtic have the better record against English teams in European competition.

Celtic
02/03: Liverpool 1-1, 2-0
02/03: Blackpool 1-0, 2-0
97/98: Liverpool 0-0, 2-2
69/70: Leeds Utd 1-0, 2-1
83/84: Notts Forest 0-0, 1-2
65/66: Liverpool 1-0, 0-2

W: 6
D: 4
L: 2

Rangers
03/04: Man Utd 0-1, 0-3
92/93: Leeds Utd 2-1, 2-1
68/69: Newcastle 0-0, 0-2
67/68: Leeds Utd 0-0, 0-2
62/63: Tottenham 2-5, 2-3
60/61: Wolves 2-0, 1-1

W: 3
D: 3
L: 6

[uber_coupon]

Whilst it's not indicative of how the teams would fare, he is correct to say that Celtic have the better record against English teams in European competition.

Celtic
02/03: Liverpool 1-1, 2-0
02/03: Blackpool 1-0, 2-0
97/98: Liverpool 0-0, 2-2
69/70: Leeds Utd 1-0, 2-1
83/84: Notts Forest 0-0, 1-2
65/66: Liverpool 1-0, 0-2

W: 6
D: 4
L: 2

Rangers
03/04: Man Utd 0-1, 0-3
92/93: Leeds Utd 2-1, 2-1
68/69: Newcastle 0-0, 0-2
67/68: Leeds Utd 0-0, 0-2
62/63: Tottenham 2-5, 2-3
60/61: Wolves 2-0, 1-1

W: 3
D: 3
L: 6

I was not doubting his claim about Celtic's European history, just that its a lot of sh1te to use that as a comparison for success in a "League" format spread over a season. Would you like to compare both clubs histories in achieving league success?

as i stated.....

What a lot of sh1te and not at all unbiased eh?

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

What a lot of sh1te and not at all unbiased eh?

what you european record been lately pal? no to freaking good has it?
Celtic is far superior to Rangers and we both know it. while we have been taking on some of the biggest clubs in europe the last few seasons you have been playing the minnows and still getting beat (HA HA HA). Come on the Hoops.

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

The simple answer is.......NO.

The English don't want the OF at all and UEFA won't let it happen, where can they possibley go from there?


i beg to differ, i think a good number of premiership teams would love Celtic playing them in the league. the only ones not wanting celtic in there would be the small clubs that would lose the spot in the EPL. while i can't blame them for that Celtic could start in the Championship league and work their way up and that way earn it. It's not like the english league does't have another countries side playing in their leagues, Swamsea for one and Cardiff,
so why should they exclude the Scots?

[aloisius]

i. It's not like the english league does't have another countries side playing in their leagues, Swamsea for one and Cardiff,
so why should they exclude the Scots?
But the welsh sides are not allowed to qualify for Europe through the English leagues. If Celtic and Rangers were willing to give up on a chance to play in Europe, than it could be doable

[uber_coupon]

Celtic is far superior to Rangers and we both know it.

Really? What were the scores on the last 2 previous Old Firm encounters again?

Who's top of the league again?

Who's the only team in Scotland thats on for the treble?

You re only as good as your last match, in which case Sellik are on a par with, erm, dundee.

nuff said.

top of the league, joy of joys!

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

Really? What were the scores on the last 2 previous Old Firm encounters again?

Who's top of the league again?

Who's the only team in Scotland thats on for the treble?

You re only as good as your last match, in which case Sellik are on a par with, erm, dundee.

nuff said.

top of the league, joy of joys!


Lets keep the fact that the officials helped you win both games aside for the moment and your players faked injury (Banging head incident), your lot a bunch of cheats. who will win the League......Celtic.....Scottish Cup.......Celtic & which Scottish Side actually made the CL proper..........
Celtic..............like you said nuff said.

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

Really? What were the scores on the last 2 previous Old Firm encounters again?

Who's top of the league again?

Who's the only team in Scotland thats on for the treble?

You re only as good as your last match, in which case Sellik are on a par with, erm, dundee.

nuff said.

top of the league, joy of joys!

Your only good as your last match? you lost to a small Dutch team, Rangers European record continues.

[Burkies Ginger Mop]

Lets keep the fact that the officials helped you win both games aside for the moment and your players faked injury (Banging head incident), your lot a bunch of cheats. who will win the League......Celtic.....Scottish Cup.......Celtic & which Scottish Side actually made the CL proper..........
Celtic..............like you said nuff said.

Get a grip! I’m sick of reading all the paranoid pish that you lot spout! Go and get your heed examined!

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

Get a grip! I’m sick of reading all the paranoid pish that you lot spout! Go and get your heed examined!

Did your play dive when Thompson went near him? Of course he did the video
even shows there was no contact, no headbutt what so ever,which proves Rangers are a cheating dirty outfit , a label they have been living with for years and earned.

[Burkies Ginger Mop]

Did your play dive when Thompson went near him? Of course he did the video
even shows there was no contact, no headbutt what so ever,which proves Rangers are a cheating dirty outfit , a label they have been living with for years and earned.

Yawn. Boring. I suppose Celtic are innocent then. It seems they are always innocent according to you sad pathetic victims.

[Scottish_Morton]

Did your play dive when Thompson went near him? Of course he did the video
even shows there was no contact, no headbutt what so ever,which proves Rangers are a cheating dirty outfit , a label they have been living with for years and earned.

Rangers were the better team in the last 2 Old Firm's. Lovenkrands is a cheating bastard but what was the score when it happened?

Uber Coupon, You better watch what you're saying, if Celtic are only as good as their last european match they're as good as Barcelona! Does that mean Dundee are as good as Barca :S

[Gordon EF]

i beg to differ, i think a good number of premiership teams would love Celtic playing them in the league. the only ones not wanting celtic in there would be the small clubs that would lose the spot in the EPL. while i can't blame them for that Celtic could start in the Championship league and work their way up and that way earn it. It's not like the english league does't have another countries side playing in their leagues, Swamsea for one and Cardiff,
so why should they exclude the Scots?

Well that's certainly not what they've been saying. Almost all the EPL sides have said they don't care about having the OF in the league.

Also, clubs are allowed to play in foreign leagues only on historical basis, like Cardiff in England and Berwick in Scotland.

Won't happen.

[uber_coupon]

Lets keep the fact that the officials helped you win both games aside for the moment

Surely you're not serious, right? If you're on the wind up, i'll let it pass but if you're making genuine accusations regarding the scottish refereeing fraternity, then i'm afraid you'll have to elaborate on your subtle claims.

and your players faked injury (Banging head incident),

By that i assume you are refering to the Lovenkrands and Thomson clash during our league victory at Ibrox. Thomson may well have made contact with Lovenkrands, but there was no excuse for Lovenkrands behaviour when falling to the ground like a sack of totties - he's a disgrace and IMO he is not worthy to don the light blue jersey again.

your lot a bunch of cheats.

During the previous two encounters between Rangers and Celtic, there was some disgraceful underhand tactics coming from both the blue and green camps. Now I ask you, was this because of Managerial tactics to promote vicious/foul play or simply because certain players may well have been caught up by the hype of participating in one of the world's most famous derbies? We'll never really know.

With regards to the league game, Novo should have walked for his challenge on Pearson, Camara for his attack on Rae and Lennon for his innumerable fouls that he committed during the game. Kenny Clarke was very leniant on both sides - your team were capable of having the match abandoned. To put quite simply, in Glaswegian vernacular, O'Neill and his teamloast thi heid.

who will win the League......Celtic.....Scottish Cup.......Celtic

Well that remains to be seen, but to be quite honest I think Celtic may well end this season tropheyless and Pennyless, with fans once again questioning the integrity of the board in the face of the decaying and the declining stature of a once great football club.

Rangers for the league and perhaps a team from outside the old firm to clench the scottish cup. I fancy Hearts to take it, they impressed me at Ibrox last week and proved a much more formidable foe than Celtic.

which Scottish Side actually made the CL proper..........
Celtic

Indeed they did, and i hope you make the most of their time participating in said competition, because I'm fairly certain that Celtic wont be there next year.

like you said nuff said.

Thats right, I did. You're learning

[uber_coupon]

Your only good as your last match? you lost to a small Dutch team

The "small Dutch team" that you refer to are currently sitting second from top in their domestic league, on the back of a 4-1 victory against Rotterdam's most famous Football Club. They are also currently on an 11 game unbeaten run - I think to come away from that game getting beat only 1-0 is an achievement in itself.

It was a game that saw the only two clubs of form (Rangers 16 games unbeaten, Alkmaar 10 games) from a group of undesirable opposition except for Auxerre.

[nyrmetros]

So yea, what would happen to the SPL if the Old Firm plays in the EPL? Would the SPL simply implode, or could the SPL survive, and even thrive with a balanced competition that isn't stacked from the opening game?

[CdnBhoy67 redded]

Surely you're not serious, right? If you're on the wind up, i'll let it pass but if you're making genuine accusations regarding the scottish refereeing fraternity, then i'm afraid you'll have to elaborate on your subtle claims.



By that i assume you are refering to the Lovenkrands and Thomson clash during our league victory at Ibrox. Thomson may well have made contact with Lovenkrands, but there was no excuse for Lovenkrands behaviour when falling to the ground like a sack of totties - he's a disgrace and IMO he is not worthy to don the light blue jersey again.



During the previous two encounters between Rangers and Celtic, there was some disgraceful underhand tactics coming from both the blue and green camps. Now I ask you, was this because of Managerial tactics to promote vicious/foul play or simply because certain players may well have been caught up by the hype of participating in one of the world's most famous derbies? We'll never really know.

With regards to the league game, Novo should have walked for his challenge on Pearson, Camara for his attack on Rae and Lennon for his innumerable fouls that he committed during the game. Kenny Clarke was very leniant on both sides - your team were capable of having the match abandoned. To put quite simply, in Glaswegian vernacular, O'Neill and his teamloast thi heid.



Well that remains to be seen, but to be quite honest I think Celtic may well end this season tropheyless and Pennyless, with fans once again questioning the integrity of the board in the face of the decaying and the declining stature of a once great football club.

Rangers for the league and perhaps a team from outside the old firm to clench the scottish cup. I fancy Hearts to take it, they impressed me at Ibrox last week and proved a much more formidable foe than Celtic.



Indeed they did, and i hope you make the most of their time participating in said competition, because I'm fairly certain that Celtic wont be there next year.



Thats right, I did. You're learning


Celtic im sure will go on and win the league and cup double,Rangers have not
proven they can contend,not that they were ever gonna finish below 2nd anyway.Even if Rangers somehow make the CL next season they will go out in Qualifying or the first round proper their recent track record proves this.
Celtic pennyless? Were not even in the debt trouble you lot are in, in fact your in a league of you own for the worst debt in Scottish football. The Celtic support know the board are how you would say penny pinchers, alright they are down right cheap, but im positive new player will be brought it next month to ensure the title will stay at Parkhead. kenny Clarke did not have a great game, i thought Hugh Dallas would have been better, and thats
the last thing i thought i'd ever say. Celtic don't play vicious football,hard
maybe but not vicious. as for Lovenkrands no contact was made ,he should be suspended not only by the SPL, but UEFA and FIFA (they always take fair play). The referee's in Scotland have always favored Rangers and the SFA
as well,not banning Lovenkrands has me convinced of that. I would like
officials from outside the UK to do the Glasgow Derby,Collina of Italy is
capable of handling this king of all derbies.