Millwall v Ferencvaros

[Fradika]

What do you all think of Millwall's chanches this thursday in Budapest? The bookies fancy Fradi, and i bet we will fight like theres no tomorrow. Everyone knows it will mean the world to the Club's finances to reach the group stage of the UEFA Cup. We got cheated out of the Champions League group stages by having to play two 15 minute extra time periods away from home after regulation ended in a 1-1 aggregate tie. In instances such as that it should go to penalties and skip extra time, since the home crowd becomes the 12th and 13th man for the home side when the teams are utterly exhausted.
Anyhow, Wise is a great footballer, but I have faith in the Eagles and I think they have what it takes to put a couple in the back of the Millwall net at the Ulloi Ut

[Wide Boy]

If Millwall win, then we will know that Hungarian football is in really big trouble.

And Wise isn't a great player and never was - he is just an annoying tw@t.

[Coach_McGuirk]

Millwall gets a lot of grief, but I am completely behind them tomorrow.

I think it will be great if they manage to get through to the next stage, something positive that the club can build on.

[gremista]

went to the game last night....fradi looked pretty damn good

Nice to see Wise get a consolation goal at the end

[Wide Boy]

Did the Millwall fans behave themselves?

There are reports of four stabbings of Millwall supporters over here, but I haven't seen anything that says who was to blame for the trouble.

[sinner78]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/millwall/3706546.stm

The Millwall chairman isnt very pleased about the events of the night.

[gremista]

Have not seen confirmation on the stabbings, but I would not be surprised....I do know there were some pretty serious incidents in town before the game of fans having it out with each other

There were problems throughout the night (******** being thrown,etc) though none near me. Concerning racial taunts, I could not tell because my Hungarian is poor, but I did not hear anything

Sadly, I thought this was going to be the case before the game. Almost didn't go, but really wanted to see a UEFA match (last one I saw was ten years ago in Portugal)

Fradi fans have a pretty bad rep and from what I understand so does Milwall. IN spite of all this crap, I actually did enjoy the game

[sendorange]

Milwall have improved their fan behaviour a great deal over the past few years and a lot of the credit for that goes to Paphitis.

[Colin Bell the King]

Sorry but I have no sympathy for the fans who got stabbed last night. Let me tell you why.

Millwall are Millwall. Vicious thugs. The average football team has a minority element of active hooligans, and a few hundred more who will join in if provoked. Millwall have that minority too, but I would judge they have thousands of people who will willingly join in.

And if you're going to dismiss this in your noveau 'chelsea fan supporting since 2003' bollocks listen to my experiences with the scum from Deptford.

Season 1998/1999 Man City were in Division 2, (League Champioship 1, or Division 3) and faced Millwall at home and away. I was 15 then, had done all the aways that season, apart from Millwall away. My mam banned me from going to that game even though I wanted to. She has little interest in football, doesn't give a hoot about the offside rule, and can't name more than six teams. Man City, Man United, Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool and Millwall.

Why Millwall?

Her Brother, my uncle, is a Luton town fan. He was at the infamous game in 1985 where Millwall fans rioted. He got hit by a seat as thousands of Millwall fans rampaged on the pitch. If an 'ordinary' person knows about the menace that is Millwall then it tells you something about the reputation they have.

My experience came at the home game. I was in the north stand near the away fans, not by choice, but I was there. I saw loads and loads of Millwall boys desperately trying to wind up City fans. When City scored thier goals, Millwall charged. Anyone was fair game for these cockney sparrers. This was in the late 90's. Hadn't ever seen this level of violence inside a stadium since, well, BBC footage of the bad old days of the 70's and 80's. So to have hundreds of burberry and pringled up thugs desperately forcing thier way past helpless stewards and police just to batter City fans was sobering.

I wasn't left out of it. Oh no, a 15 year old boy who didnt even look hard, was spat at, had coins thrown at, and someone even tried to lob a chair seat at me. Everyone was coming under attack. Millwall were kept in for an hour because the general mood had changed, and every Manc and his dog was ready to pound them for the liberty they had bestowed on us.

I'll do any away game, oh yes. I go to almost every match with City without giving it a second thought. But if we ever had to go down the Cold Blow Lane on a wet Tuesday night again I would seriously doubt going.

Sorry, but thats the bitter truth. Millwall are a hooligans club if there ever was one, and the fans do revel in thier notorious reputation.

"No one likes us, No one likes us, WE DONT CARE"

And why is that you cockney fcuks?

[RichardL]

I'll do any away game, oh yes. I go to almost every match with City without giving it a second thought. But if we ever had to go down the Cold Blow Lane on a wet Tuesday night again I would seriously doubt going.?

you'd be pretty safe at cold blow lane..Millwall play about 1/2 a mile away form there now :)

Actually I've been to Millwall a few times, and unless you are a club their lot are "up for it" for, there's no problems.


As to having no sympathy for people who've been stabbed, all I can say is as bad as their fans can be, the vast majority are normal fans just like at any other club. If it was one of them that got stabbed then there's no way you can say they 'deserved' it.

Having been to Ferencvaros before I'm not remotely surprised there was trouble. One end of their ground was a throwback to the early 80s with skinheads in bomber jackets, doc martens etc.

It's quite surprising how little has been made of this on the news. I'm sure if Millwall fans had stabbed four Hungarians then we'd be reading about it in the front few pages of the tabloids.

[Mobile]

you'd be pretty safe at cold blow lane..Millwall play about 1/2 a mile away form there now :)

Actually I've been to Millwall a few times, and unless you are a club their lot are "up for it" for, there's no problems.



I'd agree with this. Never went to the Den but I've been to the New Den 3 times and never had any bother (although the surrounding area looks like it was bombed in the Blitz and never been touched since).

I've had far worse experiences at places like Burnely, Swansea and Rotherham than at Millwall.

[Fradika]

The stabbings are a shame regardless of who provoked who, because after all, isnt this just a sport? Supporters of both clubs have their fair share of hooligans so I am not suprised that this happened. I suspect no Hungarians were stabbed because Millwall supporters couldn't take their shanks on the airplanes, thus were unarmed.

From people who were at the game I have heard the atmosphere was actually quite good. There was no hard feeling between the teams and after the game, Fradi supporters gave Millwall a standing ovation. Statements given by the managers after the game also gave no indication that there was anything wrong, so i was really suprised by the public accusations of certain Millwall officials. I think Ferencvaros officials exercised due diligence and used reasonable care in all aspects the extent of which is proved by the fact that there were no incidents inside.

Anyways, everybody got what they wanted i guess. The people who went to support their club and watch a good game did just that. The morons who went there to cause trouble also did just that. Unfortunate. Maybe they should outlaw alcohol and pocket knives?

[Wide Boy]

I was last at Cold Blow Lane to see Newcastle absolutely thrashed 4-0 in the old (or "proper") first division, back in the late 1980s.

The Newcastle section was full, so I stood with the Millwall fans on the big terrace down one side of the pitch. As Newcastle did absolutely nothing worth cheering for, I had no problem in keeping my allegiance secret.

They did seem a good-natured lot, but I daresay it might have been different if we had been winning 4-0.

When I have been to the New Den I have found the atmosphere to be boisterous, but not threatening.