Bush Scorecard

[Claymore]

For those of you not keeping score, I thought I'd put together this list of strikes against Bush.

1. Military record - as shown today, Bush skipped out. Maybe we'll get lucky and the neocons will call off the attack dogs in the interest of shifting debate to something more relevent. I know, stop laughing.

2. Economy - in three years, Bush and Co. have managed to turn a $155 billion surplus into a $455 billion deficit. In four years, there has been a net loss of close to a million jobs, and those few jobs being created are lower-wage jobs.

3. Terrorism - we're "safer", but we could be attacked at any moment; someone explain that one. We've bogged down our military in Iraq, where there are no terrorists, only the insurgents that Rumsfeld and Cheney somehow never saw coming. Meanwhile, the Taliban and AQ are regrouping.

I could go on, but given these three undeniable points, how does Bush deserve another term?

[Section106]

I could go on, but given these three undeniable points, how does Bush deserve another term?

So Laura can be First Lady for four more years.:)


(Bush actually said that.)

[IntheNet]

1. Military record - as shown today, Bush skipped out.

From CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/08/bush.national.ap/index.html
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Months after insisting it could find no more records of President Bush's Air National Guard service, the Defense Department has released more than two dozen pages of files, including Bush's report card for flight training and dates of his flights. The records, released under pressure of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Associated Press, show Bush ranked in the middle of his 1969 flight training class and flew 336 hours for the Texas Air National Guard, mostly in the F-102A fighter."

So if he "skipped out" according to you, how did Bush rank "in the middle of his 1969 flight training class" according to official records?

I would be more concerned about the folks that ranked lower than GWB, and that would mean approximately half the class!

IntheNet

[Claymore]

From CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/08/bush.national.ap/index.html
So if he "skipped out" according to you, how did Bush rank "in the middle of his 1969 flight training class" according to official records?
IntheNet

We're not talking about 1969, numb-nuts.

[Section106]

..So if he "skipped out" according to you, how did Bush rank "in the middle of his 1969 flight training class" according to official records? ...IntheNet


What's sad is that he is at best a "C" student even when he goes to class.

[IntheNet]

What's sad is that he is at best a "C" student...

Being President rarely requires Pilot Flight Duty and if it did; I am sure Presdient Bush would defer to someone more qualified! It does, however, require leadership, wherein George W. Bush excels!

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Bush/Cheney in 2004

[Claymore]

Being President rarely requires Pilot Flight Duty and if it did; I am sure Presdient Bush would defer to someone more qualified! It does, however, require leadership, wherein George W. Bush excels!

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Bush/Cheney in 2004
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[Section106]

Being President rarely requires Pilot Flight Duty and if it did; I am sure Presdient Bush would defer to someone more qualified! It does, however, require leadership, wherein George W. Bush excels!

IntheNet
Bush/Cheney in 2004


I think you forgot the whole flight suit, landing on the aircraft carrier, "Mission Accomplished" thing. And Bush does defer to those more qualified, like Dick Cheney on everything concerning the Presidency.

[Roel]

Agreed. But being the president does require focus on duty and a sense of responsibility. It is not that the specifics of his military or arrest records are all that relevant, but W does have a long-standing pattern of shirking responsibility.

We now know that
- he was AWOL
- he has a DWI
- he has trashed virtually every business deal he was in

We suspect that
- he has used cocaine
- he got a sweet-heart deal getting out of the military and into Harvard Business School
- he committed some level of investor fraud with Harken

As president, we have seen that he does not accept responsibility for the mistakes of his presidency.

[Yankee_Blue]

Agreed. But being the president does require focus on duty and a sense of responsibility. It is not that the specifics of his military or arrest records are all that relevant, but W does have a long-standing pattern of shirking responsibility.

We now know that
- he was AWOL
- he has a DWI
- he has trashed virtually every business deal he was in

We suspect that
- he has used cocaine
- he got a sweet-heart deal getting out of the military and into Harvard Business School
- he committed some level of investor fraud with Harken

As president, we have seen that he does not accept responsibility for the mistakes of his presidency.

And yet, it appears that, as of right now, the electorate prefers Bush over Kerry...

[Northcal19]

From CNN: http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/08/bush.national.ap/index.html
"WASHINGTON (AP) -- Months after insisting it could find no more records of President Bush's Air National Guard service, the Defense Department has released more than two dozen pages of files, including Bush's report card for flight training and dates of his flights. The records, released under pressure of a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit....
IntheNet

Does this part of your own post worry you at all?

[Northcal19]

Regarding his scorecard:

Environmentally he is disasterous. The Healthy Forest and Blue Sky initiatives attest to that.

His record on jobs creation has been worse than just about any modern day president.

Internationally, he is basically considered a dangerous moron.

[IntheNet]

Does this part of your own post worry you at all?

Have you ever worked in the Pentagon? You have any clue how hard it is to find "current" records? Try finding records two decades old! As far as specific records found after FOI request, the Defense Department found and released the records (24 pages) as requested. If you were familiar with government records, you would understand the problem here! As far as what it in the records released, I see nothing objectionable... the President never claimed to be a Top Gun fighter pilot, but he completed his Guard service; indeed he was an average flight student based on the records!

You might be specific in your charges...

IntheNet

[Northcal19]

When did these questions about his service first arise, like ten years ago? They have had years to locate the records, GWB has had years to come clean, but amazingly a FOIA lawsuit miraculously produces a few more damning documents. Hate to use the "L" word, but Dubya sure has a 'convenient' memory.

[BillQ]

Being President rarely requires Pilot Flight Duty and if it did; I am sure Presdient Bush would defer to someone more qualified! It does, however, require leadership, wherein George W. Bush excels!

IntheNet
Bush/Cheney in 2004

So leadership is required if you want to go AWOL from your NG committment? Wow, inthenet, I learn something new from you every day. :rolleyes:

[Roel]

And yet, it appears that, as of right now, the electorate prefers Bush over Kerry...

So character does not matter....? The only thing Bushco conservatives can agree on is that situational ethics are a core value.

[bitter leftie]

Can someone clarify what is going on with the status of the presidential debates? It seems the first two have been agreed on, but a 3rd that is to be held in a 'town hall' style in Missouri I believe with undecided voters asking questions is being fought by the administration. Anyone have info?
thanks

[Kelly Vargas]

Can someone clarify what is going on with the status of the presidential debates? It seems the first two have been agreed on, but a 3rd that is to be held in a 'town hall' style in Missouri I believe with undecided voters asking questions is being fought by the administration. Anyone have info?
thanks
basically, w is only going to do 2 debates because his strategist, who also set up debates for reagan and bush #1, thinks that for a president seeking reelection, less is more... They are also worried about these "undecided" voters being kerry supporters who would jump at the chance to embarrass bush.. so based on that, only doin 2 debates seems like a good plan to me

[Barbara]

basically, w is only going to do 2 debates because his strategist, who also set up debates for reagan and bush #1, thinks that for a president seeking reelection, less is more... They are also worried about these "undecided" voters being kerry supporters who would jump at the chance to embarrass bush.. so based on that, only doin 2 debates seems like a good plan to me

Strategically, maybe that's a good idea but it looks pretty crappy for the president to be scared to face the voters to whom he's accountable. What is he afraid of? Being exposed as the clueless & incompetent moron that he is? Duh. Like that's news.

[IntheNet]

Based on the latest poll, Bush is ahead of Kerry by 10 points as of today. That would mean he received an approximate 8 point bumb from his convention last week.... the "scorecard" on our President is looking great!

Go George!

IntheNet
Bush/Cheney in 2004