Arena Names 23-Man Roster to Train for Qualifiers

[Fulhamfc3]

dmb still deserves to start because he has more talent than lewis.usa need the 3 points they cant go in for a draw. gaven should get the start against panama if usa do win and should play about 15-20 minutes against el salvador. eddie johnson should start. johnson is a good player and hasnt got a chance yet but should.

[Wahoo]

nice find atouk. been waiting for this.

--------------------------Keller----------------------------------
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---Sanneh---------Pope--------------Gooch----------Convey-------
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---------------------------Zevagnin--------------------------------
----Jones-----------------------------------------Lewis------------
--------------------------Donovan----------------------------------
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---------------Wolff------------------Johnson-------------------------
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Here's the thing. If your not good enough to play for your club or at least et consistent minutes. You don't deserve to start for USA. That means you DaMarcus Beasley, Tim Howard. I know I'm being hypocritical with Convey but Vanney was not called in (thank god) and Convey is a million times better a Arena-LB than Boca (who has been injured - amd please not I said ARENA0LEFT BACK, A completly different animal than Chris Coleman's Left back).


Have you seen Bocanegra play for Fulham? He is a huge part of their attack. He moves forward quite a bit and puts in crosses. Not only that but he plays defense well. What part of that doesn't fit in with Arena's plans?

And if you want to avoid being hypocritical... you may want to rethink your goalkeeper as you've selected the only one not to play this season for their club. Of the 3, right now only Walker is aneveryday starter. Howard, while he's currently being rested (according to Ferguson), has played more games than Keller this year so should be your backup.

[Walter3000]

nice find atouk. been waiting for this.

this is my starting Xi based upon current fotm and the situation of playing in ES.


--------------------------Keller----------------------------------
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---Sanneh---------Pope--------------Gooch----------Convey-------
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---------------------------Zevagnin--------------------------------
----Jones-----------------------------------------Lewis------------
--------------------------Donovan----------------------------------
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---------------Wolff------------------Johnson-------------------------
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Here's the thing. If your not good enough to play for your club or at least et consistent minutes. You don't deserve to start for USA. That means you DaMarcus Beasley, Tim Howard. I know I'm being hypocritical with Convey but Vanney was not called in (thank god) and Convey is a million times better a Arena-LB than Boca (who has been injured - amd please not I said ARENA0LEFT BACK, A completly different animal than Chris Coleman's Left back). This is also why I believe McBride has no place to start for us when the likes of Eddie Johnson is playing well and showing his talent at any given chance. I think Cobi Jones is a better option RIGHT NOW than Eddie Gaven. Just watch his match against the Quakes. Cobi is a battler and will cause trouble with his pace. And with his experience you know he won't screw up either defensivly. With a road match you don't neccasarily go all out for the win, a tie almost guarentees us a trip to the HEX.

keep in mind people, younger does not mean better


this is just terrible. Beasley has been one of our best, if not our best player over the past year or so, lewis nor anyother midfield player produces like him(even landon). COBI JONES!!!!! wolff and johnson??? you said convey is a better left back than carlos? are you on crack?convey is still learning how to play defense, bocanegra is a very good defender, in the EPL. your choices are ludicrous. we never play a diamond midfield anyways, lately we have donovan and beasley as left and right attacking mids roaming the whole field, with reyna and armas playing more as holders(with reyna out kerry can take his spot). i hope clint gets a shot, i know he is inconsistent but who else do we have thats as dangerous as a finisher?
one more thing:

"Here's the thing. If your not good enough to play for your club or at least et consistent minutes. You don't deserve to start for USA"
--so you think we should reward guys for staying in the crappy mls, and punishing guys for trying to make it in a real league?

[Sanguine]

this is my starting Xi based upon current fotm and the situation of playing in ES.


--------------------------Keller--------------------------

Here's the thing. If your not good enough to play for your club or at least et consistent minutes. You don't deserve to start for USA. That means you DaMarcus Beasley, Tim Howard.

explain Keller, then.

edit - nevermind, you already did.

[Bob Morocco]

Yes Lewis has been playing well but the only way he starts against the sallies is if Beasley is on the right or hurt. While I'd like to see Gaven, Beasley, Donovan, and Johnson all on the field it won't happen in El Salvador and at most three will play against Panama. With this roster a 3-5-2 almost makes sense, I would like to put dolo on the right wing, but I think Sanneh was tipped to start so dolo was left home. A reasonable 3-5-2 lineup would be:
--------Keller
--Gibbs--Pope--Boca
-Sanneh---Zavagnin
Donovan--Mathis--Beasley
----Mcbride--Wolf

Sanneh would have more wing defensive responsibilities than KZ as would Beasley. The thing I would like would be for Donovan and Mathis to be able to roam like Clarence Seedorf and Kaka for Milan who while they lineup as a CAM and RM switch and balance each other. If the right way to incorporate Donovan and Mathis in attack could be found this lineup would be very good and situationaly flexible allowing Sanneh to move from a DM spot to a RB spot when we go ahead.

[Serie Zed]

Gaven, Johnson and Gooch again. Good.


-----------Howard
---Sanneh Pope Boca Gibbs
Gaven Mastroeni Donovan Beasley
-------McBride Johnson

Size and speed.

[American40]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Lewis should start at left wing ahead of Beasley. Because he's better.

OK, now I'm ducking...

[strider026]

Bruce is going to use Mathis, Donovan, and DMB as starters in at least one game if he feels that Mathis can go 60+.

What is your attitude about Mathis? Of course he can go 90. He is in the best shape of his life.

[appoo]

Have you seen Bocanegra play for Fulham? He is a huge part of their attack. He moves forward quite a bit and puts in crosses. Not only that but he plays defense well. What part of that doesn't fit in with Arena's plans?

And if you want to avoid being hypocritical... you may want to rethink your goalkeeper as you've selected the only one not to play this season for their club. Of the 3, right now only Walker is aneveryday starter. Howard, while he's currently being rested (according to Ferguson), has played more games than Keller this year so should be your backup.
yea, I've seen Bocanegra and I disagree that he's a "huge part of their attack". I think he plays nothing more than a tertiery role in the Fulham attack. With Arena, he would need to be a primary provider.

I explained a few posts above that I was wrong about Keller and should have started Walker.

Another thing I forgot to take into account was the fact that Beas will be starting against Groningen this weekend. This should guarentee that his fitness level is up.

of course, according to Arena's quote sheet, Beas had been exhausted for awhile and that was why he had been "benched". so perhaps, not playing for awhile is a good thing. So I think I once more, re think myself and play Beas on the wing. I also wonder if Zevagnin or Maestro is good enough to hold the defensive midfield down. Really wish Armas were healthy for this one. This match is gonna be painful.

[onefineesq]

I guess I'm the only one who thinks Lewis should start at left wing ahead of Beasley. Because he's better.

OK, now I'm ducking...

Yes, please duck, because if you think that Lewis is better ................. oh, forget it.

[Eliezar]

What is your attitude about Mathis? Of course he can go 90. He is in the best shape of his life.

First, I seriously doubt that he is in the best shape of his life and there is no way you can prove that he is in the best shape of his life. How many full 90 minute games has Mathis played in the past month? Where are you even pulling this "best shape of his life" out of?

Second, Bruce Arena said:

"I think Clint’s going to be a little bit better this time around just because he’s been back into the swing of things a little bit longer. He had an injury over the summer and hasn’t been in the first 11 for Hannover until recently. I think that’s a big plus and we should see a better Clint Mathis this time around." from http://www.ussoccerplayers.com/latest_soccer_news/450923.html

It does not appear that Arena thinks Mathis is on top of his game, but rather that Mathis is "better" right now than he was at the camp for the last set of games.

In Panama, pretty much everybody who is not Clint's Mom or fan club member saw that he only had the endurance to play about 35 minutes and then he started fading badly and was subbed just after half time. Or are you saying that that is the best shape of Clint's life?

[Onionsack]

.....................Howard.....................

Sanneh......Boca........Gooch..........Convey

....................Mastroeni...........................

Beasley....................................Lewis

...................Donovan......................

............Mathis............Johnson.........


In my USMNT fantasy World I found myself inside Bruce Arena's body and ran out this first 11....we won like 10-0...I am a genius in that World.

[Adam Zebrowski]

My line-up:

Keller

Sanneh Pope Gibbs Bocanegra

Mastroeni

Donovan Beasley

Mathis

McBride Wolff

http://www.socceramerica.com/article.asp?Art_ID=562135087

Arena speaks:

On Steve Cherundolo:

''I'll tell you, Steve Cherundolo is first class. When I informed him of this decision by email, he thanked me for letting me know where he stood with everything and he wished us the best. I don't know if you know a whole lot about the modern day player, but it's very rare that we get that kind of response. Steve has always put the team first. Again, in Steve's case, and especially with his club, they frown upon players being called and flown across the pond and not participating. That was the case with Steve and I don't think that would have helped our relationship with Hannover. That was part of my thinking in that decision.''

[Mr Martin]

My line-up:

Keller

Sanneh Pope Gibbs Bocanegra

Mastroeni

Donovan Beasley

Mathis

McBride Wolff


That is exactly the consensus lineup from the polls. Either you are brilliant, or you're just swinging along with the popular votes... :p :D ;)


Kidding aside, I think that is basically correct, too. Although I think Zavagnin may be more likely than Mastro at defensive mid, given his recent experience there for MLS and the Nat's.

The only other difference that might occur is Hedjuk in the starting lineup, either 1) at right back instead of Sanneh if Arena thinks Sanneh isn't ready for a full international away match, or 2) at left back (where he played well at the 2002 WC), moving Boca centrally and Gibbs to the bench. I don't prefer either of these options, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Sanneh will play at least one of the next two matches. Convey will certainly start in Washington at left back against Panama, but I'd be surprised if he starts two consecutive matches, so that drops him from the El Salvador match.

[onefineesq]

That is exactly the consensus lineup from the polls. Either you are brilliant, or you're just swinging along with the popular votes... :p :D ;)


Kidding aside, I think that is basically correct, too. Although I think Zavagnin may be more likely than Mastro at defensive mid, given his recent experience there for MLS and the Nat's.

The only other difference that might occur is Hedjuk in the starting lineup, either 1) at right back instead of Sanneh if Arena thinks Sanneh isn't ready for a full international away match, or 2) at left back (where he played well at the 2002 WC), moving Boca centrally and Gibbs to the bench. I don't prefer eithe of these options, but I wouldn't be surprised.

Sanneh will play at least one of the next two matches. Convey will certainly start in Washington at left back against Panama, but I'd be surprised if he starts two consecutive matches, so that drops him from the El Salvador match.

Do i get an award too? I voted in all 3 polls in the first hour that the polls came out, and I picked those players. I think everyone is simply following in my large footsteps! LOL

[Mr Martin]

Do i get an award too? I voted in all 3 polls in the first hour that the polls came out, and I picked those players. I think everyone is simply following in my large footsteps! LOL

Yes, of course you get an award, too. :)

I need a smiley that shows me patting onefineesp on the head soothingly...

;)

[SABuffalo786]

I need a smiley that shows me patting onefineesp on the head soothingly...




Too easy.


And about the "if you don't start for your club, you don't start for the USA", I think that's being a bit unfair to DMB. He's done everything he could for a starting spot at PSV. He's just a victim of squad rotation.

[Fulhamfc3]

bocanegra is a huge part of fulhams attack. bocanegra is more of a midfielder to fulham but if fulham have to he will play defender. fulham attack alot and bocanegra is a big part most of fulhams defenders attack. bocanegra is also a starter for a top 8 team in the premiership so he should defenitley start for usa anyway.

[appoo]

Too easy.


And about the "if you don't start for your club, you don't start for the USA", I think that's being a bit unfair to DMB. He's done everything he could for a starting spot at PSV. He's just a victim of squad rotation.
didn't quite mean a starter. I just meant that you should be playing once in awhile. I if Park hadn't gotten injured more than likely Beas wouldn't have gotten more than 30 minutes of run since the Arsenal match

[Fulhamfc3]

beasley is playing on a good team. psv have alot of good players. beasley has only been there for what 2-3 months he still needs to compete for a job on the team. most players unless its henry or someone like that wont start right away. beasley needs to wait to get the starting job or have 2 great matches with the usa and maybe the manager will let beasley play some more. he needs to prove that he can help psv to champions league success and a league title.