Football Manager, Part I

[The Potter]

Dont buy it. Any game from SI will ruin your life

[Hanjin]

Already too late FM 2005 is already ruining my life friend bought me a copy when he got back today from europe and man it is damn addictive just started a career with Wolve's currently sitting in 8th position on the table with 3 wins 2 draws and 2 loses.

[subbuteo]

better or worse than CM?
I mean....this whole change thing....is it good or bad in your opinion?

[kevruth]

I just read this review by PC Gamer magazine. They really liked it and said the match engine is vastly improved. They scored it a 90% rating.

http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/reviews/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=32558&subsectionid=1609

Mine was shipped Tuesday night. I should see it next week.

[Hanjin]

Better than CM and FM is still the same as CM just different name more features heres a screenshot i took:
http://img102.exs.cx/img102/6488/FM2005Wolves.jpg

[Hanjin]

Its still made by the delevopers that made CM series a great game only with new partners sega since they departed with Eidos as now Eidos own the rights to the name Championship manager.

[GeordieInExile]

Know the Score. SI Games (http://www.sigames.com).

[forumrules]

Dont buy it. Any game from SI will ruin your life

too late

[Danks81]

I learned the hard way how addicting Championship Manager can be. I'm not touching it again until 2040 when my son is the best player in the game.

[Hecho en Mexico]

i just played my first game with as roma and man does it run smooth on my pc.

i know its quite a big team but i want to get the 'hang of it' first.

:D

[Bonji]

I'm waiting for it to be released as MLS Manager in the US.

[kevruth]

I'm waiting for it to be released as MLS Manager in the US.
Just to let you know that name of the game for North American distribution will be "World Soccer Manager" and not MLS Manager.

[Bonji]

Just to let you know that name of the game for North American distribution will be "World Soccer Manager" and not MLS Manager.
When did that change? Originally it was supposed to be MLS Manager.

[subbuteo]

so can you not manage in MLS in Football Manager?

Also, any league restrictions we should be worried about from the north american release or the only difference will be in the name of the game and the phrasing of some of the interaction?

[Bonji]

so can you not manage in MLS in Football Manager?

Also, any league restrictions we should be worried about from the north american release or the only difference will be in the name of the game and the phrasing of some of the interaction?
Not sure on the first part. Need to ask someone who has the game running already. In the last few versions there have been issues between the game and MLS. I hope it is in all versions with SLC and Chivas starting up in 2005.

[kevruth]

When did that change? Originally it was supposed to be MLS Manager.
Not sure when it happened but the reason is that MLS is such a small part of the game. I believe that the game includes leagues from 41 different countries not to mention the ability to manage at least a hundred different national teams who's countries leagues are not represented like Jamaica.

[Bonji]

Not sure when it happened but the reason is that MLS is such a small part of the game. I believe that the game includes leagues from 41 different countries not to mention the ability to manage at least a hundred different national teams who's countries leagues are not represented like Jamaica.
I agree it is a good change, I just hadn't heard of it.

[kevruth]

Not sure on the first part. Need to ask someone who has the game running already. In the last few versions there have been issues between the game and MLS. I hope it is in all versions with SLC and Chivas starting up in 2005.
MLS is in the game. In fact the MLS logo appears upon start up of the game (and I have the UK version) along with some other copywrite logos and team names like AC Milan, etc.

I do know for a fact that expansion is not included so Real Salt Lake and Chivas USA will not appear. You seen that with the last version of CM that came out knowing full well that Serie A was expanding to 24 teams for this year. They didn't include that expansion.

I have read a long thread on the SI forums from a bunch of disgruntled MLS supporters who gave a long list of problems they had with FM because of things like the Super Draft, player reallocations, Project 40, etc. One guy even complained that all away clubs should be wearing white (which as a Crew fan knows that Columbus doesn't have a white kit, only black or yellow).

Coding MLS is too difficult because of the single entity concept, the league's control of players being bought and sold and the league's determining what level of player can be allocated to a club. Managers don't make those decisions. It is out of there hands.

I know that SI were trying to work closely with MLS. Maybe the league wasn't too helpful at getting those things coded. I don't know.

[stattosoftware]

Have you tried to play MLS in FM, kevruth? Are those problems there if you have?

[prk166]

MLS is in the game. In fact the MLS logo appears upon start up of the game (and I have the UK version) along with some other copywrite logos and team names like AC Milan, etc.

I do know for a fact that expansion is not included so Real Salt Lake and Chivas USA will not appear. You seen that with the last version of CM that came out knowing full well that Serie A was expanding to 24 teams for this year. They didn't include that expansion.

I have read a long thread on the SI forums from a bunch of disgruntled MLS supporters who gave a long list of problems they had with FM because of things like the Super Draft, player reallocations, Project 40, etc. One guy even complained that all away clubs should be wearing white (which as a Crew fan knows that Columbus doesn't have a white kit, only black or yellow).

Coding MLS is too difficult because of the single entity concept, the league's control of players being bought and sold and the league's determining what level of player can be allocated to a club. Managers don't make those decisions. It is out of there hands.

I know that SI were trying to work closely with MLS. Maybe the league wasn't too helpful at getting those things coded. I don't know.

You deserve some Rep!

I agree. Some of those comments are, well, frustrating. Someday when there are enough yanks buying the game to pay for taking into account those things, great. But until then I don't see how it's worth it for SI to set up the game for the single entinty thing. On top of that, most all of the MLS fans I know COMPLAIN ABOUT SINGLE ENTITY. So the game gives them a chance to play out the games as though it didn't exist!