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Alothi
30 Sep 2004, 10:06 AM
Hello,

From SoccerTv.com

Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation has filed trademark applications 78444142 and 78485747 with the United States Patent and Trademark Office to register the names "FOX Soccer Channel" and "The Soccer Channel".

Can anyone from Fox please inform of this......

writered21
30 Sep 2004, 10:13 AM
Hello,

From SoccerTv.com

Twentieth Century Fox Film Corporation has filed trademark applications 78444142 and 78485747 with the United States Patent and Trademark Office to register the names "FOX Soccer Channel" and "The Soccer Channel".

Can anyone from Fox please inform of this......

Oliver's been posting this on BS for months, after someone first noticed the Trademark deal.

Oliver runs soccertv.com.

There are plenty of threads on this topic already, and even a poll, if memory serves me correctly.

kevruth
30 Sep 2004, 02:40 PM
And the poll finished with the majority thinking that the name change would take place after the first of the year. Oliver originally thought this would happen in November. He now says February.

geordienation
30 Sep 2004, 03:12 PM
And the poll finished with the majority thinking that the name change would take place after the first of the year. Oliver originally thought this would happen in November. He now says February.


He is, however, waiting for the FOX NASCAR channel to kick it off the air first.

nyrmetros
30 Sep 2004, 06:45 PM
He is, however, waiting for the FOX NASCAR channel to kick it off the air first.
It almost did, but we the fans of NON nascab auto racing fought it and settled with Speed Channel.

da_cfo
01 Oct 2004, 02:38 AM
It almost did, but we the fans of NON nascab auto racing fought it and settled with Speed Channel.

That is correct.

FOX Sports boss David Hill ultimately decided that FOX should have a racing channel instead of just a NASCAR channel.

By buying Speedvision (in an equity swap, where FOX gave up its stakes in The Golf Channel and OLN to Comcast and bought out COX), FOX took control of a potential competitor in Speedvision, kept Formula 1 in check, and made sure that ESPN's plan to launch ESPN4 (all auto racing) never got off the ground.

People still don't realize the close call FOX Sports World had 4 years ago.

FOX Sports World came a lot closer to being shut down by FOX Television than the people at FSI would care to admit.

GutBomb
02 Oct 2004, 04:47 PM
if someone puts me on their ignore list does that mean i also no longer see their messages? not that I am complaining, because i like it this way, but I don't see any of oliver's (da_cfo) posts anymore. or is there something more sinister afoot?

as for the fox soccer channel... i doubt it's going to happen.

da_cfo
03 Oct 2004, 11:08 AM
if someone puts me on their ignore list does that mean i also no longer see their messages? not that I am complaining, because i like it this way, but I don't see any of oliver's (da_cfo) posts anymore. or is there something more sinister afoot?

as for the fox soccer channel... i doubt it's going to happen.

One or more moderators decided to make "da_cfo" into a non-person on bigsoccer.com for 72 hours.

Looks like my ban was lifted for the time being.

Let's see how long that lasts.

I am, afterall, allegedly part of the 3-headed "axis of evil" (along with Charlie Stillitano and Jamie Trecker) that is out to destroy US domestic soccer.

writered21
03 Oct 2004, 11:16 AM
if someone puts me on their ignore list does that mean i also no longer see their messages? not that I am complaining, because i like it this way, but I don't see any of oliver's (da_cfo) posts anymore. or is there something more sinister afoot?

as for the fox soccer channel... i doubt it's going to happen.

He is not on my Ignore List ... but his posts are not appearing.

I think there's probably a reason for that.

monster
03 Oct 2004, 11:20 AM
This is not a place to discuss the whys and wherefores af an admin decision. Go to suggestions and announcements for that, please.

Thanks.

Rocket
03 Oct 2004, 01:28 PM
This is not a place to discuss the whys and wherefores af an admin decision. Go to suggestions and announcements for that, please.

Thanks.
Do you have a link to a thread on this in S&A?

nyrmetros
07 Oct 2004, 02:50 AM
I think it would be a mistake to drop the Aussie Rules Football and International Rugby. Both are amazing sports and I never would have gotten into them if it weren't for FSW showing them.

FoxBoro 143
07 Oct 2004, 01:19 PM
I think it would be a mistake to drop the Aussie Rules Football and International Rugby. Both are amazing sports and I never would have gotten into them if it weren't for FSW showing them.
But what do you like better?

nyrmetros
07 Oct 2004, 03:37 PM
But what do you like better?
What does it matter? I very much enjoy watching Soccer, Aussie Rules, and Rugby all on 1 channel. I really think I would get sick of 24 hours of soccer, without some Aussie and rugby thrown in to break it up.

mcpish
07 Oct 2004, 06:36 PM
But what do you like better?

When I first got FSW in June of 2003, I liked Rugby better simply because I felt it was easier to get at first with it being similar to American Football. I didn't really "get" Aussie Rules that first year, the high scoring offensive nature of it, it seemed too easy to kick goals and I felt it ought to be lower scoring by perhaps having a set of crossbars between those uprights. This year however, I followed the AFL season from the beginning and became a fan of it. Coming from a North American sports fan perspective, I've noticed it takes a certain kind of mindset to get into these kind of sports (Australian)but once you do, you will enjoy them. It's hard to explain, but it's almost as if they represent a completely different culture of sport. A culture in which Australian sports seem so chaotic at first glance to the North American spectator caused by our own perception of professional sports as being very rigid, technical, and statistical in nature, and where professional athletes are pampered. Not so in Aussie Rules.

sokol
11 Oct 2004, 02:43 AM
When I first got FSW in June of 2003, I liked Rugby better simply because I felt it was easier to get at first with it being similar to American Football. I didn't really "get" Aussie Rules that first year, the high scoring offensive nature of it, it seemed too easy to kick goals and I felt it ought to be lower scoring by perhaps having a set of crossbars between those uprights. This year however, I followed the AFL season from the beginning and became a fan of it. Coming from a North American sports fan perspective, I've noticed it takes a certain kind of mindset to get into these kind of sports (Australian)but once you do, you will enjoy them. It's hard to explain, but it's almost as if they represent a completely different culture of sport. A culture in which Australian sports seem so chaotic at first glance to the North American spectator caused by our own perception of professional sports as being very rigid, technical, and statistical in nature, and where professional athletes are pampered. Not so in Aussie Rules.


Aussie rules is an awesome game. What's really too bad is that we Americans don't get the chance to see it live. If you can even learn to enjoy it on tv, you will instantly love it live because the the field is so big, yet the whole time something important is happening even if it's 70 meters away of screen and when you see it live, you get to enjoy that aspect of the game as well. The same is true for soccer of course but not to the same extent as Aussie rules. Unfortunately it's too violent to be played officially in America, with our lawsuit happy mentality and the technical, statistical aspect you mentioned missing. It would be a shame to see it off the air, even for more soccer.

PsychedelicCeltic
11 Oct 2004, 12:18 PM
My first reaction was I hate Fox, my second reaction was this isn't happening and here's why:

1) Fox Sports World just spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new set for their rugby show. Like, two months ago. Don't you think they'd rather get some mileage out of the new set?

2) Murdoch has significant interest in Rugby League, Rugby Union, and the Australian Football League, which he has collectively plunked down hundreds of millions of dollars to acquire the rights to show. I therefore am extremely skeptical that he will not show it in the world's largest media market and another significant media market (Canada) in favor of more "fan replays" of Premiership football.

3) It's not completely unreasonable to ask if Fox Soccer Channel is another seperate channel that will leave FSW to actually fulfill its mission of showing WORLD SPORTS, not WORLD SPORTS THAT HAPPEN TO START WITH AN "F" AND END WITH "BALL".

Unorthodox Yank
11 Oct 2004, 06:53 PM
My first reaction was I hate Fox, my second reaction was this isn't happening and here's why:

1) Fox Sports World just spend tens of thousands of dollars on a new set for their rugby show. Like, two months ago. Don't you think they'd rather get some mileage out of the new set?

2) Murdoch has significant interest in Rugby League, Rugby Union, and the Australian Football League, which he has collectively plunked down hundreds of millions of dollars to acquire the rights to show. I therefore am extremely skeptical that he will not show it in the world's largest media market and another significant media market (Canada) in favor of more "fan replays" of Premiership football.

3) It's not completely unreasonable to ask if Fox Soccer Channel is another seperate channel that will leave FSW to actually fulfill its mission of showing WORLD SPORTS, not WORLD SPORTS THAT HAPPEN TO START WITH AN "F" AND END WITH "BALL".

And to think i've been spelling "cricket" wrong all of these years...

FoxBoro 143
11 Oct 2004, 09:51 PM
What does it matter? I very much enjoy watching Soccer, Aussie Rules, and Rugby all on 1 channel. I really think I would get sick of 24 hours of soccer, without some Aussie and rugby thrown in to break it up.
So you spend 24 hours a day watching FSW?

Khansingh
12 Oct 2004, 12:53 AM
So you spend 24 hours a day watching FSW?

Why not? I spend 24 hours a day watching the Hotnet.