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IntheNet
07 Sep 2004, 07:38 AM
So it's another week and another "official Kerry position" on Iraq... Kerry NOW says that war in Iraq "...is wrong..." as he demonized his opponent's middle initial; i.e., George "Wrong" Bush... Well this Massacusetts FLIP FLOPPER needs to be taken to task... his position on the war just changes so much he has to google his name on the internet just to see what his new policy is!
Heck even his wife flip-flopped; she was a strong Repuplican until she flip-flopped to Dem... wonder why? I am pleased that our nation sees through this Kerry flip-flopping and has granted President George W. Bush strong support so that he now holds a double-digit lead over the Massachusetts flip-flopper!
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Bush/Cheney in 2004
eneste
07 Sep 2004, 08:28 AM
Flip-Flopper-In-Chief (http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263)
megathread. :rolleyes:
IntheNet
07 Sep 2004, 09:09 AM
eneste:
Kerry is the sole recipient of the Flip-Flopper Award; what's his position on Iraq as of right now?
Barbara
07 Sep 2004, 09:18 AM
eneste:
Kerry is the sole recipient of the Flip-Flopper Award; what's his position on Iraq as of right now?
It's probably more complicated than you're capable of understanding.
IntheNet
07 Sep 2004, 09:29 AM
... more complicated...
Either Kerry's for it or against it... how friggin complicated is that BarbDett? Is he parsing words yet?
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Bush/Cheney in 2004
Chris M.
07 Sep 2004, 09:33 AM
eneste:
Kerry is the sole recipient of the Flip-Flopper Award; what's his position on Iraq as of right now?
Mission Accomplished. We will win the war on terror. The war on terror can't be won. We will win the war on terror. . . . .
. . . oh wait. That wasn't Kerry now was it.
I can't believe our Commander in Chimp is getting away with calling someone else a flip-flopper, but I guess if IntheNads says it enough, it must be true.
verybdog
07 Sep 2004, 09:36 AM
IntheNet, Yes, Kerry is a Flip-Flopper. I agree.
But his flip-flopping didn't cost 1,000 soldiers and tens of thousands of Iraqis' lives in a unjust war. So what do you say?
A flip-flopper is 100 times better than a guy causing people to die for nothing.
superdave
07 Sep 2004, 09:37 AM
It's probably more complicated than you're capable of understanding.
So is the recipe for ice.
Chicago1871
07 Sep 2004, 09:40 AM
eneste:
Kerry is the sole recipient of the Flip-Flopper Award; what's his position on Iraq as of right now?
The question you want to ask, is "Is the war on terror winable?" Bush thinks so...wait, no he doesn't. Wait, yes he does... :rolleyes:
They're politicians. They pander to the populous during this time. In fact, this is the only time during a Presidential term when they listen to the people.
verybdog
07 Sep 2004, 09:42 AM
In fact, this is the only time during a Presidential term when they listen to the people.
Insightful comment!
Quaker
07 Sep 2004, 10:40 AM
It's probably more complicated than you're capable of understanding.
See, I think that's one of Kerry's big problems. Nobody knows, and the moving target doesn't help. I thought one of Bush's better lines in his convention speech went something like this: "You may not agree with me on everything, but at least you know where I stand."
I stay abreast of this stuff, and I can't articulate to you what Kerry would do differently in Iraq. He doesn't seem to want to cut and run like Howard Dean. The only real difference he seems to be offering is that he'd try to sweet-talk the French and Germans into taking our place in the coalition so some of our troops could come home. (I'll leave it up to you to decide if that idea would stand a chance.) But again, any plans he's proposed are vague at best.
Simply not being Bush isn't going to do it for Kerry. He needs to show us how his plan is better and feasible.
verybdog
07 Sep 2004, 10:45 AM
I stay abreast of this stuff, and I can't articulate to you what Kerry would do differently in Iraq. He doesn't seem to want to cut and run like Howard Dean.
"We want those troops home, and my goal would be to try to get them home in my first term," - John Kerry, speaking to a fellow Vietnam War veteran in the audience of his campaign event.
IntheNet
07 Sep 2004, 10:52 AM
"We want those troops home, and my goal would be to try to get them home in my first term," - John Kerry, speaking to a fellow Vietnam War veteran in the audience of his campaign event.
If this is kerry's goal: How?
How would Kerry bring them home?
How?
How would Kerry stabilize Iraq?
How?
How?
President Bush also wants the troops home and he is fully confident of ultimate success in Iraq but making such statements as Kerry's without a plan shows Kerry's inexperience and incompetence!
Today is Tuesday...what's Kerry's current position on Iraq War?
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Bush/Cheney in 2004
patrickdavila
07 Sep 2004, 11:11 AM
I almost pissed my pants when I saw this:
http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20040906/i/r2995855762.jpg
Now Kerry is pro gun rights?!?! All things to all people :)
superdave
07 Sep 2004, 11:11 AM
I stay abreast of this stuff, and I can't articulate to you what Kerry would do differently in Iraq. He doesn't seem to want to cut and run like Howard Dean.
This isn't true.
superdave
07 Sep 2004, 11:13 AM
Now Kerry is pro gun rights?!?! All things to all people :)
"Now" implies he's changed his position. Has he?
(Of course, it also implies the mere act of holding a non-handgun implies something about one's position on handguns, but for now, baby steps.)
Quaker
07 Sep 2004, 11:29 AM
This isn't true.
Fair enough. I guess "cut and run" does not really characterize Dean's position. Thanks for clarifying.
"We want those troops home, and my goal would be to try to get them home in my first term," - John Kerry, speaking to a fellow Vietnam War veteran in the audience of his campaign event.
Well it's nice to have a goal, but I'm more interested in a plan.
IntheNet
07 Sep 2004, 11:44 AM
I just saw the "NRA" and "Kerry" used together in the same sentence; the NRA has a very detailed vote record on its website that tracks Kerry's anti-gun positions over his entire Senate career... let me suffice by saying that Kerry is very clearly anti-second Amendment as is his cohort Kennedy, and as his record in Massachusetts demonstates... don't let his campaign produced "Sportsman" glossy photos fool anyone... this is yet another "flip-flop" from the Kerry campaign! The NRA is backing our President!
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Chicago1871
07 Sep 2004, 11:50 AM
I just saw the "NRA" and "Kerry" used together in the same sentence; the NRA has a very detailed vote record on its website that tracks Kerry's anti-gun positions over his entire Senate career... let me suffice by saying that Kerry is very clearly anti-second Amendment as is his cohort Kennedy, and as his record in Massachusetts demonstates... don't let his campaign produced "Sportsman" glossy photos fool anyone... this is yet another "flip-flop" from the Kerry campaign! The NRA is backing our President!
IntheNet
Please provide a link when you want to make a point.
Claymore
07 Sep 2004, 11:57 AM
If this is kerry's goal: How?
How would Kerry bring them home?
How?
How would Kerry stabilize Iraq?
How?
How?
President Bush also wants the troops home and he is fully confident of ultimate success in Iraq but making such statements as Kerry's without a plan shows Kerry's inexperience and incompetence!
Today is Tuesday...what's Kerry's current position on Iraq War?
IntheNet
Bush/Cheney in 2004
Goddamn, you're lazy.
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/iraq.html