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soccerphan
09 Sep 2004, 08:32 PM
In the States, everyone knows how much the Red Sox and Yankees hate each other and have been rivals for 100 years.
Help a yank out. Which two teams in the EPL , in your opinion, have the best, most intense and heated rivaly?
Also, since Everton is quite honestly, the only EPL team I am familiar with except for the internationally know Man u and Arsenal of course, who are the biggest rivals of Everton?
Btw, I was pretty much a casual soccer fan unitl a few years ago, I saw an Everton game on TV. Watching the caliber of play in that game really got me juiced and I started attending Metro Stars games more and more. You brits are so freakin lucky to have the EPL. I wish MLS was half as good.
cheers
mike
Colm
09 Sep 2004, 09:29 PM
he are some of the biggest local derbies in the premiership.
Everton vs Liverpool
Tottenham vs Arsenal
Man Utd vs Man City
Southampton vs Portsmouth
Aston Villa vs Birmingham City
DevilDave
09 Sep 2004, 11:35 PM
Well the above are some of the fiercest derbies in the Premier League in terms of past history and pure hatred.
IMO, though, the BoSox-Yanks rivalry is not just that the teams and fans hate each other, but also that they've been able to field some of the most talented teams to play the game of baseball.
If you factor in quality of the current teams as well as proximity and past history in the Premier League, you need to include:
Liverpool vs Man Utd
Arsenal vs Chelsea
United Forever
10 Sep 2004, 08:17 AM
Liverpool vs Man Utd
I am going to be waiting for this one! Beware pool scum when it comes! :D
erictheking
10 Sep 2004, 08:38 AM
Newcastle v Middlesbrough
KopThat!
12 Sep 2004, 04:52 AM
Liverpool v Man Utd by far. Nothing else comes close.
Clan
12 Sep 2004, 06:50 AM
Liverpool v Man Utd by far. Nothing else comes close.
Nah - Arse v Spurs.
mad theory
12 Sep 2004, 09:29 AM
Arsenal vs Scum
also:
Birmingham vs Aston Villa vs West Bromich Albion
KopThat!
12 Sep 2004, 10:03 AM
No chance. Liverpool v Man Utd. Both clubs are bigger than either Arsenal or Spurs with massive worldwide support and Liverpool and Man Utd NEVER do business between each other (the last time was 40 years ago). Imagine if Gerrard went to OT. Sheesh, World War Three would break out. :eek:
mad theory
12 Sep 2004, 01:40 PM
what does club size got to do with anything?
the fans make the rivalry. and everyone knows it's arsenal vs tottenham.
mad theory
12 Sep 2004, 01:43 PM
Imagine if Gerrard went to OT. Sheesh, World War Three would break out
scousers in general don't like mancunians. but they don't exactly live in the same city.
KopThat!
13 Sep 2004, 05:43 AM
scousers in general don't like mancunians. but they don't exactly live in the same city.
Exactly, and that's the point. That's what makes the Liverpool v Man Utd rivalry different. It's like Real Madrid v Barcelona.
Liverpool have their own 'city' rivals in Everton but Man Utd is a more intense rivalry.
History shows that Liverpool and Man Utd are the two biggest, most successful and most famous English clubs with the most fans worldwide just as Barca and Madrid are in Spain.
Each club has a claim to being the greatest English club of all time and that's the root of it. It goes beyond petty city rivalries. There are Liverpool and Man Utd fans from all over the country (indeed the world) who detest the other. Man Utd fans detest Liverpool more than they do Man City and Leeds because Liverpool are still the most successful English club ever and this rankles with them while Liverpool fans hate the fact that Man Utd have always been the 'media darlings'.
There are more Man Utd and Liverpool fans ouside those two cities than inside them so it's not a 'city' thing any more. It's a country and worldwide thing. Even where I live (Isle Of Wight) it's all mainly Man Utd and Liverpool fans with the odd Arsenal and Chelsea fans now springing up.
pompeyrob
14 Sep 2004, 07:44 PM
Even where I live (Isle Of Wight) it's all mainly Man Utd and Liverpool fans with the odd Arsenal and Chelsea fans now springing up.
What a load of old tosh! Theres loads more Pompey and Southampton fans on the Isle of Wight than all them lot put together!
Although the Island does have its fair share of armchair glory hunters - who wouldnt know a turnstile if it it run up and bit them on the arse! :)
As for rivalries - Pompey v Southampton can be pretty intense.
I got off the train at Fratton and the place looked like a warzone with riot police battling with about a thousand stone and bottle throwing Portsmouth hoolies waiting for the Southampton train to arrive. There was what they call `serious public disorder` all day.
Fifty-four people are now in prison after that days events with another twenty-six cases appearing next week.
Aston Villa/Birmingham and Chelsea/Tottenham can be a bit moody aswell!
KopThat!
15 Sep 2004, 04:07 PM
[QUOTE=pompeyrob]What a load of old tosh! Theres loads more Pompey and Southampton fans on the Isle of Wight than all them lot put together!
Although the Island does have its fair share of armchair glory hunters - who wouldnt know a turnstile if it it run up and bit them on the arse! :)
Well I don't know about the head count but I'm going on shirts I see both kids and adults wearing. It seems 50/50 Man Utd and Liverpool.
pompeyrob
16 Sep 2004, 05:57 PM
Well I don't know about the head count but I'm going on shirts I see both kids and adults wearing. It seems 50/50 Man Utd and Liverpool.
Then you need to take those red-tinted specs off mate! :)
the_baron
17 Sep 2004, 03:43 PM
The best Derby in England has to be Manure V Scousers, just for sheer hatred of each other.
pompeyrob
17 Sep 2004, 04:32 PM
Baron mate, Liverpool v Man U is not a `derby` it`s a rivalry.
You`ve got the Mersyside derby - Liverpool v Everton
The Manchester derby - City v Utd
The North London derby - Spurs and the Arse
The North East derby - Sunderland v Newcastle
The Midlands derby - Villa v Birmingham
and, of course the Southcoast derby - Pompey v scumhampton
Theres loads more.
Colm
19 Sep 2004, 01:46 PM
and everyone knows it's arsenal vs tottenham.as a Tottenham fan i'll agree.
the_baron
20 Sep 2004, 06:19 AM
Baron mate, Liverpool v Man U is not a `derby` it`s a rivalry.
You`ve got the Mersyside derby - Liverpool v Everton
The Manchester derby - City v Utd
The North London derby - Spurs and the Arse
The North East derby - Sunderland v Newcastle
The Midlands derby - Villa v Birmingham
and, of course the Southcoast derby - Pompey v scumhampton
Theres loads more.
Thanks for correcting me. But Mancs V Scousers is the best rivalry IMHO.
Crestofthestars
20 Sep 2004, 10:20 PM
United v Liverpool is a derby in a way. the cities are very close by.
Why is an Irishman supporting the Arsebandits anyway? United have always had the Ireland connection, originally in support and in modern times with players like Keano, O'Shea, Miller.
Who've Arsenal got? Thierry Henry? Jose Reyes??