View Full Version : Ruud to be charged over cole incident?....
mixmastermatt
25 Oct 2004, 07:34 AM
ha ha ha ******** off!
as if!!!
that diving horse-faced twat will get off with a warning at the most!
arrrgggghhhh cheating dutch ********!
Teso Dos Bichos
25 Oct 2004, 08:59 AM
I honestly didn't see anything wrong with it. From what I saw, it looked like Ruud was trying to trap and drag the ball. Cole came in very quickly and the just managed to knock the ball away. To fine or charge anyone for what wasn't even a 50/50 (as Ruud still had possession) is a complete joke. Especially considering some of the stuff Denis "Watch my elbows/studs" Bergkamp has gotten away with.
Its only Ray Parlour
25 Oct 2004, 09:02 AM
But we know you're a twat of the highest order. So why would anyone "honestly" care what you think?
Its only Ray Parlour
25 Oct 2004, 09:25 AM
Watching it in real time, no-one in the bar saw anything wrong. No-one knew why Cole was on the ground. Seeing the first replay, nothing changed. It was only with the third replay from another angle that we all saw what happened, but even then, no-one felt it was deliberate because Ruud had possession and it appeared to everyone as if he was trying to control the ball. If anything (and this came from an Arsenal fan) it was Cole's fault for needlessly jumping into a challenge that he didn't need to make. Ruud was going no-where at the time. He also said that from the angle Cole went in, Ruud probably didn't see him till the last second and thus was unable to prevent the contact. Stick to you guns if you wish, it just sounds like more bitter complaining.
Unsuprisingly rubbish. van Nistelrooy was moving towards the ball as was Cole, he looks up at him to see him approaching and then instead of shielding the ball, he intentionally raises his leg and drives it down into Cole's knee & shin. The ball is well beneath him at his point and the motion he made towards Cole can not be reasonably argued to be an attempt to drag the ball back. It's blantant.
As for your defense that "no-one" thought it was deliberate, what utter rubbish, every major media out-let has condemned him for his antics.
Bitter complaining? So why is exactly is this staunch United supporter making similar remarks?
My opinion on this probably aint gonna make me too popular with the other Man U fans.
I thought what he did yesterday was disgusting. You could see from the reaction on his face the snide pleasure he got from doing it and getting away with it. It is a waste of a glorious talent - there is no reason for him to do it so why does he?
Not trying to equate this on par but I find it interesting that there is a similar dirty streak to Bergkamp (he's far too keen to throw the elbow out when things aren't going his way). Again, phenomenal talent but with an edge that is wholly unnecessary.
I hope the FA nail Ruud for what he did yesterday - at least a 3 game ban. I also wouldn't be hugely disappointed if his current lack of form continued and made SAF consider selling him. I think the cash we got would help bring in some replacements for our ageing players (just how much longer can Giggs and Schole go on) and bring in some new talent up front. I'd love to see Smith getting more time on the pitch - there's a lot more to come from him and we wont see it while Ruud is at OT.
surfcam
25 Oct 2004, 09:28 AM
Ruud's knee was up by his chest as he went to stomp on Cole's shin! Also, the linesman was standing right next to the play. If the positions were switched, Cole would have been sent off for sure.
SLO-Gunner
25 Oct 2004, 09:35 AM
Watching it in real time, no-one in the bar saw anything wrong. No-one knew why Cole was on the ground. Seeing the first replay, nothing changed. It was only with the third replay from another angle that we all saw what happened, but even then, no-one felt it was deliberate because Ruud had possession and it appeared to everyone as if he was trying to control the ball. If anything (and this came from an Arsenal fan) it was Cole's fault for needlessly jumping into a challenge that he didn't need to make. Ruud was going no-where at the time. He also said that from the angle Cole went in, Ruud probably didn't see him till the last second and thus was unable to prevent the contact. Stick to you guns if you wish, it just sounds like more bitter complaining.
Honestly, do you think your "views" amount to jack squat given your past posts on this board? Are you insane?
ripmstr
25 Oct 2004, 09:50 AM
How long will it take for the FA to come to some conclusion?
topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 09:52 AM
How long will it take for the FA to come to some conclusion?Do you mean how long will it take them to acquit him and apologize for wasting his and his manger's time?
:rolleyes:
Its only Ray Parlour
25 Oct 2004, 10:00 AM
I've just seen the incident again on Sky News, if you examine it closely you'll see that van Nistelrooy catches Cole square, just above Cole's knee with the stud on his heel. That potentially could have done serious damage if he hit the kneecap directly.
Teso Dos Bichos
25 Oct 2004, 10:24 AM
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=146282
Bluto11
25 Oct 2004, 11:25 AM
when it first happened i did not think RvN did anything wrong, then when I saw the replay everyone, including my Man Utd friends, thought Ruud should've gotten something.
how about when he pushed Jens down?
but then again didn't Jens do that to Ronaldo, out of bounds last year, did he get anything for that?
therealronaldo7
25 Oct 2004, 11:52 AM
when it first happened i did not think RvN did anything wrong, then when I saw the replay everyone, including my Man Utd friends, thought Ruud should've gotten something.
how about when he pushed Jens down?
but then again didn't Jens do that to Ronaldo, out of bounds last year, did he get anything for that?
Yeah, I thought that was funny when Ruud threw Jens down. I also thought it was funny when Jens did it to Ronaldo last year. There is always something with these two teams.
Bluto11
25 Oct 2004, 12:10 PM
Yeah, I thought that was funny when Ruud threw Jens down. I also thought it was funny when Jens did it to Ronaldo last year. There is always something with these two teams.
seriously, I thought he should've been booked, but then I remembered when he did it to Ronaldo and I could not remember if her got booked
did you watch the game at The Globe? It was a pretty good atmosphere, more Gunners that Utd supporters, but a good number of Utd supporters.
therealronaldo7
25 Oct 2004, 12:17 PM
seriously, I thought he should've been booked, but then I remembered when he did it to Ronaldo and I could not remember if her got booked
did you watch the game at The Globe? It was a pretty good atmosphere, more Gunners that Utd supporters, but a good number of Utd supporters.
Bluto, I stayed at home and watched the game. Last year when I went to Ginger's for the Arsenal match I almost got into a fight after Ruud missed the penatly and the melee broke out at Old Trafford. I got a little fired up so I thought it would be better to stay at home. I bet it was a good atmosphere though.
Motterman
25 Oct 2004, 12:17 PM
Apparently so:
www.thefa.com (http://www.thefa.com)
Also, they are still deciding what to do about the soup and Wenger's comments...
therealronaldo7
25 Oct 2004, 12:19 PM
Also, they are still deciding what to do about the soup and Wenger's comments...
What is the story with the soup and sandwiches incident. I read something on soccernet.com, but it does not give much detail. It sounds quite humorous.
Motterman
25 Oct 2004, 12:22 PM
What is the story with the soup and sandwiches incident. I read something on soccernet.com, but it does not give much detail. It sounds quite humorous.
There are so many variations from different sources, I don't know what to make of it. This is probably the case with the FA as well. One story said that an Arsenal source claimed that it was a sandwich, and not soup, and it was thrown accidently. Yes, "thrown accidently" are the words they used. :rolleyes:
therealronaldo7
25 Oct 2004, 12:24 PM
There are so many variations from different sources, I don't know what to make of it. This is probably the case with the FA as well. One story said that an Arsenal source claimed that it was a sandwich, and not soup, and it was thrown accidently. Yes, "thrown accidently" are the words they used. :rolleyes:
hmm..sounds like another incident in the bitter rivalry. I can't wait until more concrete details come out about this one.
topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 12:37 PM
hmm..sounds like another incident in the bitter rivalry. I can't wait until more concrete details come out about this one."Enquiring minds want to know!"
:D
Bluto11
25 Oct 2004, 12:42 PM
Bluto, I stayed at home and watched the game. Last year when I went to Ginger's for the Arsenal match I almost got into a fight after Ruud missed the penatly and the melee broke out at Old Trafford. I got a little fired up so I thought it would be better to stay at home. I bet it was a good atmosphere though.
There were no fights at the bar. Some guy in an old Giggs Utd shirt cam storming out the back singing Glory Glory Man Utd in a thick accent. I was not going to mess with him.