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DutchFootballRulez
19 May 2005, 12:58 PM
... you and the 3 other women who actually tried the game ... ;) :D
There are others!? :eek:
ibreak4coffee
19 May 2005, 12:59 PM
My girlfriend thinks Football Manager looks like the stupidest game ever made... she makes fun of me that I spend hours "watching dots move around the screen". My explanations about tactical nuances, the fun of searching for new players, and the glorious Cup runs fall on deaf ears... Accordingly, I am more than amazed to hear that a girl is a regular player of FM. I have never encountered this. I commend you diplomatique :)
Bonji
19 May 2005, 01:05 PM
My girlfriend thinks Football Manager looks like the stupidest game ever made... she makes fun of me that I spend hours "watching dots move around the screen". My explanations about tactical nuances, the fun of searching for new players, and the glorious Cup runs fall on deaf ears... Accordingly, I am more than amazed to hear that a girl is a regular player of FM. I have never encountered this. I commend you diplomatique :)
All of my friends say the same things. One friend calls it "Unix Soccer." :)
JohnR
19 May 2005, 01:09 PM
My girlfriend thinks Football Manager looks like the stupidest game ever made...
My wife says "Are you still whacking off watching your little men?" :(
DutchFootballRulez
19 May 2005, 01:49 PM
All of my friends say the same things. One friend calls it "Unix Soccer." :)
My fiance always complains about "DOT Soccer" too.
ibreak4coffee
19 May 2005, 01:57 PM
My fiance always complains about "DOT Soccer" too.
This thread is starting to sound like a support group! :)
sitati_kituyi
19 May 2005, 01:59 PM
Cannon, I have proved myself!
I am playing as Southampton, and have qualified for the Champions League as runners up in only my second season! What's more, Liverpool only beat me to the title by 2 points, and Arsenal in 3rd were 9 points behind! My only signings were vanden Borre, Smertin and Veron. AND I'M USING MY VERY OWN TACTIC! Crouch is a god. It's very, very satisfying :)
Cannon
19 May 2005, 03:10 PM
Cannon, I have proved myself!
I am playing as Southampton, and have qualified for the Champions League as runners up in only my second season! What's more, Liverpool only beat me to the title by 2 points, and Arsenal in 3rd were 9 points behind! My only signings were vanden Borre, Smertin and Veron. AND I'M USING MY VERY OWN TACTIC! Crouch is a god. It's very, very satisfying :)
Good for you. I'm glad you're having fun. Sorry I was a bit harsh in the past. Combo of pet peeve and bad timing but you got admit that its more fun winning on your own.
However, I hope your Saints go down in flames...finishing ahead of Arsenal? The nerve! ;) :D
diplomatique
20 May 2005, 01:30 AM
Boys, boys, boys. Settle down. Bonji, are you staking your claim? ;) Thanks for making me laugh guys, I enjoyed it. :)
If I knew a football game was the way to a man's heart, I would have tried it earlier. I'm starting to get more into it, and I am sorry to admit that I had trouble getting to bed last night because I couldn't stop planning my FM game plan. I still think it's weird seeing "Mr." . . . but I'll deal with it,
Although my gender and nationality makes me an anomaly, I'm just about the most typical fan otherwise. Being a football fan is something I take great pride in . . . and a whole lot of flack. I made some of my female friends watch Euro 2004 with me, and they enjoyed starting at the men, but they tried (without success) to get me to stop talking tactics and telling Sven to substitute, and yelling at the ref. My male (American) friends try to claim it's a "girly" game. So I know where you're coming from. Sorry your ladies aren't accomodating when it comes to footie. If it make any of you feel better, I think the game is kick ass.
HalfManHalfAmazing
20 May 2005, 03:55 AM
FM is manly, Soccer is girly, that's fine though. I guess in a world without the NBA, and the NFL that Soccer players might not seem TOO faggy.
So where in Colorado are you from fellow BSer?
diplomatique
20 May 2005, 04:46 AM
FM is manly, Soccer is girly, that's fine though. I guess in a world without the NBA, and the NFL that Soccer players might not seem TOO faggy.
So where in Colorado are you from fellow BSer?
Well, fellow Coloradoan. I'm from Aurora-ish. Unincorporated Arapahoe County to be specific. Is the Denver on your profile actually Denver, or "Denver" in that sense of what I tell tourists when they ask where I am from?
Football is massively macho. Although David Beckham's "fashion sense" (ugh) and the recent half-naked Calvin Klein shots of Freddie Ljunberg (not that I'm complaining . . ) make it a wee bit harder to defend my stance on the whole macho issue. Especially against my rugby-playing-Air-Force-Cadet-friend.
I have to mention the whole "watching dots move" thing. It totally threw me off at first. Especially since I didn't know what they hell colour Sunderland was supposed to be. I just sat through the first game going, "maybe if I leave the room the game will end by the time I get back . . . and Sunderland will manage a win".
Bonji
20 May 2005, 10:26 AM
From my Denver Highlands bungalow this morning Liverpool couldn't manage to win any hardware. I lost in the UEFA Cup semi's to Chelski. I lost in the FA Cup semi's to Birmingham. The Premier League came down to the final day. Chelsea had 72 points and I had 71. I had Sunderland at home and Chelsea had Birmingham at home. A Chelsea loss or draw would open the door to my championship. However it was not to be, Sunderland was fighting to stay up and tied me late in the match and Chelsea won 3-0 against a Birmingham side compfortably in the middle of the table with nothing to fight for.
So I start another off season. I'm coming up on the 09/10 season. This summer I have to finish South American WC Qualification with Argentina. I'm safely in the number two position behind Brasil. I can't wait for the 2010 WC next summer. I want to bring the cup back to Argentina and I think I can with a squad based around English player of the year Pablo Amir, Spanish striker of the year Saviola and solid goal keeper Leo Franco. I've been winning my qualification games 3-0, 4-0, 2-0. Argentina is feeling compfortable.
This off season at Liverpool I don't have a lot of changes to make. I am going to look for a young up and coming defender to use as a sub and develop for the future. I'm also going to look for a similar attacking midfielder. The formation I use is an attacking 4-2-3-1 so I am very deep at striker with Owen, Cisse and Spanish wonderkid Fernandez. At attacking mid I have a lot of talent but they tired out towards the end of the season and a couple of small injuries left me a little exposed. My regular starters include Xisco, Donovan and Thompson. Halbi comes in for Donovan. Luis Garcia can be used in any of the attacking midfield roles. I need one more super sub to keep things tight up top. On the defensive side of midfield I'm using Parker and Gerard. Parker has an amazing long shot and scored some wicked goals this season. I also have Blasi to play in there. A young defensive midfielder wouldn't hurt I suppose. On defense I have Riise, and three others I can never remember. In goal Paul Robinson was very solid, giving me the best goals against in the Premier League at 30.
Next season I should be able to lift the Premier League title. This season I had a lot of draws, 12. I need to convert those to wins and things will be easy. I'm looking forward to the challenge. I'll also be back in the Champions League after a year off since I left Barca. I'm looking forward to the cash windfall that provides.
Xisco was my best purchase at Liverpool. He came from Mallorca at the January transfer window for $22,000,000 and was worth every penny. In the second half of the season he averaged 8.45 earning MOM honors 5 times. I also bought a German right full back in January who performed very well, averaging 8.00 in the second half of the season.
subbuteo
20 May 2005, 01:36 PM
I hope Tevez is in the Argentina fold. Kid has been amazing, albeit injured at the moment, for me in his first year with Chelsea.
Bonji
20 May 2005, 01:57 PM
I hope Tevez is in the Argentina fold. Kid has been amazing, albeit injured at the moment, for me in his first year with Chelsea.
He is although his play on the national team has not been top notch. He is more of a role player for me at this point.
JohnR
20 May 2005, 03:11 PM
Football is massively macho.
You should try rugby.
Talked to a friend yesterday. An Irish guy who played semi-professional rugby in New Zealand one year. He swore up & down that one of his teammates trained by running up hills while holding a (small) sheep under each arm.
He also said that he once punched this teammate in the chest hard, with a closed fist, and got no reaction except for a sore fist. And my friend is about 6' tall, strongly built, a thick neck, the usual rugby build. I said, "I gather that those guys were tougher than Irish soccer players?" He laughed. He said, "I thought Irishmen were tough until I went to New Zealand. Roy Keane would crap his pants."
OK, digression over.
sitati_kituyi
20 May 2005, 03:30 PM
Good for you. I'm glad you're having fun. Sorry I was a bit harsh in the past. Combo of pet peeve and bad timing but you got admit that its more fun winning on your own.
It's all good, you did rep me and I challenged myself to proove my competence, so good came out of it :)
And yep, it's fantastic winning on your own! I think that's the only thing we'll be agreeing about in the next 24 hours, you being an Arse fan and all :D .
HalfManHalfAmazing
21 May 2005, 06:01 PM
The best advice in FM is to win on your own. It's absolutely NO fun winning things with someone elses advice on players, tactics, training, etc. I am coaching my 4th team in this current game of FM and I FINALLY have a winning team. I never deviate from my standard tactics, I just needed to find players that responded to my French style of play!
sitati_kituyi
22 May 2005, 11:52 AM
Each time I play the game I sign Vanden Borre and Kallstrom. I splash out for Schweinsteiger too whenever the kitty allows it. Eventually each club I manage ends up looking like the last!
And whenever I start the game, Everton sign Dagoberto and Liverpool sign Van der Meyde.
sitati_kituyi
22 May 2005, 11:57 AM
Does anyone else have some strange habit or superstition that's developed over the hours-upon-hours that they dedicate to this game? I always put the mouse pointer in the half of the pitch that my team is attacking. Call me crazy, but it makes me more comfortable to watch the big games.
DutchFootballRulez
22 May 2005, 11:07 PM
I don't do anything weird with the mouse. But, I don't start players who just joined the team. I believe in that 'hidden gel' factor. As well as Seniority. I also realize that I'm overstocked in the striker position. Eto'o, Maxi Lopez, Alejandro Fernandez, Pazzini, and David Villa. My midfield is also stocked, Ronnie, D'Alessandro, Van Bommel, Xabi Alonso, and of course, Deco, Xavi, and Mascherano. I'm selling Belleti, Larsson, and have already sold Giuly.
I think player-to-player interaction and relationships still must be improved. If I look up Rio and Anton Ferdinand, Vincent and Francois Kompany, and of course the Nevilles, they should be on the Favourite Personnel list. And when I sign them to my club, I don't want any weird happiness results, they should generally train together; and unsettlement issues shouldn't be an issue for one and not the other. They should live together until the right age.
Enough ranting from me.