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rocoto
22 Dec 2004, 10:09 PM
what a performance by r jefferson tonite vs lebaron james and the cavs...
NonStop4
23 Dec 2004, 05:05 AM
what a performance by r jefferson tonite vs lebaron james and the cavs...
Indeed :)
Lebron James always struggled against Nets and Jefferson did tremendous job, now Nets are 5-4(I think) since Kidd return from injury.(Pretty good)
Now with Vince coming back next game I think and another player we are going to sign soon (looks like Keon Clark), I can see us in playoff no time :D
therealronaldo7
24 Dec 2004, 06:42 PM
Indeed :)
Lebron James always struggled against Nets and Jefferson did tremendous job, now Nets are 5-4(I think) since Kidd return from injury.(Pretty good)
Now with Vince coming back next game I think and another player we are going to sign soon (looks like Keon Clark), I can see us in playoff no time :D
In the east anything is possible in terms of the playoffs. Being a Bulls fan and having won 5 in a row, the "P" word, Playoffs, has crept into my and others vocabulary in the last few days. However, I will not get ahead of myself.
RJ did have a great game for the Nets that night. He is something else.
Fulhamfc3
24 Dec 2004, 07:06 PM
In the east anything is possible in terms of the playoffs. Being a Bulls fan and having won 5 in a row, the "P" word, Playoffs, has crept into my and others vocabulary in the last few days. However, I will not get ahead of myself.
RJ did have a great game for the Nets that night. He is something else.
The Bulls have a great team. In the East if you have that kind of team you have a great chance of making the Playoffs.They are young which means if they keep the same team for about 2 years they have a great chance at Eats Finals or NBA Finals.Hinrich could become one of the better players in the league.
Metros Striker10
24 Dec 2004, 07:55 PM
He is something else. With out JKidd, Jefferson is a very good role player.
skipshady
28 Dec 2004, 02:00 PM
Bzdelik is Bzdone (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_nuggets_coach_fired)
Guess this was inevitable. He could get the Nuggets to respectability but couldn't get them to be contenders. Plus, Voshon Leonard's achilles didn't cooperate and it's hard to maintain your authority when you're a lame duck. But he's shown that he can get young teams to play tough defense, and he will have a future in the NBA.
afgrijselijkheid
28 Dec 2004, 06:39 PM
i finally get to see my SUNS play tonight in san antonio (hooray for canal+) - am i wrong or is this the game of the season to fate?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/preview?gid=2004122824
dark knight
28 Dec 2004, 06:59 PM
I'm a Spurs fan and I think you're wrong. Just don't think it's too significant either way. Spurs don't really get into a groove until the 2nd half of the season although it's a good test for the Suns to see if they are for real.
For me the game of the season was the Miami - LA game.
Rudy R9
28 Dec 2004, 09:42 PM
Bzdelik is Bzdone (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041228/ap_on_sp_bk_ne/bkn_nuggets_coach_fired)
Guess this was inevitable. He could get the Nuggets to respectability but couldn't get them to be contenders. Plus, Voshon Leonard's achilles didn't cooperate and it's hard to maintain your authority when you're a lame duck. But he's shown that he can get young teams to play tough defense, and he will have a future in the NBA.
MC is the new nugs coach. Hope Melo gets better and that they can start racking some boards for once.
Ian McCracken
28 Dec 2004, 11:04 PM
i finally get to see my SUNS play tonight in san antonio - am i wrong or is this the game of the season to fate?
And, so, Phoenix gets exposed as the frauds that they are.
dark knight
29 Dec 2004, 12:01 AM
And, so, Phoenix gets exposed as the frauds that they are.
You know it's a blowout when Tony Massenburg gets some minutes.
Fulhamfc3
29 Dec 2004, 02:48 AM
Lakers,Super Lakers.Kobe is the best in the NBA.
therealronaldo7
29 Dec 2004, 10:32 AM
Lakers,Super Lakers.Kobe is the best in the NBA.
They beat the Raptors.....settle down. Also, the best player in the NBA is not Kobe.....it is LeBron.
Fulhamfc3
29 Dec 2004, 04:04 PM
Kobe is the best in the NBA. Lebron is a good player but, still isnt the best yet. Kobe gets like 7 assists a game and gets like 28 points a game.Plus he helps his team alot.
therealronaldo7
29 Dec 2004, 04:27 PM
Kobe is the best in the NBA. Lebron is a good player but, still isnt the best yet. Kobe gets like 7 assists a game and gets like 28 points a game.Plus he helps his team alot.
First of all, Kobe broke up a team that won 3 championships in five years. That seems selfish to me. Second of all, Kobe does not consistently get his teammates involved in the game.
The stats so far this year speak for my argument.
Kobe - Shooting 40%, 28.4 pts, 7.1 rebs, 7.1 assists for a 15-12 team.
LeBron - Shooting 49.1%, 25.2 pts, 7.1 rebs and 7.3 assists for a 17-11 team.
In addition, LeBron only averages 19 shots a game while Kobe averages 21.5 a game.
LeBron is statistically better than Kobe offensively and defensively. Kobe is averaging 1.4 steals while LeBron is at 2.6. Justify that.
Metros Striker10
29 Dec 2004, 11:05 PM
Woo-hoo! Knicks beat Minny 100-87. Very nice win, considering that the big three for Minny was there and the Knicks were only with their big two, one who shot 2-11 and only had 20 odd minutes. The win gave them three straight wins in a row, which just so happens to be the amount of games Crawford has been injured. Could that be the reason? Possibly. Marbury has been playing better since that, so maybe. I'd like to see Big Three starting, but hey, Crawford is a great 6th man. Tim Thomas has also found some positive moments as of late, which is great. He's been through a lot this season, and I think he deserves some props for that.
Fullham, Kobe is the worst player in the NBA. I don't care if he averages 30-20-10..he's still a selfish player, and in my book, which is being read by many, it says that selfish players that break up Championship teams, aren't the best in the league. I'd still take LeBron over him. I'd take Marbury over him. Heart, Fullham. That's what gives players the description of "best." The movie the Replacements is a great example of this. Great players are those who work hard in making his teammates feeling comfortable, not those who put themselves on a pedestal and damages the image of the league.
therealronaldo7
29 Dec 2004, 11:46 PM
Woo-hoo! Knicks beat Minny 100-87. Very nice win, considering that the big three for Minny was there and the Knicks were only with their big two, one who shot 2-11 and only had 20 odd minutes. The win gave them three straight wins in a row, which just so happens to be the amount of games Crawford has been injured. Could that be the reason? Possibly. Marbury has been playing better since that, so maybe. I'd like to see Big Three starting, but hey, Crawford is a great 6th man. Tim Thomas has also found some positive moments as of late, which is great. He's been through a lot this season, and I think he deserves some props for that.
Metro Striker, the Knicks played very well tonight. The more I see Nazr Mohammad play, the more I am impressed. As a Knick fan, could you tell me the reasons Lenny Wilkens plays Sweetney in the 4th quarter over Mohammad? It does not make a lot of sense to me. Here is Mohammad tonight with 19 and 9 after three and he barely sees the floor in the 4th quarter. Why is that?
skipshady
30 Dec 2004, 12:54 AM
Trying to screw fantasy owners like me? I'm about to lose 1st place in both my leagues now! Damn you Lenny!
Fulhamfc3
30 Dec 2004, 03:59 AM
First of all, Kobe broke up a team that won 3 championships in five years. That seems selfish to me. Second of all, Kobe does not consistently get his teammates involved in the game.
The stats so far this year speak for my argument.
Kobe - Shooting 40%, 28.4 pts, 7.1 rebs, 7.1 assists for a 15-12 team.
LeBron - Shooting 49.1%, 25.2 pts, 7.1 rebs and 7.3 assists for a 17-11 team.
In addition, LeBron only averages 19 shots a game while Kobe averages 21.5 a game.
LeBron is statistically better than Kobe offensively and defensively. Kobe is averaging 1.4 steals while LeBron is at 2.6. Justify that.
He did not break up a Championship team. Sure he was a part of that but, Jackson and Shaq and the Media had alot to do with that to.Kobe plays for a 15-12 team yes but, he plays in the West while Lebron plays in the East.He has 3 more points a game.They are the same as far as stats but, on the court Kobe is the better player because of what he can do for the team.He gets like 2-3 defenders each time he gets the ball which gets other teammates an open shot. Plus Kobe gets to the foul line alot.
therealronaldo7
30 Dec 2004, 09:46 AM
He did not break up a Championship team. Sure he was a part of that but, Jackson and Shaq and the Media had alot to do with that to.Kobe plays for a 15-12 team yes but, he plays in the West while Lebron plays in the East.He has 3 more points a game.They are the same as far as stats but, on the court Kobe is the better player because of what he can do for the team.He gets like 2-3 defenders each time he gets the ball which gets other teammates an open shot. Plus Kobe gets to the foul line alot.
We are gonna agree to disagree on this one. Both of these players are great. In terms of Kopbe averaging more points, it might be because he shoots so much. Just a thought. In addition, last night proved my point about LeBron. He went down with a contusion to the face in th second quarter. He did not return and the Cavaliers team looked average. I think Kobe does attract defenders and such, but he is selfish in his shot selection, selfish in his passing and selfish overall.
The main difference I see in these two players is the Kobe is all about himself first and LeBron is all about the team. Deny it all you want, but I am guessing 90% of the basketball world will agree with me on my last point.
One last thing, you are such a homer in everything you say and write on these boards. Learn to be a little objective. It might help give you some credilbility around here.