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egrfree2rhyme

25 Oct 2004, 01:20 PM

is this movie based on a true story?? Also, did Jackie McQuillan exist, or is he based on a player but with his name changed? Sorry, I'm not too familiar with Celtic football but I enjoyed the movie alot and would love to know this stuff.

CW1980

25 Oct 2004, 02:22 PM

I've not actually seen the movie, and I'm guessing I'm not the only one, as its cinema distribution in the UK appears to have been scarcer than a Welshman who has never shagged a sheep.

It's entirely fictional as far as I'm aware. However, if it's about giant-killing Cup exploits, perhaps this was the inspiration...

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38993000/jpg/_38993885_sunheadline203.jpg

Scottish_Morton

25 Oct 2004, 04:27 PM

It's not based on a true story, but it is based the way the Scottish Cup works. Not that i've seen it...not that anyone here has seen it!

Bobbybhoy

25 Oct 2004, 05:39 PM

It's not based on a true story, but it is based the way the Scottish Cup works. Not that i've seen it...not that anyone here has seen it!biggest load of rubbish you will ever see McCoist plays a washed up former Celtic player,Who plays for a smaller club who make it to the SC final.The Gaffer is the guy form the Godfather movies...very bad Scottish accent .A waste of time!!!!!

CW1980

25 Oct 2004, 05:44 PM

biggest load of rubbish you will ever see McCoist plays a washed up former Celtic player,Who plays for a smaller club who make it to the SC final.The Gaffer is the guy form the Godfather movies...very bad Scottish accent .A waste of time!!!!!

:eek: Turncoat!!

Bobbybhoy

25 Oct 2004, 05:50 PM

:eek: Turncoat!!you tellin me!!! there is a bit in it that shows him playing for celtic ,old stuff with him at Ranger but with a green top....I think I wanted to throw up.

Gordon EF

25 Oct 2004, 06:55 PM

you tellin me!!! there is a bit in it that shows him playing for celtic ,old stuff with him at Ranger but with a green top....I think I wanted to throw up.

:D What do you expect from Robert Duvall?

There was a documentary about Jimmy Johnstone on tonight and I caught a bit, they were interviewing Duvall and hearing him saying "wee Jimmy Johnstone" was one of the funniest things I've heard.

Wasn't John McVeigh (ex- Raith Rovers and Albion Rovers manager) involved, was he the manager? He's a tosser.

Ed NYC Firm

25 Oct 2004, 07:06 PM

Gordon EF

25 Oct 2004, 07:40 PM

Sounds like Dundee's 73 League Cup win with Tommy Gemmill

It was not based on a true story and certainly not Dundee winning the League Cup.

The team in the film is a non-league team, Kilknockie or something like that, who win the Scottish Cup. Incidentally, the only team to have won the Scottish Cup from outside the top league is East Fife;)

Holyjoe

25 Oct 2004, 08:08 PM

Incidentally, the only team to have won the Scottish Cup from outside the top league is East Fife

Queen's Park won the Scottish Cup in 1893 whilst still a non-league side :p

CW1980

25 Oct 2004, 08:14 PM

It was not based on a true story and certainly not Dundee winning the League Cup.

The team in the film is a non-league team, Kilknockie or something like that, who win the Scottish Cup. Incidentally, the only team to have won the Scottish Cup from outside the top league is East Fife;)

That's because you had a good manager back then!

Gordon EF

25 Oct 2004, 10:58 PM

That's because you had a good manager back then!

Dave McLean, what a legend.:D

Ed NYC Firm

26 Oct 2004, 05:10 AM

It was not based on a true story and certainly not Dundee winning the League Cup.

I knew it wasn't ,just forgot to put the smiley in my original post .

Mon the Dee

Gordon EF

26 Oct 2004, 09:12 AM

Queen's Park won the Scottish Cup in 1893 whilst still a non-league side :p

Are you joking? Queens Park had won the Scottish Cup a few times before '93, weren't they a league team fo those ones? They were formed years before that too, what laegue did they play in at that time?

p.s. You better tell all the football historians because most seem to back me up:rolleyes:

Holyjoe

26 Oct 2004, 10:23 AM

Are you joking? Queens Park had won the Scottish Cup a few times before '93, weren't they a league team fo those ones? They were formed years before that too, what laegue did they play in at that time?

p.s. You better tell all the football historians because most seem to back me up

You really should check things out first, Gordon...

http://www.queensparkfc.co.uk/

By 1890 the Scottish Football league was formed, but despite being invited to join, Queen's Park resisted this new league set-up. Remaining true to their amateur ethics, they staunchly repelled the new 'professionalism' creeping into the sport and rejected joining a league that would ultimately involve professional clubs.

Queen's Park remained outside the Scottish Football league for several years... The lure of regular weekly fixtures was too hard to refuse; the club eventually entered the league in 1900.

Queen's Park's pre-1893 Cup final appearances came when there was no football league for them to have joined, ergo it would be a bit trite of anyone to claim that Queens (as well as Vale of Leven, Dumbarton, Renton, Hibernian and Third Lanark) won the Scottish Cup "from outside the top league" seeing as there was no top league then.

They didn't join the Scottish league until 1900, so their 1893 Scottish Cup victory was most definitely with them "outside the top league"...

:rolleyes:

Gordon EF

26 Oct 2004, 12:30 PM

You really should check things out first, Gordon...

http://www.queensparkfc.co.uk/

Queen's Park's pre-1893 Cup final appearances came when there was no football league for them to have joined, ergo it would be a bit trite of anyone to claim that Queens (as well as Vale of Leven, Dumbarton, Renton, Hibernian and Third Lanark) won the Scottish Cup "from outside the top league" seeing as there was no top league then.

They didn't join the Scottish league until 1900, so their 1893 Scottish Cup victory was most definitely with them "outside the top league"...

:rolleyes:

Fair enough, I've just heard it said loads of times, I apologise profusely.:rolleyes:

DJ_RFC

03 Nov 2004, 04:12 AM

Not only do you see McCoist in Celtic colours, you see Didier Agathe in Rangers colours lifting the Scottish Cup! Suppose he still played for Raith Rovers at the time

fischerw

19 Nov 2004, 07:20 PM

Good film! Gotta love the fly fishing/goal keeping analogy that helps the American keeper save the PK. Good photography in the movie, too. I would reccommend it. Also, I don't think the fictional Kilnockie FC is supposed to be non-leauge-- I think the premise is that they're 2nd division, but I'm not sure...