Have you trained passing?

[Danks81]

I was reading a thread on the BDF conference discussing the pros and cons of training passing. It got me wondering, who here has trained passing? And if so, for how long and to what success?

[kopiteinkc]

I have trained it in the past.

I found it boosted both my mid and forward ratings.

Now it depends on your philosophy some and your attitude towards the game.

Some hattrickers are 100% convinced that the way to go is to make as much money as possible by training one skill as high as they can as quickly as they can to make money on trainees.

Another school of thought is that you can make more money by developing players with more than one primary skill. Such as PM and passing, or scoring and passing, etc.

Another way of thinking is developing your best possible team and worrying less about money making and more about developing a well rounded team to help you advance.

Personally I found the passing training useful but wouldn't rely on it as my sole form of training. Over the long term I plan over 3 seasons, 2.5 seasons of PM training and 0.5 season of passing (with stamina in the off season if necessary).

[AAGunner3]

I have trained it in the past.

I found it boosted both my mid and forward ratings.

And winger ratings...

Another way of thinking is developing your best possible team and worrying less about money making and more about developing a well rounded team to help you advance.

It nicely upgrades your attack ratings. I'm training passing this week. Usually train it at least once during the offseason. Then a couple of weeks during the season. I've got some young wingers and forwards that will benefit as a result. If an a year or two, I can sell those wingers/forwards for more than I previously bought them, great! In the meantime, I'll benefit from their increased attack ratings, and my IMs will be better for it.

The bottom line in my thinking is: The devs are NOT going to IMPROVE the impact of playmaking on the outcome of the match. They'll either keep it the status quo, or reduce its effectiveness. So, as an IM trainer, I'm including passing as part of my regimen.

If you are going to train passing as your sole method, you've got to use it to train forwards, wingers and IMs (maybe even mix in defenders). That's a lot of trainees to acquire and keep track of.

I think of passing as helping my team play better as a team. Instead of 3 ball hogging forwards, and a squad of IMs that never assist, a good passing team ought to be able to play better as a team and win more games as a result. Maybe I'm off base here.

[Danks81]

Thanks guys for the info, I think I'll train passing for a few weeks later this season. Is it Hattrix accurate in saying it takes 5 weeks to pop a 17 year old in passing?

Another way of thinking is developing your best possible team and worrying less about money making and more about developing a well rounded team to help you advance.


Amen.

[jstoen]

Thanks guys for the info, I think I'll train passing for a few weeks later this season. Is it Hattrix accurate in saying it takes 5 weeks to pop a 17 year old in passing?



Amen.


I trained it at the end of last season just to see if anyone pops. I plan to do that at the end of every season.

[Kevin in Louisiana]

I trained passing for a week at the end of the past season because I didn't want form to suffer too much from two straight weeks of stamina and I decided that training set pieces would be pretty much worthless. No pops, though.

[Dan Loney]

I'd bought a titanic middie with wretched passing. I figured everyone else on the team had enough stamina, so in the offseason I would train passing to get the guy's ratings off the floor. Took a couple of offseasons, though.

[kuhnscoot]

I have trained it a little, enough to get a few guys to pop, and it's helped. I figure I'll train it in an offseason coming up, and then possibly for a full season once my U-20 prospect gets higher. Once he gets high enough where I don't know if I can afford his wages anymore, I'll train passing for a season or something then sell him.

[Pattrick]

I'm seriously considering switching to passing full-time when I quit training scoring. I just bought new trainees though, so it won't be in the near future...

Escpecially the gap between weak and inadequate passing is interesting. It's bigger than the other. And you don't want to know what people pay for formidable passers with a bit of scoring...

[Helghallen]

I think it is interesting the jump in prices that happens when a player has weak passing and inadequate passing. You will pay considerably more for a player with the latter.

[AAGunner3]

I've gone back to PM for now. I expect the market to be reasonably down by the end of the season with all of the people rushing to expand their arenas instead.

So, I've got this one IM who I want to get to formidable and once he does that, I'll go back to passing until he pops one last time, then I'll list him on the market. Then I'll likely go back to PM till the offseason.

[puddleduck]

I think it is interesting the jump in prices that happens when a player has weak passing and inadequate passing. You will pay considerably more for a player with the latter.

True. However the TPE database used by HAM and HB grossly exagerates this jump by averaging the prices of all players with passing >= inad.

Not that the jump doesn't exist, just don't expect to get what the program predicts for an inad. passer.

[Helghallen]

I have actually found it to be low

[puddleduck]

I have actually found it to be low


Really? That's interesting. I'll have to look into it more.

[Helghallen]

But it is so worth it. You won't regret it.

[Pattrick]

It'd be cool to train a brilliant scorer's passing from weak to passable and gain half a million on him in 10-12 weeks' time. And that for 15 players (343 on sundays and 253 on wednesdays)...

IF you're planning on training passing, make sure you've got millions to spare. Training 15 solid scorers on passing probably won't be as profitable as training 6 scorers on scoring...