Would black guy be ok to watch soccer outside of England

[Roscoe P Coldchain]

Hey all I have a quick question...I am a 25 year old black dude from America. I am planning to go on a 14 or 21-day trip sometime next year to England, Scotland, France, Spain, Italy, Germany (and Belgium, Netherlands, Poland and Russia if I do 21 days). I want to get my fix of footie action also. I know that Arsenal has kicked blantant racism out of the stands for a long time, maybe longer than any major club team on the planet. England soccer matches I don't think would be a problem for me to go to but I am not familiar with the way black people are treated in the stands outside of England. I speak enough Espanol to hold a coversation and enough French to say what I need. I already know that I am NOT going to a Russian football game. Please help. What countries would be ok to consider to watch a football match in Europe outside of England? If I go to a Celtic match in Scotland would I be ok? ect. Any information would help...Thank ya now...Roscoe!

[afgrijselijkheid]

i've never seen a single example of racism to fans in germany or netherlands - you may draw some stares in the odd small town, but nobody will blink at you in a hamburg or an amsterdam - i can't say for sure, but i would probably feel very uneasy going into eastern europe as a black man - i highly doubt in france it would evr be much of an issue at all

[Gordon EF]

You should see no racsim at all in Scotland and England or Western European countries for that matter. I would imagine it's the same situation as in America. 99% of people won't even care what nationality or race you are, you'll get the odd idiot who probably is a racist but I've never seen a person be racially abused in Scotland in my life.

As bludaddy said, you might be a bit wary of Eatsern Europe as a black man, then again, I'd be waru of Eastern Europe as a white man.;)

In most European countires, race is not an issue in the stands or in the streets. That's my opinion anyway.

[lamb]

generally agree with all above.
feel free to correct me if i'm wrong but haven't some italian clubs still had some problems quite recently?

[F96]

It hurts to admit but if I was you I wouldn't visit a football match in eastern Germany exept for Berlin.

[Cassano]

It wasn't the Italian fans that had problems, it was Sinisa Mihaijlovic a couple of years ago that called Patrick Vieria a gorilla and asked him where his banana is. If you go to Italy and stay above Rome, it will be fine.

[CrisRicHeldTiago]

I think it's pretty safe for any person of african decent to travel and live anywhere, especially North America and Western Europe, and probably the world. How can that not be the case. When we see successful blacks, on our television or monitor screens, hear about them on our radio's, and interact with them throughout our daily lives. Whether it's Kofi Annan (Prez of the United Nations), Patrick Vieira(Arsenal Capt.), Colin Powell(Secretary of Defense-US), Oprah Winfrey, Micheal Jordan, Tiger Woods, the list goes on and on.

It's quite funny, but people can find alot of reasons to hate you (no fault of your own) apart from your skin colour. Hell...could be the way you chew gum, you're accent, you're social status, etc etc etc. So don't let anyone or anything impede your fun during you're travels.

Toodaloo

[RichardL]

I already know that I am NOT going to a Russian football game.
I saw three games in Russia in May and although there was racial chanting (well, the odd monkey noise anyway) it was kind of curious, like they were doing it out of some kind of novelty value rather than their being any real hatred behind it. Some people were joining in, then giggling to themselves like it was a big joke. It did feel like they were pretending to be racist, mimicking the racists if you will. Mind you, from what I saw of Russia, you will be very very aware of not being white. Nowhere else will "minority" have such a meaning. A shame, because it's a really interesting country, although if you do want to go, be aware you can't just go there like you can most european countries - you need a visa first.

[ruudboy]

As a Brotha myself, i went to France 98, i stayed in Paris and Lyon and went to Pamplona.I think you will be just fine, and the ladys in Europe love us, make sure to get some nice European ass!

[sardus_pater]

If you go to Italy and stay above Rome, it will be fine.

And the same if you go below Rome.

[Pigs]

I think it's pretty safe for any person of african decent to travel and live anywhere, especially North America and Western Europe, and probably the world. How can that not be the case.


Don't be stupid, if I was black I wouldn't bother living in parts of eastern europe. Well, wouldn't bother living in parts of eastern europe anyway, but.

racism in eastern Europe (http://www.transitionsabroad.com/publications/magazine/0111/shelton.shtml) although it's hard to believe this guy.

As for football games, anywhere in Western Europe should be fine but many Italian clubs do have racist supporters, especially Lazio. The big cities in Western Europe normally have a large african/carribean community.

[When Hell Unfreezes]

http://www.crooks-reunited.co.uk/images/cartoon/warner-brothers.jpg

Wherever you go man, stick to the main streets and with the crowds and you'll always be safe in Western Europe, someone will look out for you - I wouldn't advise anyone to venture alone into the suburbs though, make sure you have someone with you who knows the territory!

[Gordon EF]

http://www.crooks-reunited.co.uk/images/cartoon/warner-brothers.jpg

Wherever you go man, stick to the main streets and with the crowds and you'll always be safe in Western Europe, someone will look out for you - I wouldn't advise anyone to venture alone into the suburbs though, make sure you have someone with you who knows the territory!

Ha ha, yeah right.

[0-Point]

Course u can travel the globe 2 watch soccer as a Blak - just bring your oozie an' blade. :D

[Milos]

Hey all I have a quick question...I am a 25 year old black dude from America. I am planning to go on a 14 or 21-day trip sometime next year to England, Scotland, France, Spain, Italy, Germany (and Belgium, Netherlands, Poland and Russia if I do 21 days). I want to get my fix of footie action also. I know that Arsenal has kicked blantant racism out of the stands for a long time, maybe longer than any major club team on the planet. England soccer matches I don't think would be a problem for me to go to but I am not familiar with the way black people are treated in the stands outside of England. I speak enough Espanol to hold a coversation and enough French to say what I need. I already know that I am NOT going to a Russian football game. Please help. What countries would be ok to consider to watch a football match in Europe outside of England? If I go to a Celtic match in Scotland would I be ok? ect. Any information would help...Thank ya now...Roscoe!


You will probably be beat up for anything but your colour in some parts of England :)

[Pigs]

You will probably be beat up for anything but your colour in some parts of England :)

Yeah but you'd be seriously unlucky if you were a tourist being beaten up no matter what colour you were. I think any country has it's rough parts apart from maybe France, it's a bit hard to imagine a rough area in France.

[0-Point]

You will probably be beat up for anything but your colour in some parts of England :)

Colour gets u lynched! LOL
:D

[When Hell Unfreezes]

You will probably be beat up for anything but your colour in some parts of England :)

Milos said this not me!

[Mobile]

Yeah but you'd be seriously unlucky if you were a tourist being beaten up no matter what colour you were. I think any country has it's rough parts apart from maybe France, it's a bit hard to imagine a rough area in France.

Ever been to Marseille?

[go_otrova]

You will probably be beat up for anything but your colour in some parts of England :)

Ahem! You will probably be beat up for the color that you wear not for the color that you were.