substitution in a clearer format

[Grizzlierbear]

Ok gang in an effort to keep it straightforward and simple. no confusing material
I will ask each question seperately with a simple premise

THE PREMISE
SUBSTITUTE as a 12th person enters without referee's permission soley to disrupt play you see him do it from the moment he steps onto the FOP till he does the deed, a matter of split seconds.
This is not about the restart as in all cases it is a drop ball for outside interference. IT has to do with the colour of the card to be shown and how it is to be done

THe card choices are
(A) show one yellow card
(B) show two yellow cards then show red card
(C) show one red card

Question 1 = A, B or C
Question 2 = A, B or C
Question 3 = A, B or C
Question 4 = A, B or C
Question 5 = A, B or C
Question 6 = A, B or C
Question 7 = A, B or C
Question 8 = A, B or C

Case 1 steps into the FOP and he simply kicks the ball out of play to stop the attacking play of the opposition.

Case 2 steps into the FOP and he picks up the ball with his hands to stop the attacking play of the opposition

Case 3 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball cleanly from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say PLAY ON

Case 4 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say careless tackle a DFK.

Case 5 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball cleanly from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say PLAY ON but stops a goal scoring opportunity

Case 6 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say careless tackle a DFK. but stops a goal scoring opportunity.

Case 7 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say reckless tackle a DFK.

Case 8 steps into the FOP and he slide tackles and knocks the ball from the feet of a passing attacker in a manner you would normally say excessive tackle a DFK.

My last post was tainted with confusion or so I am told ,this should hopefully be clearer. I still appreciate any and all input if you wish to add anything please do looking for clarification or opinions. Thanks

[kevbrunton]

Ok, I'll bite first...

I think you need an option D -- yellow and red, although since they both occurred are pretty much the same time, you could just argue 1 red and ignore the yellow.

Here's how I'd answer it...

1, 2, 3, 4, 7 & 8 are all B -- yellow for entering without permission and yellow for USB, red for 2nd caution.

In 1, 2 & 3, the second caution is for interfering with the ongoing play -- USB.

In 4, 7 & 8, I'm assuming from your description of "careless" in 4, "reckless" in 7 and "excessive force" in 8, that they are challenges you'd normally give a caution. So the second caution is for that -- still USB.

5 & 6 are both either D or C -- yellow for EWOP and red for stopping goal scoring opportunity or just skip the EWOP and give 'em the red.

Note that in 3 & 5, even though you describe them as situations where you'd NORMALLY say play on, I wouldn't in this case because it's outside interference.

The unfortunate thing is that the offending team doesn't wind up down a player in this situation because the person sent off was not on the field of play. Nothing within the LOTG that you can do about that.

[IASocFan]

My analysis was the same as Kev's. I was just too lazy and unsure to write it up. I've never had to deal with unauthorized entry onto the field. The closest was when a youth team coach stopped a ball on the touch line that may or may not have gone out. I used law 18 and awarded an IFK to the non-offending team and had some polite, but choice words for the coach.

(Please don't let this tangent distract from Grizzl's well-phrased question.)

If filing a game report (something rarely done in Iowa), I would be sure to include this incident. If not filing, I would be sure that the assignor or league official is aware of the incident.

[Andyrey]

I agree with Kev too.

[Statesman]

All of these instances are either a combination of 2 yellows, or a yellow and a red. The main difference in all situations is how long the league would suspend a player for these actions. If he runs in and kicks the ball, stay with the 1 game suspension. If he runs in and violently slide tackles a player he'd probably get tossed for the whole season. Luckily that isn't the referees decision so it makes our job a lot easier. Give the yellow and red and simply write up exactly what happened, done deal :)