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BillQ
13 Dec 2004, 03:12 PM
SI Games has the first patch for FM05 up and running. I think this will fix the crashing problem. I just got my copy in the mail today so have to make sure to d/l it before I start playing and ripping Nick S. throughout the match.

TheImposter
17 Dec 2004, 07:00 PM
I just read back through this thread, and I'm amazed at all the reports of crashes. I have FM2005 and have been playing it for around a month, with no crashes at all. I'm in December of 2009 with Nottingham Forest. My board has given me $30 mil for transfers, but it's useless because they won't give me a big enough wage budget to sign good players. I was allowed $850k per week last year, and signed Donovan on a free, then bought VanPersie, finished 6th in the premiership and am in the UEFA (EURO) cup. This year I suck -- lower half of the table, scoring about 1 goal a game in the league, nobody playing that badly, just can't get over the hump. However, I'm undefeated in Europe, and in the semis of the League Cup, just can't cut it in the league. This is all in a game I started with MK Dons and a $2,000 transfer budget (yes, that's 2 thousand dollars).

Anybody got any good tactics or motivational strategies when good players aren't scoring goals?

ERIMUS
21 Dec 2004, 01:57 PM
Got the game today, started with Bradford Park Avenue in the Conference North Division. Work my way up!

SoftTackle
22 Dec 2004, 08:18 AM
I started with Grays Athletic in Conference South, which I'm finding fairly challenging. Mid-table into December without the horses for promotion, I think.

Charge!
22 Dec 2004, 06:38 PM
The 5.02 patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager is now available (http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=237) . Same fixes, I presume as the UK version.

Click this -> http://soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115405 for a full explanation of what the 5.02 patch entails, which is one hell of a lot of stuff. :eek:

astabooty
22 Dec 2004, 06:50 PM
i didnt know there was even a problem with crashes. mine has never crashed.

i got tired and disappointed with myself for using good teams at 1st like ajax, so i just started a new game.

i am go ahead eagles of the 2nd dutch division. compared to some of those english conference teams i guess they are good, but they are one of the lowest teams i have managed before and im proud of myself for that.

with no transfers and no downloaded tactics i finished 4th in the league. i was supposed to invest in new players and start over, so the board and fans were delighted. i could have had 3rd, but i was already guaranteed to be in a certain playoff group so i rested my players the last couple of games.

in the playoffs i lost my 1st two games to the 3rd place team (heracles i think) and a 1st division team (nac breda) so i just went on holiday as i knew i would not get promoted.

my transfer budget stayed at 35k and i spent it all on an aging venezuelan dm. his stats are very good. in the off season i picked up a young dutch #10 who could challenge for a starting spot; a young and a veteran rb as one starter was 36 and i got rid of him and the backup sucked; got one good lb who i think could take the starting spot; i finally picked up some rm's as my old ones were terrible, averaging a 4-5 per game; and two good forwards.

no one special, but i am confident i will reach the playoffs once again and hopefully get the promotion. i am expected to finish mid table.

Cannon
22 Dec 2004, 06:50 PM
The 5.02 patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager is now available (http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=237) . Same fixes, I presume as the UK version.

Click this -> http://soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115405 for a full explanation of what the 5.02 patch entails, which is one hell of a lot of stuff. :eek:

You might want to keep a seperate copy of any saved game you really want to continue playing. I was fine with the release version (no killer bugs just tons of annoying ones) but after I installed the patch I couldn't get past the preseason without a crash to the desktop. Sent SI my saved game and haven't heard back so I was forced to reinstall the release version (after doing some registry cleanout since the uninstaller leaves some junk behind). I'm just hoping the next patch (or five) sorts this out. Now I remember why I didn't get CM4 until the fifth patch. :mad:

Charge!
22 Dec 2004, 06:56 PM
You might want to keep a seperate copy of any saved game you really want to continue playing. I was fine with the release version (no killer bugs just tons of annoying ones) but after I installed the patch I couldn't get past the preseason without a crash to the desktop. Sent SI my saved game and haven't heard back so I was forced to reinstall the release version (after doing some registry cleanout since the uninstaller leaves some junk behind). I'm just hoping the next patch (or five) sorts this out. Now I remember why I didn't get CM4 until the fifth patch. :mad:
I didn't play the game yet, so I downloaded WWSM 5.02, so I don't have a problem with saved game compatibility. I'm wondering how this will impact those who use MLS as their league.

A bonus; on the actual CD, it has the most recent version of NHL Eastside Hockey Manager (1.07), and you can play the demo for 6 months of an actual season. Then you need to either decide it's not for you, or pay $40 through SoftWrap.

Cannon
22 Dec 2004, 07:08 PM
i am go ahead eagles of the 2nd dutch division. compared to some of those english conference teams i guess they are good, but they are one of the lowest teams i have managed before and im proud of myself for that.

You'd probably like Haarlem. I'm playing as them in that division and they are a serious challenge. Tiny stadium, below average players who are already over the wage budget when you start, and poor coaching staff (with 5 physios on the budget??). The only advantage to Haarlem is that the board and fans understand that the team is horrible so they just expect you to rebuild (and cut the budget).

I'm using LLama rules for the first time so it has been interesting. I've brought in a squad full of loans (elderly never beens and no-hope kids with a potential star or two for good measure) that are helping. I'm trying to get one of the period slots into the playoffs. Just beat the Go Ahead Eagles (they took the first slot easily) so all is well.

astabooty
22 Dec 2004, 07:16 PM
You'd probably like Haarlem. I'm playing as them in that division and they are a serious challenge. Tiny stadium, below average players who are already over the wage budget when you start, and poor coaching staff (with 5 physios on the budget??). The only advantage to Haarlem is that the board and fans understand that the team is horrible so they just expect you to rebuild (and cut the budget).

I'm using LLama rules for the first time so it has been interesting. I've brought in a squad full of loans (elderly never beens and no-hope kids with a potential star or two for good measure) that are helping. I'm trying to get one of the period slots into the playoffs. Just beat the Go Ahead Eagles (they took the first slot easily) so all is well.

thanks for the advice.
i wanna take go ahead up and get them into europe before i leave the club.
it sucks that in your game go ahead took 1st, makes me feel like i didnt do much :(

Cannon
22 Dec 2004, 07:42 PM
thanks for the advice.
i wanna take go ahead up and get them into europe before i leave the club.
it sucks that in your game go ahead took 1st, makes me feel like i didnt do much :(

They took the first period slot for the playoffs but have slowly fallen down the overall league table since then (mainly due to unhappy players wanting to move to bigger clubs and a few strange losses such as my victory over them) so if you finished overall high enough to be in the playoffs, I'd say you did well.

I'm just a little envious of them and the other higher ranked clubs since they seem to have a few players who can score. I got stuck with a slow, injury prone striker who is good when he gets the ball (except pks which he always has saved) but is too slow and weak to get it very often and a kid who gets the ball a lot but has maybe one shot on target every couple of games. I've been competitive since I found one good striker for free (but I had to sell my highest value player to afford his wage) and another kid as depth but scoring goals is a huge problem whenever the free transfer guy is out.

Good luck getting the Eagles up. I'm actually glad I probably won't make it in the first season since my one encounter with a top club in the cup only showed how hapless my guys are.

Do you use LLama rules? I think they add a lot to the fun of taking a lower level club since you can't just go out and scout brazil to stock your club which can make the dutch leages too easy.

astabooty
23 Dec 2004, 03:07 PM
Do you use LLama rules? I think they add a lot to the fun of taking a lower level club since you can't just go out and scout brazil to stock your club which can make the dutch leages too easy.

LLama rules means you cant get brazilians?

i didnt know that.

if so, then i have played by them so far. i found out NO ONE would sign for me, so i didnt even send out scouts.

afgrijselijkheid
23 Dec 2004, 03:54 PM
i didnt know there was even a problem with crashes. mine has never crashed.

i got tired and disappointed with myself for using good teams at 1st like ajax, so i just started a new game.

i am go ahead eagles of the 2nd dutch division. compared to some of those english conference teams i guess they are good, but they are one of the lowest teams i have managed before and im proud of myself for that.

with no transfers and no downloaded tactics i finished 4th in the league. i was supposed to invest in new players and start over, so the board and fans were delighted. i could have had 3rd, but i was already guaranteed to be in a certain playoff group so i rested my players the last couple of games.

in the playoffs i lost my 1st two games to the 3rd place team (heracles i think) and a 1st division team (nac breda) so i just went on holiday as i knew i would not get promoted.

my transfer budget stayed at 35k and i spent it all on an aging venezuelan dm. his stats are very good. in the off season i picked up a young dutch #10 who could challenge for a starting spot; a young and a veteran rb as one starter was 36 and i got rid of him and the backup sucked; got one good lb who i think could take the starting spot; i finally picked up some rm's as my old ones were terrible, averaging a 4-5 per game; and two good forwards.

no one special, but i am confident i will reach the playoffs once again and hopefully get the promotion. i am expected to finish mid table.


ever since i missed promotion with preston on freakin' penalties, i haven't gone back to a lower level game... but now i think im ready to lead st pauli or osnabruck to prominence

astabooty
23 Dec 2004, 03:59 PM
ever since i missed promotion with preston on freakin' penalties, i haven't gone back to a lower level game... but now i think im ready to lead st pauli or osnabruck to prominence

st pauli is germany right?

what division?

afgrijselijkheid
23 Dec 2004, 03:59 PM
st pauli is germany right?

what division?


regionaliga nord

Theo
23 Dec 2004, 04:22 PM
The 5.02 patch for Worldwide Soccer Manager is now available (http://www.sigames.com/downloads.php?type=view&id=237) . Same fixes, I presume as the UK version.

Click this -> http://soccergaming.tv/showthread.php?s=&threadid=115405 for a full explanation of what the 5.02 patch entails, which is one hell of a lot of stuff. :eek:

This is probably a dumb question, but is there a 5.01 patch? Or does the 5.02 patch encompass all of the chanages so far?

Also - i'm going to be receiving WWSM soon for Christmas. should i first install the game, and then the 5.02 patch? or the other way around?

Bonji
23 Dec 2004, 04:23 PM
This is probably a dumb question, but is there a 5.01 patch? Or does the 5.02 patch encompass all of the chanages so far?

Also - i'm going to be receiving WWSM soon for Christmas. should i first install the game, and then the 5.02 patch? or the other way around?
SI Games patches typically include everything up to the current patch. So if there is a 5.01 then 5.02 will include it. Install the game and then install the patch. The other way around will not work.

Bonji
23 Dec 2004, 04:24 PM
LLama rules means you cant get brazilians?

i didnt know that.

if so, then i have played by them so far. i found out NO ONE would sign for me, so i didnt even send out scouts.
What are LLama rules?

Theo
23 Dec 2004, 04:27 PM
SI Games patches typically include everything up to the current patch. So if there is a 5.01 then 5.02 will include it. Install the game and then install the patch. The other way around will not work.


thanks mate, i'll hopefully soon be playing the game for the first time and finding out what so many people are crazy about, haha.

TheImposter
23 Dec 2004, 05:54 PM
Has anybody seen this, and what did you do about it?

I'm about to get sacked, I fear -- just got the dreaded "Despite continued supporter unrest...." vote of confidence. I'm in December 2010, managing Nottingham Forest. Started the game with MK Dons, took the job at Forest in the middle of the 2005-6 when they were in the lower third of the championship/div 1. Finished that season, signed a couple of guys on free transfers over the summer, and ran away with the league the next year. First year in the prem managed 12th, I think, and then finished 6th 2 years in a row, making the EURO cup. First year in Europe won my group, but went out in the first elimination round. Doing fine so far the second year. Was in both domestic cup finals last year, but couldn't win either. Currently sitting 12th, admittedly underperforming, but have been improving over the last 10 matches or so.

Here's what's weird. When I took the job the board was very concerned about the size of the wage bill, and wanted me to do something about it. Two years ago they suddenly increased the wage bill by quite a lot, at least doubling it, I think, in the middle of the season. Understandable, except for the timing, as we were playing at a higher level and bringing in more revenue. I went that season consistently about 200K under the wage budget, which was at 850K per week. Got excited over the summer when they increased my transfer budget exponentially, but then found that they had suddenly reduced the wage budget to 700K, and I couldn't attract anyone to the club at the wages I was authorized to offer. Then, right at the end of the January window they suddenly, and without telling me (I just happened to notice when I offered somebody a new contract) took the wage budget to 1.5 mil per week! I thought, hey great, I can do some real business over the summer, and I did sign one great player right at the end of that transfer window. As the season wound down I set about making some good pickups on Bosmans, and got all excited about the buys I could make during the summer. But when they announced the transfer budget, which was again extravagant, they also cut the wage budget nearly in half again, so I am now 200K per week above and they want it reduced.

Is this just a board that's not as ambitious as I am? Are they toying with me? Is it a bug? Anybody had anything similar happen as they climb the ladder toward the upper levels? I'll certainly get a top half finish, with a good chance at Europe again (If I can keep the job), but definitely won't challenge the leaders with the wages available to me.