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arthur d
20 Nov 2004, 08:51 AM
As voted by ZDF viewers. Comments? No football player in the top three, is this surprising?

1. Michael Schumacher (Formel 1)
2. Birgit Fischer (Kanu)
3. Steffi Graf (Tennis)
4. Franz Beckenbauer (Fußball)
5. Boris Becker (Tennis)
6. Max Schmeling (Boxen)
7. Jan Ullrich (Rad)
8. Franziska van Almsick (Schwimmen)
9. Gerd Müller (Fußball)
10. Oliver Kahn (Fußball)
11. Michael Ballack (Fußball)
12. Dirk Nowitzki (Basketball)
13. Rudi Völler (Fußball)
14. Stefan Krtezschmar (Handball)
15. Fritz Walter (Fussball)
16. Juergen Klinsmann (Fussball)
17. Ludger Beerbaum (Reiten)
18. Sven Hannawald (Skispringen)
19. Katharina Witt (Eiskunstlauf)
20. Erich Zabel (Rad)

More football players:
21. Uwe Seeler
27. Helmut Rahn
28. Birgit Prinz
29. Sepp Maier
47. Nia Kuenzer

PileD
21 Nov 2004, 02:25 AM
As voted by ZDF viewers. Comments? No football player in the top three, is this surprising?

1. Michael Schumacher (Formel 1)
2. Birgit Fischer (Kanu)
3. Steffi Graf (Tennis)
4. Franz Beckenbauer (Fußball)
5. Boris Becker (Tennis)
6. Max Schmeling (Boxen)
7. Jan Ullrich (Rad)
8. Franziska van Almsick (Schwimmen)
9. Gerd Müller (Fußball)
10. Oliver Kahn (Fußball)
11. Michael Ballack (Fußball)
12. Dirk Nowitzki (Basketball)
13. Rudi Völler (Fußball)
14. Stefan Krtezschmar (Handball)
15. Fritz Walter (Fussball)
16. Juergen Klinsmann (Fussball)
17. Ludger Beerbaum (Reiten)
18. Sven Hannawald (Skispringen)
19. Katharina Witt (Eiskunstlauf)
20. Erich Zabel (Rad)

More football players:
21. Uwe Seeler
27. Helmut Rahn
28. Birgit Prinz
29. Sepp Maier
47. Nia Kuenzer

They are all great, make in their sports the best they could or can do.
Difficould to pick one

Stogey23
21 Nov 2004, 02:39 AM
Where is Lothar, of the Hill People?

rivellino1
21 Nov 2004, 05:29 AM
How in the hell an effing race car driver ended up as the #1 athlete? What happened to you Germans? Can't produce an athlete without steroids?

Mattbro
21 Nov 2004, 06:03 AM
Good question. I can sit in a car for three hours every Sunday too. Where's my award?

Mattbro
21 Nov 2004, 06:04 AM
How in the hell an effing race car driver ended up as the #1 athlete? What happened to you Germans? Can't produce an athlete without steroids?

Of course they can. How about Nina Kraft who just won the Iron Man? Oh wait....

herewego
21 Nov 2004, 08:37 AM
Mathematics / Statistics is the reason.

There are 7 Footballers under the first 20. That shows how popular football is and it shows, how many footballers are big stars. But as a teamsport with 11 winners for every great success for every generation, it divides the decision of the football supporters in a public poll like this.

arthur d
21 Nov 2004, 10:58 AM
Where is Lothar, of the Hill People?

Yes, I was also surprised. Between 50th and 100th I think. The vote was also about personality apparently (err that's why Schumacher won). :rolleyes:

arthur d
21 Nov 2004, 10:59 AM
Good question. I can sit in a car for three hours every Sunday too. Where's my award?

Maybe you shoud let one of the Formula one teams know, you might miss out on a lot of money here....

arthur d
21 Nov 2004, 11:02 AM
Mathematics / Statistics is the reason.

There are 7 Footballers under the first 20. That shows how popular football is and it shows, how many footballers are big stars. But as a teamsport with 11 winners for every great success for every generation, it divides the decision of the football supporters in a public poll like this.

Good point. Still Birgit Fischer was a bit of a (positive *) surprise.

* even more positive when she was still competing for East Germany. Sorry, bad joke.

herewego
21 Nov 2004, 11:40 AM
Birgit Fischer is unique. She is obviously the most successful german athlet witht 8 Olympic Gold Medals, uncountable Worldchampionships, participation in 6 Olympic Games. Got gold at the age of 42?. So she earns to get much respect, even if her sport isn´t so mass media compatible.

And she is the last famous GDR sportster who is still active so I think she got a lot of votes from the east.

lamcam
22 Nov 2004, 06:08 PM
Is this list in present or in the past or all time? Rumenigge shoud be on the list!

Dead Fingers
22 Nov 2004, 06:19 PM
Netzer not on the list?

arthur d
22 Nov 2004, 06:19 PM
Is this list in present or in the past or all time? Rumenigge shoud be on the list!

I think he's also between 50 and 100, and so is Netzer. It's supposed to be all time best.

Dead Fingers
22 Nov 2004, 06:38 PM
I think he's also between 50 and 100, and so is Netzer. It's supposed to be all time best.

Thanks arthur

jonam
22 Nov 2004, 06:45 PM
Netzer is exactly Number 100. Here are the top 100 picks:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/download/0,1896,2001754,00.pdf

arthur d
22 Nov 2004, 06:52 PM
Netzer is exactly Number 100. Here are the top 100 picks:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/download/0,1896,2001754,00.pdf

Thanks, I only saw the first 50. Sparwasser before Netzer? Bloody Ossis!

arthur d
22 Nov 2004, 06:55 PM
Netzer is exactly Number 100. Here are the top 100 picks:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/download/0,1896,2001754,00.pdf

Where is Rummenigge? I thought he was in there as well, but I seem to have gone blind.

Ah well, that's democracy for you. Like we saw when the Dutch voted Pim Fortuijn, a right wing politician, 2nd greatest Dutch person ever, in front of Erasmus, Rembrandt etc.

Dead Fingers
22 Nov 2004, 07:14 PM
Where is Rummenigge? I thought he was in there as well, but I seem to have gone blind.

Ah well, that's democracy for you. Like we saw when the Dutch voted Pim Fortuijn, a right wing politician, 2nd greatest Dutch person ever, in front of Erasmus, Rembrandt etc.

People have no concept of "historical context" do they?

Dead Fingers
22 Nov 2004, 07:18 PM
Netzer is exactly Number 100. Here are the top 100 picks:

http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/download/0,1896,2001754,00.pdf

I am off the mark here in saying that Lothar Mattheus should be ranked a little bit higher (disregarding his personality :eek: )

Now there is a list for you --The top Worst (German) Football Personalities of all time. Add your suggestions ;)