Bretos does La Liga....

[Ian Lozada]

Originally posted by Cantona
Fox Sports World screws it up again....

they get one of the top leagues in the world
and who do they get to do the commentary...
a fourth rate Bretos....


Ingrate.

[RhinosBoy21]

I agree with Cantona, Max Bretos is an idiot and makes the game worse. Putting a CD and putting the TV on mute is just retarted.

Hes always late to call on plays, he mistakes players and he knows nothing about the clubs. Atleast a couple times a game hes speechless, he doesn't know what to say so the tv is silent anyways, I still watch, but the coverage could be better.

Amazingly enough, all Bretos supporters seem to be Americans, interesting...

[FlashMan]

Originally posted by RhinosBoy21
Amazingly enough, all Bretos supporters seem to be Americans, interesting...

Interesting how?

[GoatBoy]

Originally posted by RhinosBoy21
Putting a CD and putting the TV on mute is just retarted.



Oh, man, that is my favorite way to watch soccer on FSW! You just have to pick the right CD.

I guess I'm retarded (even though I know how to spell the word).

[fidlerre]

Originally posted by RhinosBoy21
I agree with Cantona, Max Bretos is an idiot and makes the game worse. Putting a CD and putting the TV on mute is just retarted.

Hes always late to call on plays, he mistakes players and he knows nothing about the clubs. Atleast a couple times a game hes speechless, he doesn't know what to say so the tv is silent anyways, I still watch, but the coverage could be better.

Amazingly enough, all Bretos supporters seem to be Americans, interesting...

and i am sure you could do a much better job...

good grief, be happy we have it to watch.

think what life would be like without FSW.

[Tejas]

Bravo Max. Keep it up FSW. Happen to like the job Allen Hopkins does as well.

[Cantona]

i quizzed about 30 or so of our regulars who
religiously play soccer and watch it down our
local drinking hole....

The majority could not stand Bretos...but would
tolerate him because of the other possible
announcers...

the only ones that liked Bretos were about 4
college age kids... who library of football
commentators was limited to Jack and Ty...

and before someone says they are all expats from
the uk... only 2 were... most of them were of
hispanic origin ...

so i dont think the the response of all the pro max
posts are anywhere near reflective of the actual
viewership... moreso of the 18-25yr old college age
kiddos who think the mls is the best league in the
world...


Cantona---

[odg78]

I don't have anything to say I just wanted to complain.

[jjayg]

I am 32 years old and have been following soccer mostof my life and I like Max. I think he is a fan of the game and understands it very well. He seems very knowledgable to me concerning the players and the teams.

It's a free world, everybody is entitled to their opinion.

Cantona can think Max is an idiot and that's his right.

The rest of us can like Max and think Cantona is an idiot and that's fine too.

I'm thrilled to finally have La Liga regularly on FSW.

[Elwood]

Max Bretos is the best FSW 'dub' announcer there is.

That's really sad.

He ruined many a Serie A match for me season before last, when I stopped listening to him.

Of course now I have digital cable (via Comcast) instead of satellite (via DirecTV) due to some other life factors, so my FSW is of the Spanish variety. I don't speak but about 10 words of Spanish, and I can say that I enjoy my FSW a whole lot more now than when I had to listen to Bretos and Miles call games. Neither are bad guys, but neither should be calling soccer for money.

I was always torn between who was worse, Bretos or Edwards. I think I decided on Edwards, simply because he was on ESPN, so more people heard him. But I found it a whole lot easier to listen to Edwards.

I can say that I enjoy a Peruvian match commented in Spanish a whole lot more than Serie A matches commented by Bretos, regardless of the quality of play. There's something to be said for atmosphere, which doesn't usually need to be created in soccer matches. The crowd does that well enough, especially in larger leagues. Bretos (and Edwards) have a habit of drowning out that atmosphere with their overexuberance and, in Bretos' case, the attempt to pronounce EVERY SINGLE NAME as if he were a native of whichever country the player is from.

[Cantona]

agreed...

american announcers seem to try too hard to
create an atmosphere ... when in actuallity
it is there... enough of your screaming...

the best call in football
spanish or english...

one nil........

bretos attempts at placating to his psuedo
audience...
argentinian.... the goool call..
italian cup..... over the top pronounciations
uefa cup....... all of the above..
french.......... gallic accent..

its sounds good for the college kids here with the
computer that are responding... but fox is really
losing it.. when they could be gaining..

personally.... i think max knows football... i just
think he should be the halftime show... NOT the
play-by-play....

Sky Sports has La Liga... do the right thing...
use their feed....

Cantona---

[Soccerholic]

Originally posted by GoDC
Bretos is the best that Fox has. Be thankful they are not subjecting you to Christian Miles or Allen Hopkins for La Liga.

Agreed.

[Soccerholic]

Originally posted by Cantona

Sky Sports has La Liga... do the right thing...
use their feed...


Is their feed in English or Spanish?

[anderson]

Originally posted by fidlerre
... think what life would be like without FSW. I did just that today. Came home and found that the channel on my cable system that normally carries FSW was instead carrying ABC Family. Terrifying. And showing a 7th Heaven marathon - even more terrifying. No FSW anywhere. The cable company apparently just screwed up for a bit when they were figuring out how to add the Food Network to their lineup. Anyway, FSW is now back on, but lemme tell ya man, those were some frightening moments there. I had flashbacks to the dark ages when we had only SIN and Soccer Made in Germany.



I also like Max and Allen well enough. They're obviously young and still learning their craft, but they've been improving over the last couple years.

I'm also surprised that people dislike Max's efforts to pronounce players' names correctly. He may not always get it right, but I like the effort.

Allen also tries hard with the Brazilian Portuguese pronunciations. I grew up speaking Brazilian Portuguese at home and it was really painful to hear some of the Brit commentators on the English-language feed for the Brazilian games. FSW used those audio feeds until a couple years ago when Allen started doing the games.

[BazoDee!]

I used to watch Fox Sports NY's EPL highlights show a couple years back with Lionel Bienvenue and he did a better job than Bray-tos, IMHO. When Max joined the crew and they were commentating, Lionel just stole the show. He was fluid, charismatic, and very knowledgeable (not to mention authoritative, since he actually played football somewhere in England). Max was the exact antithesis. Sitting next to Lionel, he looked and sounded so stiff. He reminds me of the old guy from "Murphy Brown" (Jim, I believe.)

Wherever he is (I heard that he's somewhere in the Mid-West), Bring back Bienvenue!

[BazoDee!]

Christian Bozzo is alright by me. I'd rather have him do it alone.

[Dees Nuts]

how many leagues does bretos play-by-play for? 4 or five? he does a good job, consodering how many players and leagues he has to keep up with.

[Dees Nuts]

Originally posted by Cantona

so i dont think the the response of all the pro max
posts are anywhere near reflective of the actual
viewership... moreso of the 18-25yr old college age
kiddos who think the mls is the best league in the
world...


i question the sophistication of any fan who let's their la liga viewing be ruined by an announcer. you a two-year-old waiting for somebody to read "dick and jane" out loud, or you a soccer fan, man?

[Northside Rovers]

Originally posted by Elwood
... and, in Bretos' case, the attempt to pronounce EVERY SINGLE NAME as if he were a native of whichever country the player is from.

Yeah, where does he get off trying to pronounce player names correctly. The nerve! The arrogance!

[Cantona]

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i question the sophistication of any fan who let's their la liga viewing be ruined by an announcer. you a two-year-old waiting for somebody to read "dick and jane" out loud, or you a soccer fan, man?

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yes "dude"

my college kid analysis seems vindicated.


Cantona---