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Cantona
16 Sep 2002, 01:22 AM
Fox Sports World screws it up again....

they get one of the top leagues in the world
and who do they get to do the commentary...
a forth rate Bretos....

cmon Fox ... yes you get these leagues on the
cheap... but lets invest in making these broadcasts
exciting with a level of commentary that excites
the true football fan... enough of this garbage
of Bretos and Hopkins....

per some previous threads .. i hope they BOTH
go to ESPN... I hope all the MLS heads enjoy them
over Jack.... since I dont watch, i really dont care

maybe this will let Fox show feeds from SKY or
their international feed....

I would rather pay for the broken-english
commentary we had on PPV last season for La
Liga than endure another cookie cut broadcast
of Bretos and co with their impish jokes...

enough fox.. enough....
get some class....


before it comes... ** eurosnob ** on...


Cantona---

otterulz
16 Sep 2002, 01:39 AM
Hell, I'm just happy that they carry La Liga now. Plus I like Bretos. He's so enthusiastic.

Jayhawk
16 Sep 2002, 02:08 AM
I miss the days when ESPN showed La Liga every Monday afternoon (and yes, I like most of ESPN's commentators, sue me). Here's a question, why doesn't some US television outlet pick up Serie friggin' A? Hasn't anyone thought that might be slightly more interesting than Argentina or Brasil or (dare I risk it) Scotland?

sanariot
16 Sep 2002, 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Jayhawk

Here's a question, why doesn't some US television outlet pick up Serie friggin' A? Hasn't anyone thought that might be slightly more interesting than Argentina or Brasil or (dare I risk it) Scotland?

I don't know why Serie A isn't on nationally. Luckily for me, they show live matches here on local TV every Sunday though.

anderson
16 Sep 2002, 02:40 AM
Originally posted by Jayhawk
... Here's a question, why doesn't some US television outlet pick up Serie friggin' A? ...The International Channel carries a Serie A match on Sundays at 5 pm ET. They had Juventus x Atalanta today (2/16). I believe it's the same game that RAI International has earlier in the day, since that's the logo in the corner of the screen.

SportBoy321
16 Sep 2002, 03:32 AM
I can't believe their are people out there who don't like Max's play by play. I practically idolize that guy. Oh well can't please everyone I guess. Keep up the great work Max don't listen to the critics.

FootyMundo
16 Sep 2002, 08:20 AM
The critics can go %$(^$() themselves. Bretos does a nice job and we are lucky even to have FSW.

GoDC
16 Sep 2002, 08:41 AM
Bretos is the best that Fox has. Be thankful they are not subjecting you to Christian Miles or Allen Hopkins for La Liga.

total_football
16 Sep 2002, 09:48 AM
What is the big deal with Bretos? He seems to do a fine job, I think; he's really enthusiastic, witty and knowledgeable. What do you want, instead?

Dr. Wankler
16 Sep 2002, 09:56 AM
Unbelievable. FSW shows La Liga, and people still find something to gripe about.

If it bothers you, turn the sound down and put on a CD or something.

That said, I still wish they'd use Toby Charles on their Bundesliga telecasts. But given a choice between one of the FSW house commentators or no Bundesliga, I'll take the FSW guys anytime.

Northside Rovers
16 Sep 2002, 10:07 AM
I was GLAD to hear Mad Max doing the games. I will watch MORE of them because he is calling them. He is great.

Originally posted by Dr. Wankler
Unbelievable. FSW shows La Liga, and people still find something to gripe about.

Like the guy who wins the $50 million lottery and complains about the taxes.

Originally posted by Dr. Wankler
That said, I still wish they'd use Toby Charles on their Bundesliga telecasts.

Is he still doing them somewhere? I agree - he is fun to listen to - like a gently rolling stream.

Frieslander
16 Sep 2002, 10:07 AM
I like Max. I'm dissapointed that they dropped the Eredivisie. But it's obvious that La Liga is the better and more popular league and it should be fun to watch this season. Remember what life was like before FSW? We are living in the age of enlightenment.

lazaro
16 Sep 2002, 10:15 AM
Max is the man. He knows the players, has a good feel for the league, and, unlike most US announcers, has a clue about foreign culture. Most importatnly, he enjoys the little stuff, like when that Mallorca guy tried to chip Caballero (the Celta keeper) from midfield and Caballero, upping the ante, chested it down rather than recognizing the quality of the attempt by catching it with his hands. Max was all over what happened, and loved it.

Do your thing, kid.

Dr. Wankler
16 Sep 2002, 10:36 AM
Originally posted by Northside Rovers
Is he still doing them somewhere? I agree - he is fun to listen to - like a gently rolling stream.

Once or twice last year, FSW's audio wasn't ideal, and you could hear Toby in the background. Just like you can occasionally hear Spanish in the background of the Argentinian matches. I assume they get the audio feeds with the visuals, and sometimes they don't turn them down far enough when they do their voiceovers. It's pretty funny, because they'll occasionally pretend like the background noise is the commentator in the next booth.

abw
16 Sep 2002, 11:10 AM
I think Toby Charles does pbp for ISPR, which markets Bundesliga matches.

http://www.ispr.com/pages/business/tvkoord/dfbl/technik.htm

DennisM
16 Sep 2002, 11:56 AM
Who was the guy who did the FSWE broadcasts of the Bundesliga last year? He was good and unlike the rest of the announcers he allowed silence on his part. Sometimes it's great just to hear the crowd.

bert patenaude
16 Sep 2002, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by Frieslander
I like Max. I'm dissapointed that they dropped the Eredivisie. But it's obvious that La Liga is the better and more popular league and it should be fun to watch this season. Remember what life was like before FSW? We are living in the age of enlightenment.

I cannot agree with you more. I feel that I'm at an unlimited banquet after starving for many years.

FlashMan
16 Sep 2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by bert patenaude


I cannot agree with you more. I feel that I'm at an unlimited banquet after starving for many years.

Did you see that 2nd goal by Celta yesterday. Increible!!

I was watching with the sound off however, so I couldn't hear Max' call.

Max must know more international players per square inch than just about anyone out there.

Native Aztexan
16 Sep 2002, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by FlashMan
I was watching with the sound off however, so I couldn't hear Max' call.

Max must know more international players per square inch than just about anyone out there.
I thought Max did a great job. He certainly brings joy, life and enthusiasm back into the game IMO. I can't believe some people are being such a tight A@# about him.
Originally posted by FlashMan

Did you see that 2nd goal by Celta yesterday. Increible!!

That was awesome. The funny about that match was after he (Jesuli) scored his second goal, he celebrated by hugging the fans and was sent off on a second bookable offence (his first caution was ironically for taking his shirt off on his first goal celebration). The referee was like Monty Python: "Awww, you're no fun anymore!!" :)

BTW Was it me but does the referee looked like Andy Kaufman.

sjjn
16 Sep 2002, 02:45 PM
I like Max and Hopkins, but no-one will ever call La Liga like Mike Hill and Eddie Mighten..those guys are my favorite announcing team.

Understanding + Understatement=a great call.