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Mani
26 Sep 2004, 12:02 PM
The film Turtles Can Fly directed by Iranian Bahman Ghobadi, portraying Iraqi villagers facing the approach of war, has won the top prize at Spain's prestigious San Sebastian International Film Festival. more... (http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=107ABC97-8CE6-44EB-8D1C4CB512733069&title=Iranian%20Director's%20Film%20Wins%20Spanish%20Festival%20Top%20Prize%20&catOID=45C9C784-88AD-11D4-A57200A0CC5EE46C&categoryname=Arts%20%26%20Culture)

the_13th_redneck
26 Sep 2004, 03:37 PM
These films always win awards.
Make a film about guys risking their butts for their country and you get put down for making a "propaganda piece."
Make a film about guys leaving their countrymen to do the fighting and dying and running away while making some poetic justification for it and it wins an award.
Europeans...

Mani
26 Sep 2004, 03:52 PM
These films always win awards.
Make a film about guys risking their butts for their country and you get put down for making a "propaganda piece."
Make a film about guys leaving their countrymen to do the fighting and dying and running away while making some poetic justification for it and it wins an award.
Europeans...

LOL :D

nekounam
26 Sep 2004, 03:57 PM
These films always win awards.
Make a film about guys risking their butts for their country and you get put down for making a "propaganda piece."

Do movies like "Saving Private Ryan" and "Black Hawk Down" not ring a bell?You couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, I'd very confidently go as far as saying that the exact opposite claim has greater merit.

the_13th_redneck
26 Sep 2004, 04:09 PM
I actually meant in European rating circles because that's what we were talking about.

Do movies like "Saving Private Ryan" and "Black Hawk Down" not ring a bell?You couldn't be further from the truth. In fact, I'd very confidently go as far as saying that the exact opposite claim has greater merit.

nekounam
26 Sep 2004, 05:24 PM
It's true in so far as Europeans have shown a greater historical appreciation for the more humane aspects of the "arts".

the_13th_redneck
26 Sep 2004, 06:29 PM
Hippies :)

Mani
26 Sep 2004, 08:12 PM
Hippies :)
Since when appreciating arts and culture makes you "Hippies" :D

the_13th_redneck
26 Sep 2004, 09:37 PM
My apologies... I guess not even hippies deserved to be insulted that badly LOL just kidding.
I'm just puzzed at large parts of Europe. They's multilingual, rather well educated yet so surprisingly useless. Doesn't apply to Germany and England for some odd reason.

Since when appreciating arts and culture makes you "Hippies" :D

nekounam
26 Sep 2004, 09:41 PM
You probably have a very skewed definition of "useful". Once you've appropriately modified it, you won't come back to same mental intersection.

Power_of_foot
27 Sep 2004, 12:34 AM
Good!

The film Turtles Can Fly directed by Iranian Bahman Ghobadi, portraying Iraqi villagers facing the approach of war, has won the top prize at Spain's prestigious San Sebastian International Film Festival. more... (http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?objectID=107ABC97-8CE6-44EB-8D1C4CB512733069&title=Iranian%20Director's%20Film%20Wins%20Spanish%20Festival%20Top%20Prize%20&catOID=45C9C784-88AD-11D4-A57200A0CC5EE46C&categoryname=Arts%20%26%20Culture)

the_13th_redneck
27 Sep 2004, 01:55 AM
Useful as in getting anything done.
They're so bad at it.

You probably have a very skewed definition of "useful". Once you've appropriately modified it, you won't come back to same mental intersection.

nekounam
27 Sep 2004, 11:42 AM
As in getting "what" done? Be very specific, don't type in unmasked rhetoric.

the_13th_redneck
27 Sep 2004, 03:08 PM
Work.
Now you want me to define that as well???

nekounam
27 Sep 2004, 04:27 PM
That's exactly what's required. Stop throwing blanketed words around unless you can link them to something concrete. Eventually, you'll realize how wayward and ludicrous your original statement was. So, where were we... oh, right...what's your measure of work and productivity? What does this measure include and preclude and why?

the_13th_redneck
27 Sep 2004, 06:06 PM
pfft whatever. You know what I mean.
Or do I have to define "mean?"