Where does Rooney fit in at ManU?

[robchap628]

I know any team could always use a player like Rooney, but with Saha and Van Nielsteroy coming back and Adam Smith playing the way he is,and since Solskjaer is going to be back eventually, and Diego Forlan should be ready as well. It seems that instead of spending a ridiculous amount of money on Rooney, ManU could gain more by finding some quality defensive players

[Gunners11]

I know any team could always use a player like Rooney, but with Saha and Van Nielsteroy coming back and Adam Smith playing the way he is,and since Solskjaer is going to be back eventually, and Diego Forlan should be ready as well. It seems that instead of spending a ridiculous amount of money on Rooney, ManU could gain more by finding some quality defensive players


A couple of things, first off, it's Alan Smith, so you might wanna fix that. Secondly, I see your point, it seems like ManU will be on striker-overload once they escape from their injury problems. I mean having three first team strikers isn't necessarily bad. I mean look at Arsenal, there have been matches this season when Reyes, Henry, and Bergkamp have all been on the pitch together. And thinking back to the past summers Euro's, Saha played behind two forwards (Henry and Trezeguet), so there is the possibility of him playing behind RvN and Smith.

[Pazarius]

I know any team could always use a player like Rooney, but with Saha and Van Nielsteroy coming back and Adam Smith playing the way he is,and since Solskjaer is going to be back eventually, and Diego Forlan should be ready as well. It seems that instead of spending a ridiculous amount of money on Rooney, ManU could gain more by finding some quality defensive players

Forlan has been sold. Solskjaer is probably out injured for the season, was injured almost all of last season, and is already 31... may never be the player he once was.

To compete in the champions league, premiership, cups etc you really need 4 quality strikers. At the moment Man U only have 3; Van Nistelrooy, Smith, Saha. Rooney could be number 4. Although he's really more a signing for the next ten years than one for this season.

Man U have enough quality defensive players. Short term the defence looks shaky, but Rio will be back next month, Brown is almost fit again and Heinze should return from the olympics as soon as they've finished celebrating :)

Buying a defender you only need for a couple of weeks would be a waste of money.

[Robert25]

I know any team could always use a player like Rooney, but with Saha and Van Nielsteroy coming back and Adam Smith playing the way he is,and since Solskjaer is going to be back eventually, and Diego Forlan should be ready as well. It seems that instead of spending a ridiculous amount of money on Rooney, ManU could gain more by finding some quality defensive players

There is of course a need for players elsewhere. I'd like to a good left winger or another decent holding midfielder come in. But I think those are being pushed back for a reason.

The reason is Wayne Rooney. A player like him only comes along so often and if he goes elsewhere, the result may bite the Reds in the A** for a while. He is 18, was a star both in the EPl and Euro2004. He speaks for himself.

As for where and how often he plays? i am not sure. RVN will be out a little longer, Saha is just returning, and Smith is is top form now. I think SAF will juggle things, and get everyone their time. Remember ManU has to play in Europe as well, so the depth we have at striker, once RVN returns, will be a huge asset.

[Alan_V]

Here's a completely different viewpoint and I'm just being the devil's advocate. But would ManU buy Rooney to keep him from Newcastle? Newcastle with the addition of Rooney, could put them in front of ManU in the table. Yes he could improve them and give them increased depth up front, but as has been demonstrated, money may be better spent at the back.

[Sothis]

Personally, I think Rooney would be best served by going to Newcastle. He would have one of England's finest ever strikers to coach him and offer him advice, regardless of whether Shearer becomes manager there. Think of the benefits to England if Shearer passes on his striking skills to Rooney.

[Powdered Water]

I suppose a lot depends on how he's influenced by the coaches and evolve over time... I haven't got a clue how things will turn out.

Alos, what was that thing about Wayne Rooney's private life? I just heard on the BBC earlier that there was some tabloid story about his "embarrassing story about his private life". Does anyone know what it was about?

[megmaster821]

hey i just saw on the bbc news website that manchester utd has completed the Rooney deal for 20 million.

[El Che]

While Rooney is an outstanding player, I think his signing goes beyond just improving the team. Man U is watching Arsenal and Chelsea leave them behind as the Premiership elite and they need to do something. I think the Rooney buy is a statement that they will not be left behind.

[tomas_brolin]

i could have sworn last season rooney wanted to exchange jerseys with shearer but he refused because he said he was a p*ick or something to that nature, i could be wrong tho.

[epiChelseau]

I suppose a lot depends on how he's influenced by the coaches and evolve over time... I haven't got a clue how things will turn out.

Alos, what was that thing about Wayne Rooney's private life? I just heard on the BBC earlier that there was some tabloid story about his "embarrassing story about his private life". Does anyone know what it was about?

Rooney admits paying for sex

The Everton striker, who is currently not playing due to injury, visited the back-street brothel in Liverpool, northwest England, around 10 times, the Sunday Mirror said.

He paid STG45 pounds for each session of sex, including with a 48-year-old grandmother, dressed in a rubber cat suit.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/08/23/1093113067773.html?oneclick=true

Rooney admits to having sex with prostitutes
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/08/22/uroon.xml&sSheet=/portal/2004/08/22/ixportaltop.html

Rooney's fiancee walks out
http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articles/12753910?source=Daily%20Mail

[epiChelseau]

Rooney admits 'sex with a granny'
Wayne Rooney has admitted having sex with prostitutes after he was caught on CCTV visiting a backstreet brothel.

The 18-year-old England striker is said to have brazenly signed autographs for other punters at the vice den while waiting his turn.

Rooney reportedly had sex with a 48-year-old grandmother in a rubber catsuit and a mother-of-six dressed as a cowgirl.

He went to the massage parlour in the Liverpool suburb of Aigburth about ten times and paid £45 per visit, it was claimed.

During one visit, other punters spread the word that the Everton player was there by text message. Within minutes, 30 fans were gathered outside, chanting his name.

Yesterday, Rooney made a public apology to fans and his fiancÈe, Coleen McLoughlin, following the revelations in a Sunday newspaper. She was said to be devastated.

He said: 'Foolish as it now seems, I did on occasions visit massage parlours and prostitutes. It was at a time when I was very young and immature and before I had settled down with Coleen. I now regret it deeply and hope people may understand it was the sort of mistake you make when you are young and stupid.'

Rooney and his childhood sweetheart, also 18, got engaged last year and recently bought a £1.5million home in Formby.

Last month, they were reported to have split following claims that Rooney slept with an escort girl two years ago.

Tapes obtained by the paper showed Rooney arriving with an unnamed Liverpool player. Police raided the premises and found Rooney asleep on a sofa.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/articles/12733804?source=Metro

[robinho17]

I think Rooney will be good support for Man U. But firstly i think he is highly overated and also it was a mistake to choose Man u over Newcastle. At Manu they have to much of abundent strikers, rooney and a top goal scorer such VN..Saha who has experiance that can be a force to be reckoned with, Alan smith is a work horse and always playing 100%..then there is belion who has such potential with his speed.Rooney would of done so much better at Newcastle because sheerer is about to retire and newcaste need a young striker in who they will totaly devote to getting there goals.With that... rooney will improve his game get quality game time. Man U i think has made bad mistakes signing C.ronaldo and Rooney.C.ronaldo costed 15million? sure fun to watch he can get past defenders and thats about it.he probably the worse crosser in the game(either hits the grand stands or finds a player by there knees instead of head), has poor instinct in finding open players and was basicly the same and sporting lisbon.Rooney definitely has potential.To become the next liniker,sheerer i dont think so!He hasnt proven anything..he scored a few goals for england and everton but thats about it..it shows how everton and england has not reached anywhere in any major tournaments.If i was man u i would of get rid of half of the team and pay 70million for a player such as ronaldinho or henry.

[Powdered Water]

epiChelseau thanks for the article, hehe that's hilarious. I had no idea, but frighteningly enough I can imagine him in that situation. He looks like a playful monster doesn't he :rolleyes:

Anyway back on topic. I agree he's overrated at £30m at this point in time, but in terms of investment who knows how things will turn out in a few years time. I wonder if he'll be used here and there to ensure a careful development alongside the other older strikers? Maybe he won't be "overused" like Owen was. The only exception I suppose is if his talent really kicks in and starts playing SO well every chance he gets that it becomes impossible to keep on the bench.

To be honest though, I can't even begin to imagine how things will go. I thought he looked good when sven first played him, got hyped up and all, then he didn't look good back at Everton and the hype died out. Then as I began to doubt his potential, he suddenly started doing well again under sven in and around Euro2004. So I think anything could happen, depending on how he's guided and who he plays with etc etc etc.

[royalstilton]

I think Rooney will be good support for Man U. But firstly i think he is highly overated and also it was a mistake to choose Man u over Newcastle. At Manu they have to much of abundent strikers, rooney and a top goal scorer such VN..Saha who has experiance that can be a force to be reckoned with, Alan smith is a work horse and always playing 100%..then there is belion who has such potential with his speed.Rooney would of done so much better at Newcastle because sheerer is about to retire and newcaste need a young striker in who they will totaly devote to getting there goals.With that... rooney will improve his game get quality game time. Man U i think has made bad mistakes signing C.ronaldo and Rooney.C.ronaldo costed 15million? sure fun to watch he can get past defenders and thats about it.he probably the worse crosser in the game(either hits the grand stands or finds a player by there knees instead of head), has poor instinct in finding open players and was basicly the same and sporting lisbon.Rooney definitely has potential.To become the next liniker,sheerer i dont think so!He hasnt proven anything..he scored a few goals for england and everton but thats about it..it shows how everton and england has not reached anywhere in any major tournaments.If i was man u i would of get rid of half of the team and pay 70million for a player such as ronaldinho or henry.
i come from the land down under...oh, my!

first of all, the Maggies are toast in the EPL, Rooney or not. they may score 2 goals a game, but they will concede 3 with horrific defensive woes, so they may stay up, but they're not going to play well in Europe, and they won't make Europe for 2005-06. not a chance.

i especially love this statement: "he scored a few goals for england..."

let me see. Euro2004. england plays 4 matches. rooney tallys 4 goals.

hmmmmmmmmmmm. one goal per match. hmmmmmmmmmm. could have done better. after all baros scored 5 goals. but the czech republic played 5 matches. nevermind.

[Alan_V]

To be honest though, I can't even begin to imagine how things will go. I thought he looked good when sven first played him, got hyped up and all, then he didn't look good back at Everton and the hype died out. Then as I began to doubt his potential, he suddenly started doing well again under sven in and around Euro2004. So I think anything could happen, depending on how he's guided and who he plays with etc etc etc.

So, what you appear to be saying is that once he has some support from quality players, and doesn't have to carry the load himself........

[musicl]

When the Man U fans start singing "stand up if you hate scourcers", will they stand?

Rooney = traitor

[robinho17]

i come from the land down under...oh, my!

first of all, the Maggies are toast in the EPL, Rooney or not. they may score 2 goals a game, but they will concede 3 with horrific defensive woes, so they may stay up, but they're not going to play well in Europe, and they won't make Europe for 2005-06. not a chance.

i especially love this statement: "he scored a few goals for england..."

let me see. Euro2004. england plays 4 matches. rooney tallys 4 goals.

hmmmmmmmmmmm. one goal per match. hmmmmmmmmmm. could have done better. after all baros scored 5 goals. but the czech republic played 5 matches. nevermind.

4 goals yeh so what.The problem is England hype the kid up to much , sure he has talent and potential..but in the end where did england finish in euro 2004 or any other tournament with rooney in the team. How did everton finish in the priemiereship. England and Everton expexts him to be there saviour. at 27 million pounds he worth the like of a Ronaldo(winner of 3WC,3 world player of the yr,copa america winner numerous club trophys)Zidane(world player of the yr 3 times,Wc winner,euro..)the list goes on..manchester pay so much for players who have so much hype but produce so little...for example Forlan,Veron,christiano ronaldo.Man u should be looking for players with credentials not hype!I'll tell you a player Manu should have invested in is a guy named carlos tevez who plays for boca juniors..this guy is the real deal. 2003 south american player of the yr,copa libertadores winner 2 times, has excellent skills dribbling ,playmaking and scoring. Think of the next generation maradona.and he is still young!

[Leedsutd12]

I think Rooney will be good support for Man U. But firstly i think he is highly overated and also it was a mistake to choose Man u over Newcastle. At Manu they have to much of abundent strikers, rooney and a top goal scorer such VN..Saha who has experiance that can be a force to be reckoned with, Alan smith is a work horse and always playing 100%..then there is belion who has such potential with his speed.Rooney would of done so much better at Newcastle because sheerer is about to retire and newcaste need a young striker in who they will totaly devote to getting there goals.With that... rooney will improve his game get quality game time. Man U i think has made bad mistakes signing C.ronaldo and Rooney.C.ronaldo costed 15million? sure fun to watch he can get past defenders and thats about it.he probably the worse crosser in the game(either hits the grand stands or finds a player by there knees instead of head), has poor instinct in finding open players and was basicly the same and sporting lisbon.Rooney definitely has potential.To become the next liniker,sheerer i dont think so!He hasnt proven anything..he scored a few goals for england and everton but thats about it..it shows how everton and england has not reached anywhere in any major tournaments.If i was man u i would of get rid of half of the team and pay 70million for a player such as ronaldinho or henry.



Rooney is a boy wonder. he scored his first goal at the age of 16 and it was a brilliant goal against arsenal. he hasnt just scored a few goals, hes scored alot of goals and hes only 18. Even though Man U might have some trouble sorting out the playing time i think in the long run rooney will be and excellent addition to the team. It's alos not his fault the england or everton havnt been far in any tournaments. He scored 4 goals in 4 games at Euro what more can you expect from him and as for everton, well there midfield just plain sucks most of the time so he has no service. Rooney is a star and i think he will just keep getting better...well if he improves his attitude. he already thinks hes the best player in the world. that i have to say is ****************.

[Powdered Water]

So, what you appear to be saying is that once he has some support from quality players, and doesn't have to carry the load himself........

As one possible factor? Yes. Or, it maybe more complex, such as the guidance of the traning staff. Psychological side of things, maybe. I was simply backtracing what I felt and trying to make sense of it all, but I wasn't expecting to get to any sort of definitive conclusions.