Iran's basketball team dominating [R]

[persiantiger]

1st game
Iran 84 Japan 50

Sep 14, 2004 - by Mahin Gorgy
Iran 84 Japan 50
18-18 / 17-4 / 23 – 12 / 26 - 16
Who can beat Iran when they have such a great boy under the hoop? In the first day of the 18th Asian Junior championship Jabber did a great job for Iran and lead them to record an historical victory over Japan: 84 – 50. It is for the first time that Iran swept Japan with 34 points distance so far.
Japan started surprisingly while they shocked Iran with their shoots, they dominated the court for the first five minutes but when Iran changed its defense system and put them under pressure, would backed to the game and won at the end. In this victory Jabber did his mission very well, scored 39 points, 10 rebounds while his close friend Ali Baheran (son of Jabber’s lawyer) added 13 points.
The best players in the other side are Kawamura who scored 12 while Arao added him 12 as well

jabber is that 7 '6' giant that we had a thread on earlier btw

game 2
IRAN 94 - Kyrgyzstan 62

And that was without the best players including Jaber. They sat out

game 3
IRAN 76 - Taiwan 56
(jabber Riuzbahani 31, Davit 18, Mohammedreza 10)
With 3 wins, we advanced to the next round at the top of the group.


At the end China, Iran, Lebanon and India got the top points in the first round. According to the draw
The 8 top teams shoulp play in this form:
GROUP - I : China, Chinese Taipie, Lebanon and Hong Kong China
GROUP - II : Kazakhstan, Iran, India and Korea
So the 3rd and 4th teams also has been drawn for the rank 9 to 16 as fellow:
GROUP - III : Saudu Arabia, Kyrgystan, Philippines and Qatar
GROUP - IV : Singapore, Japan, Kuwait and Yemen

[shenhua]

1st game
Iran 84 Japan 50

Sep 14, 2004 - by Mahin Gorgy
Iran 84 Japan 50
18-18 / 17-4 / 23 – 12 / 26 - 16
Who can beat Iran when they have such a great boy under the hoop? In the first day of the 18th Asian Junior championship Jabber did a great job for Iran and lead them to record an historical victory over Japan: 84 – 50. It is for the first time that Iran swept Japan with 34 points distance so far.
Japan started surprisingly while they shocked Iran with their shoots, they dominated the court for the first five minutes but when Iran changed its defense system and put them under pressure, would backed to the game and won at the end. In this victory Jabber did his mission very well, scored 39 points, 10 rebounds while his close friend Ali Baheran (son of Jabber’s lawyer) added 13 points.


The best players in the other side are Kawamura who scored 12 while Arao added him 12 as well

jabber is that 7 '6' giant that we had a thread on earlier btw

game 2
IRAN 94 - Kyrgyzstan 62

And that was without the best players including Jaber. They sat out

game 3
IRAN 76 - Taiwan 56
(jabber Riuzbahani 31, Davit 18, Mohammedreza 10)
With 3 wins, we advanced to the next round at the top of the group.


You can't be good if you only beat taipei china by 20 points

[Mani]

You can't be good if you only beat taipei china by 20 points

Iran 84 - South Korea 68

Iran is in the semi-final! :)

Jaber Rouzbahani scored most of Iran's points

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/jaber/jaber010.jpg

[Elliad]

Iran 84 - South Korea 68

Iran is in the semi-final! :)

Sheesh, how low Korea has fallen. Losing to Iran -_-

[Mani]

Sheesh, how low Korea has fallen. Losing to Iran -_-
The same Iran that has beaten Korea in Basketball, Football,
Volleyball, Water Polo...in the last 6 months! ;)

[Txtriathlete]

Sheesh, how low Korea has fallen. Losing to Iran -_-

You know... thats a good point. South Korea must have fallen VERY low to lose to Iran... and you know why? because look at what you have available to your athletes... you are a capitalistic society in Korea, however poor Iranians dont even have good facilities to train in, let alone develop thier game and skills. You must really suck to lose to the Iranians... Oh Im sorry was that your point? or did you have a better one?

[Elliad]

You know... thats a good point. South Korea must have fallen VERY low to lose to Iran... and you know why? because look at what you have available to your athletes... you are a capitalistic society in Korea, however poor Iranians dont even have good facilities to train in, let alone develop thier game and skills. You must really suck to lose to the Iranians... Oh Im sorry was that your point? or did you have a better one?

Oh, I dunno. To be serious I don't know how good Iran is in basketball, but maybe you could tell me the recent achievements of Iranian men's basketball team? All I know is that Korea has traditionally been a powerhouse in both men and women's basketball in Asia, winning the 2000 AG beating China in a nail-biter, and then losing to China in the finals of some tournament thus failing to qualify for the last Olympic. So I've been under this impression that the only nemesis for Korea in Men's basketball is China - and now I read that Korea couldn't even make it to the Semi's, losing to Iran. So was there anything wrong in what I've said before?

Anyways, what tournament is this? I've been trying to find out some news about it, but there's nothing on the Korean news sites. Ah wait, Junior Championships eh, I suppose Korea's upcoming youths aren't upto the standard yet. Good going to Iran, then.

[yzf_bloodhound]

The same Iran that has beaten Korea in Basketball, Football,
Volleyball, Water Polo...in the last 6 months! ;)
taekwando, judo, and freestyle wrestling are on the way too..hehehe

[Txtriathlete]

Oh, I dunno. To be serious I don't know how good Iran is in basketball, but maybe you could tell me the recent achievements of Iranian men's basketball team? All I know is that Korea has traditionally been a powerhouse in both men and women's basketball in Asia, winning the 2000 AG beating China in a nail-biter, and then losing to China in the finals of some tournament thus failing to qualify for the last Olympic. So I've been under this impression that the only nemesis for Korea in Men's basketball is China - and now I read that Korea couldn't even make it to the Semi's, losing to Iran. So was there anything wrong in what I've said before?

Anyways, what tournament is this? I've been trying to find out some news about it, but there's nothing on the Korean news sites. Ah wait, Junior Championships eh, I suppose Korea's upcoming youths aren't upto the standard yet. Good going to Iran, then.

I agree. there are always new comers and no one can stay on top for ever. Just like Jordan who none of the traditional powers in Asia could beat in the AC. Japan, nor Korea could beat them. Its a question of periods. But failing to recognize a winner is just plain arrogance.

Teams improve and you should recognize them when they do. Saying its a shame cause we lost doest mean your team performed poorly but perhaps they were out performed by the competition.

[cakrabirawa]

Anyways, what tournament is this? I've been trying to find out some news about it, but there's nothing on the Korean news sites.

try FIBA.COM, but sometimes news about that competition in that site late to up date though

[persiantiger]

Asia's official basketball site is this
http://www.asia-basket.com/
they have all the news and scores...

btw way to go iran we have defeated all of our opponents by 20+ points! :eek:

[woorijim]

A single win doesn't give Iran superiority over Korea in basketball. :)

Korea is a traditional powerhouse in basketball along with China. Korean women's team won a silver in 1984 olympics and was also the semi-finalists in 2000 Sydney olympics.

Iran may have produced some strong performances against other Asian teams, but they won't perform that well "constantly" unless they set up a proper professional league. If I am not mistaken, most of current Iranian players who play for Iran are second or third generation US citizens.

On the other hand, S.Korea has got the most successful basketball leagues in Asia both in men's and women's. The average occupancy rates in the stadium for KBL, men's basketball league, exceeded over 70% in 2002. In terms of occupancy rates, KBL is the most attended sporting event in Korea. K-league doesn't even come close to that figure.

The women's league, WKBL, is rated 2nd in the world behind WNBL in terms of salaries and financial stability of the clubs. As a matter of fact, WKBL has got some top WNBL players in the league. This could happen because WKBL starts a season earlier than WNBL. One Korean club even acquired last year's WNBL player of the year..

Here's a random picture taken from a KBL match.

http://www.worldstadiums.com/stadium_pictures/asia/south_korea/seoul/seoul_jamsil_arena.jpg

[woorijim]

The same Iran that has beaten Korea in Basketball, Football,
Volleyball, Water Polo...in the last 6 months! ;)

I didn't know Korea played Water Polo in the past...:)

Yes, Iran is really becoming a powerhouse in Volleyball, thanks to the Korean coach who developed the foundation in Iran all by himself. But I am glad he's getting some good results. His efforts have come to fruition at last.

[Mani]

A single win doesn't give Iran superiority over Korea in basketball. :)
True!

Iran may have produced some strong performances against other Asian teams, but they won't perform that well "constantly" unless they set up a proper professional league.
We do have a professional league and our youth team has been doing well constantly for 2 years now.

If I am not mistaken, most of current Iranian players who play for Iran are second or third generation US citizens.
No they are not, only two of them ( Jaber Rouzbahani and Hamid Haddadi ) were trained by American NBA coaches

Yes, Iran is really becoming a powerhouse in Volleyball, thanks to the Korean coach who developed the foundation in Iran all by himself. But I am glad he's getting some good results. His efforts have come to fruition at last.

Iran's head coach Mr. Kim has helped Iran's Volleyball alot but I wouldn't go as far as saying "Mr. Kim developed the foundation of Volleyball in Iran". Iran was a Volleyball powerhouse before the Iranian revolution. Actually we were powerhouses in many sports before the revolution. Just look at the 1974 Asian Games medal table and you'll see that we won more medals then than both Korea and China. ( we were 2nd after Japan in 70s ) Our sport was just not a national priority for many years because of the revolution and Iran-Iraq war and now our sport is a national priority once again and is picking up where it was left in 70s. Iranian culture encourages sports . So one should not be surprised with these successes.

[Mani]

Oh, I dunno. To be serious I don't know how good Iran is in basketball, but maybe you could tell me the recent achievements of Iranian men's basketball team?

Asia-basket.com - The regaining Silver medallists of the Asian Juniors, Iran put up a commendable performance on Sunday beating Korea- 84-68 in the Group match of the 18th Asian Basketball Confederation Championship at Bangalore. The stadium packed with supporters from both countries witnessed the match.

There was a psychological advantage for Iran with 7 feet 3 inches tall Jaber Rouzbahani in their line up. Korean’s try to penetrate in and found towering Rouzbahani difficult to beat. However they could pick some personal fouls from him. Iran over ruled in all the departments in scoring 26 points against 14 by Korea. The second half saw a total change. The absence of Rouzbahani, who was taken out due to fouls helped Korea to come back to the game scoring 22 points against 18 of Iran. The Scoreboard read at 44-36 in favor of Iran. Korean team pressed hard in the Second half. Introduction Rouzbahani into the floor saw match being taken away from Korea.

http://nbadraft.net/profiles/jaber/jaber005.jpg

[shenhua]

Just look at the 1974 Asian Games medal table and you'll see that we won more medals then than both Korea and China. ( we were 2nd after Japan in 70s

Dude that was in Tehran. When the AG were held in Beijing we had 183 Gold medals. And we were $h!t back in 1990.

[Saudi64]

I never heard of Iranian basket, actually i dont know much in Asian basket, but I know that Qatar are pretty good, even Saudi Arabia is turning pretty good, its devloping quickly, and we even won the Gulf Cup last night. :p But i dont think we are the best in Asia, I cant really compare, cuz i dont know the power of the rest.

[Txtriathlete]

Iran may have produced some strong performances against other Asian teams, but they won't perform that well "constantly" unless they set up a proper professional league. If I am not mistaken, most of current Iranian players who play for Iran are second or third generation US citizens.



Yes you are mistaken.

[persiantiger]

Ok woorjim, I see that tri and mani have gotten most of the stuff covered let me just add that yes we do have a proffesional league where a couple of americans play in too(lol i didn't know americans played in any teams in iran) our league is one of the best in asia and sanam I believe won the asian leagues title last time.

[Mani]

Dude that was in Tehran. When the AG were held in Beijing we had 183 Gold medals. And we were $h!t back in 1990.
Well I think we were 3rd and 4th in medal tables both in 1970 and 1978 Asian Games as well. My point is that our sport is nowhere close to where it was in 1970's. Had there not been a revolution in Iran in 1979 and a 8 year long war with Iraq from 1981 to 1989, I can assure you that we would by now be way ahead of many Asian countries. And also don't forget that Iran is a country of 70 million people with an overall 20 million dollar sport budget ( 5 million dollars of which goes to Football Federation ) which is not on the same scale as China, Korea or Japan's billion dollar investments in sports :)

P.S: Did you know that International Olympic Committee (IOC) had designated Tehran, Iran as the host of 1984 Olympics in 1978. But because of the Iranian revolution the IOC later in 1979 changed the host city from Tehran to Los Angeles.