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babyduck85
25 Oct 2004, 04:12 AM
This is from the telegraph. i'm worried about fines..

Ferguson hit by soup as feelings come to the boil

Sir Alex Ferguson was involved in an incredible post-match fracas with Arsenal players in the Old Trafford tunnel last night in which the Manchester United manager had tomato soup thrown over him by an opposition player.

The incident, which took place in a corridor just off the main tunnel, comes little more than a year after the infamous 'Battle of Old Trafford' in which Ruud van Nistelrooy was attacked. This latest incident will send relations between the two clubs to a new low.

Witnesses at the scene said that the row between Ferguson and Arsenal players became so crowded and chaotic that it was impossible to tell which player threw the soup at the 62-year-old.

Early reports suggested that the culprit was Jens Lehmann but The Daily Telegraph have been told that Arsenal's German goalkeeper was only responsible for squirting water out of a drinking bottle at Ferguson.

The damage done to Ferguson's official club shirt, tie and blazer was so bad that the Scot had to go back into the United dressing rooms and get changed before he did his live interview on Sky television. He appeared more than 20 minutes after the end of the game and did the interview wearing a United tracksuit.

A witness in the tunnel told The Daily Telegraph: "The Arsenal players were enraged by what had happened on the pitch and after an exchange suddenly a cup of soup went flying in Ferguson's direction. There was so much pushing and shouting that you just couldn't tell who had thrown it at him."

The Arsenal players were finally bundled into their dressing room by coaching staff and told to change as quickly as possible to get them out of Old Trafford and avoid another flashpoint. Witnesses said that United officials with access to the second tunnel area were shocked at the way in which their manager was treated.

It now appears likely that Arsenal players could face disciplinary charges for the incident though much will depend on what referee Mike Riley includes in his official match report. It was not clear whether the match official was present at the time.

Ferguson, who has not attended post-match press conferences with newspapers for almost three years, looked calm and composed in his interview with Sky television though he was not asked about the tunnel incident. Wenger, who did come to the press room after the game, denied that any incident had taken place.

Six Arsenal players were charged after the match last September although only four received bans while the club were given a £175,000 fine.

An official spokesman for United last night refused to comment on what had taken place after the match.

Fabregas' no. 1 fan
25 Oct 2004, 06:42 AM
If only it was a brick

mixmastermatt
25 Oct 2004, 07:07 AM
if it was sol campbell thrown at him instead that would be realy funny!

topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 07:56 AM
if it was sol campbell thrown at him instead that would be realy funny!No, Sol thought about it, and then decided not too, so Riley will certainly write him up as the culprit.
:)

Teso Dos Bichos
25 Oct 2004, 08:56 AM
Once a team of thugs, always a team of thugs.

Val1
25 Oct 2004, 09:04 AM
For an incident that major, the reporting seems rather sketchy and we're left relying on the integrity of the British media. Not a lot to go on, at this point, but if true, I'd have to say I'm disappointed in our guys. Attacking the manager of another club is disgraceful and churlish and unprofessional. Plus, it's just stupid. Attacking Ferguson in OT. Great, could have lead to a real row and somebody could have gotten hurt. As it is, this is the kind of thing that could earn suspensions. And lastly, we had the upper hand in the moral high ground department. Freddie's no-call was dubious, Rooney's dive was disreputable, and Ruud's slash on Cole was despicable. We had a case to make re: Ruud's attackl on Cole, and now we've lost it, just because some players lost control and acted like children.

Motterman
25 Oct 2004, 09:05 AM
Well that's certainly a creative way to retaliate and not be caught later via video evidence.

Its only Ray Parlour
25 Oct 2004, 09:07 AM
Well that's certainly a creative way to retaliate and not be caught later via video evidence.

lol. Very true. :D

Its only Ray Parlour
25 Oct 2004, 09:10 AM
For an incident that major, the reporting seems rather sketchy and we're left relying on the integrity of the British media. Not a lot to go on, at this point, but if true, I'd have to say I'm disappointed in our guys. Attacking the manager of another club is disgraceful and churlish and unprofessional. Plus, it's just stupid. Attacking Ferguson in OT. Great, could have lead to a real row and somebody could have gotten hurt. As it is, this is the kind of thing that could earn suspensions. And lastly, we had the upper hand in the moral high ground department. Freddie's no-call was dubious, Rooney's dive was disreputable, and Ruud's slash on Cole was despicable. We had a case to make re: Ruud's attackl on Cole, and now we've lost it, just because some players lost control and acted like children.

It's a non-event. Just a running joke in the media so far. van Nistelrooy is the main sporting topic at the moment.

musicl
25 Oct 2004, 10:03 AM
Well we know it diffently wasnt Lehemen who through the soup - he would have dropped it.

Prawn Sandwich
25 Oct 2004, 10:12 AM
Come on - with Heinz(e) and Campbell on the pitch there was bound to be a soup incident sooner or later..... ;)

If this did happen lets hope the teams take the opportunity to deal with it behind doors, the last thing these two teams need is further media hype when they meet next time....

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25 Oct 2004, 10:15 AM
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What type of soup was it? I'd say Chicken Soup because well, it's Arsenal :P

topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 10:24 AM
Well we know it diffently wasnt Lehemen who through the soup - he would have dropped it.Props on the funny, but you mis-typed, Le' He Men would have killed him had they thrown it. Le' Scurrying Hackjob Van Nistledive would have caught it in his teeth, and Le' Americain Glazer would have just moved it to Tampa. :D ;)

topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 10:26 AM
The big question is

What type of soup was it? I'd say Chicken Soup because well, it's Arsenal :PIs that soup in your avatar's big, puffy cheeks? I think we have a suspect!!! :D

topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 10:27 AM
Come on - with Heinz(e) and Campbell on the pitch there was bound to be a soup incident sooner or later..... ;)

If this did happen lets hope the teams take the opportunity to deal with it behind doors, the last thing these two teams need is further media hype when they meet next time....Now this is funny. We need more of a sense of humor around here.

Motterman
25 Oct 2004, 10:28 AM
I, for one, am sick of the "Who will be banned after the latest United/Arsenal match?" game that the press likes to play...

Handle these things internally. It's affecting the game, IMO.

footballer10
25 Oct 2004, 10:53 AM
Come on - with Heinz(e) and Campbell on the pitch there was bound to be a soup incident sooner or later..... ;)

If this did happen lets hope the teams take the opportunity to deal with it behind doors, the last thing these two teams need is further media hype when they meet next time....
Funny and I completely agree.

topcatcole
25 Oct 2004, 11:20 AM
Why did they have soup in the tunnel? I would have thought that type of thing would have been in the dressing room.

amaranto
25 Oct 2004, 11:35 AM
The big question is
What type of soup was it? I'd say Chicken Soup because well, it's Arsenal :P

Early speculation was tomato soup. Now the word seems to be pea soup. I'm just dumbfounded that ManU serves soup at their post-game spread.

How angry does a man have to be to throw soup? Also, I think it was just Lehman's attempt to add some sorely needed comic relief. Surely, SAF must have understood this :) Now, if he'd thrown a club sandwich or a Cobb salad, then I think we'd be talking about a long-term ban (from the buffet table).

Henrik
25 Oct 2004, 11:53 AM
BBC Radio 2 says that Heinze is the main suspect!!