Aquiring a grey market dish...

[DCU1996]

Can somebody provide info about grey market dish - what it is, how it works, and how and where to get it?

What kind of soccer matches I can watch from it?

Thanks.

[jammybastard]

now why would someone answer a question like this in a public forum?
You want "greay market" gear, go where those people gather.

FWIW - Dish network is fooking cheap. You should buck it up and BUY one instead of ripping them off. If you've got time to post here you're obviously not on welfare. :mad:

[billf]

I think he's referring to getting a Canadian or Mexican DBS instead of DirecTV or DishNet not stealing the signal. If you do want to steal DirecTV's signal, the new card has not been cracked so it would be impossible right now and risky if successful because they are really going after pirates from what I've read. To get a Canadian system, there are websites that will set you up with a Canadian address and get you the equipment so you can be auto billed each month. Just look for them. I think its easier for you to get many games this way and some say more soccer is available overall. You'd lose networks you might enjoy now like ESPN though.

[denver_mugwamp]

Buying a satellite decoder (noth the dish) from the grey market is a great idea if you live in Central America or the Caribbean where US copyright laws are usually ignored and there's no enforcement. However, the dish companies have been pretty active lately with tracking down people selling/buying that stuff in the US and suing them for damages. My advice is to stick to the straight and narrow.

[rangers00]

Buying a satellite decoder (noth the dish) from the grey market is a great idea if you live in Central America or the Caribbean where US copyright laws are usually ignored and there's no enforcement. However, the dish companies have been pretty active lately with tracking down people selling/buying that stuff in the US and suing them for damages. My advice is to stick to the straight and narrow.

Get yourself informed.

The US dish companies have been pretty active lately for tracking down people pirating DirecTV and Dish Network signals, which has nothing to do with this thread.

This thread is about subscribing to Canadian or Mexican service, which is NOT against the law in the U.S. There is no federal law or FCC regulation that prohibits American citizens from subbing foreign service. There have been attempts to contact FCC to clarify on this issue, but the FCC representative had no clue about this matter (of subbing foreign services). Of course, how many Americans know about BEV or Sky Mexico? Most of them are ignorant enough to think that the DirecTV and Echostar birds are all the birds in the sky.

The only catch is that the foreign services are not supposed to sell to American customers. That's why you need a Canadian/Mexican address to subscribe to Canadian/Mexican DBS. If the Canadian/Mexican services ***knowingly*** sell to American customers, they'll be sued by the American copyright holders.

[rangers00]

If you want European soccer, Canadian or Mexican services used to be the better choices. For example, Canada DBS has TLN that covers 4 Serie A games per week, plus 3 CL games per week. Premiership is on a regular channel (Rogers SportsNet or Fox Sports World Canada) instead of on PPV.

Mexican DBS was a much better choice for CL - 8 games per match day. 3-4 years ago, they even had 10 games per match day. Every game of la Liga was available, either on DirecTV Latin America's la Liga package (much like NFL Sunday ticket), or on ESPN Latin America.

Not any more.

Nowadays, with GolTV and ESPN Deportes the advantage of foreign DBS is shrinking. If you know how to BT, all the advantages of foreign DBS is gone.

[GutBomb]

If you want European soccer, Canadian or Mexican services used to be the better choices. For example, Canada DBS has TLN that covers 4 Serie A games per week, plus 3 CL games per week. Premiership is on a regular channel (Rogers SportsNet or Fox Sports World Canada) instead of on PPV.

Mexican DBS was a much better choice for CL - 8 games per match day. 3-4 years ago, they even had 10 games per match day. Every game of la Liga was available, either on DirecTV Latin America's la Liga package (much like NFL Sunday ticket), or on ESPN Latin America.

Not any more.

Nowadays, with GolTV and ESPN Deportes the advantage of foreign DBS is shrinking. If you know how to BT, all the advantages of foreign DBS is gone.
except that ESPN Deportes is not available on ANY satellite service.

There are address brokers in canada that can help you subscribe to Bell ExpressVu, a canadian service that has TLN, TSN, SportsNet, and Fox Sports World Canada. With all of those you usually get 4 CL games per matchday, 2 german games a week, 4 english games a week, 1 argentine, 1 brazilian, 2 MLS, 2 french, 2 spanish, all the canadian national team games, and 2 italian games a week. those are all without getting ppv. they usually also have 2 english games on PPV as well.

I have found you can get EVERYTHING I mentioned above with dish network except the 3 additional CL games per matchday. everything else is available on Fox Sports World and GolTV