¿Ronaldinho to Madrid? (discussion....NOT news)

[Oscar]

Laporta might think getting Eto'o doesn't affect the pact between the 2 clubs to not go after each other's players (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20040803dasdasftb_14&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb&d_date=20040803), but I doubt that the people in charge of Madrid feel the same way. If the rumor of getting Puyol was indeed meant as a warning, then that would show it as well.

Let's face it. Florentino isn't going to get Joaquin when Figo's contract expires in 2006 (maybe Figo might leave after next season even) when he won't even get Xabi now. In his mind replacing a 'galactico' with a 'normal' player would possibly equal 'downgrading' the team. And what better time to buy a galactico, than when one leaves the club?....especially seeing as he buys them when one doesn't leave the club anyway.

Ronaldinho isn't loyal to Barcelona, they had to improve his wages this year just to remove the chance he might go to another club. And come on, who doesn't know that Madrid was his first choice when leaving PSG? It's only after Madrid left the race, to get Beckham instead, that he even considered the thought of going to Barça.

So you got Barcelona destroying the pact between the clubs, a player that wouldn't say no to leaving Barcelona, and Madrid 'needing' a galactico for that spot in the near future with some pretty good motivation to stick it back to Barça.

Ribbing the Barça posters on this board aside, I really do think there's a moderately good chance this will happen.

[phishy]

shame shame oscar.....

[EdgarDavids20]

Laporta might think getting Eto'o doesn't affect the pact between the 2 clubs to not go after each other's players (http://www.as.com/articulo.html?xref=20040803dasdasftb_14&type=Tes&anchor=dasftb&d_date=20040803), but I doubt that the people in charge of Madrid feel the same way. If the rumor of getting Puyol was indeed meant as a warning, then that would show it as well.

Let's face it. Florentino isn't going to get Joaquin when Figo's contract expires in 2006 (maybe Figo might leave after next season even) when he won't even get Xabi now. In his mind replacing a 'galactico' with a 'normal' player would possibly equal 'downgrading' the team. And what better time to buy a galactico, than when one leaves the club?....especially seeing as he buys them when one doesn't leave the club anyway.

Ronaldinho isn't loyal to Barcelona, they had to improve his wages this year just to remove the chance he might go to another club. And come on, who doesn't know that Madrid was his first choice when leaving PSG? It's only after Madrid left the race, to get Beckham instead, that he even considered the thought of going to Barça.

So you got Barcelona destroying the pact between the clubs, a player that wouldn't say no to leaving Barcelona, and Madrid 'needing' a galactico for that spot in the near future with some pretty good motivation to stick it back to Barça.

Ribbing the Barça posters on this board aside, I really do think there's a moderately good chance this will happen.
There's no chance in hell that you guys will get him. I know, no one else thought Owen would go to real madrid but Owen was somewhat expendable with the addition of Cisse. Ronaldinho and davids were key to barca's success last year. The only way you might get hm is if the debt at barca reaches a point where it is unmanageable. I don't see that happening too soon so no. And plus, why would barca let him of to their rivals in RM?

[Oscar]

¿Why would they let Figo go to their rivals?

[Excape Goat]

It will depend on Ronaldinho and the structure of his contract(the amount of the escape clause, etc). Ronaldino probably wants to play with Ronaldo and Roberto Carlos. he probably wants to stay in Spain if he wants to move. However, I am not sure whether he wants to be Figo II. It will depend on Ronaldinho's feeling on it.

Barcelona would do anything to stop the transfer, but Perez is willing to pay for the escape clause than so be it. It will depend how much the escape clause will be. Ronaldinho does not seem dumb. The escape clause should be a fair price for a galactico.

[Iberian]

Figo, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Romario, Maradona, Guardiola, Ferrer, Schuster, Sergi, Laudrup....it's a hell of a list of very important players in the history of Barcelona and even at world level that didn't last too long or did not finish their careers there. I know, every team has such a list, but count how many FIFA World Players are in this one, how many symbols of Barcelona's deepest sentiments and you'll understand what I mean.

Can players like Puyol and Ronaldinho move to another team? hell yeah.
Like you, I am very, very positive on that they will, and particularly on Ronaldihno. Whether Real will go after them, taking into account how much they cost, its also highly probable. Furthermore, another good year of Ronaldihno, another year on the back of Zidane, and the fans and the club will scream to Florentino to get the best possible galactico to replace him, and we all know that there is no other. He has been on Florentino's list for a long, long time, even before he got to PSG he was on Sanz's, with who he still keeps good relations. Actually, Ronaldihno can be quoted several times saying that his dream was to play at Real. Also, after this past year and the sure rumour that he has higher ambitions than what Barca was giving him, and the fact that his salary, even though very high, is not what he can offered somewhere else, Ronaldihno we all know (except the blind), will not last long there. This is simply reality, unless Barcelona does very, very well this year (they better win the CL), in which case Ronaldihno's value will rise sky high and will make him the most wanted player in the world. Even worst for them.

There is not a "moderate chance" that this will happen, Oscar. There is a hell of chance that at the very least he won't stay at Barca too long, whether he goes to Real Madrid or not. This being said, of course Real will go after him the second he is in the market, one way or the other. Good relations between both clubs will stop there, if they haven't already.

Something else. Florentino made a huge mistake letting Ronaldihno go to Barcelona without even making an offer for him, and I am sure he knows this. One thing was to have Zidane (hell, we have Raul, Ronaldo and Morientes and he just brought Owen), and another one to let Barcelona get another FIFA World Player (he will be). Now he let Etoo go (I say now but in reality he has been letting him go for 3 years), and look at where he ended up. This is another huge mistake in the works. If Ronaldihno and Etoo do achieve results (and they will), specially the ones that could bring Real down from the top, you can be sure that Florentino will have no choice than to attack. You can't have good business when the main opponents do better than you with what you have given them.

[kaberon10]

As much as I'd love to see him in a white shirt -- I'd say he's the only person in the world right now that looks able to fill Zidane's role close to as well as Zidane did -- I'm not sure he would be interested in the move. I think he'd be happier at a place where he'd be the unquestioned star of the show, and Real is probably the only place where he wouldn't be that. At Chelsea, ManU, and Milan, he'd be the biggest and brightest star, but I don't think he's a bigger attraction than Ronaldo, nor could he get into the fan's hearts like Raul. I agree that he won't be at Barca for the rest of his career, but I don't think he'll make the infamous move to Madrid. I'd love him to, though!

[astabooty]

¿Why would they let Figo go to their rivals?

figo had a release clause.

if real are willing to pay over 100m...

[Iberian]

figo had a release clause.

if real are willing to pay over 100m...

Why not?. I know that some crazy Russian would...

Real makes 200 mill. a year in marketing. Real spent 65 (I think) on Zidane. Real has (for reasons that escape me), decided not to spend more than 50 this year (what is Florentino saving money for? replacing aging galacticos in the near future?). Ronaldihno will have an offer from Real at one point or another, it has to happen.

[Empty3D]

http://www.soccerage.com/en/13/v2066.html

Ronaldinho will probably leave Barca some day, but i don't believe his first option will be Real.

[Iberian]

Where is Sinko with one of those posts signed by the managements of Juve, Barcelona, Manchester United....? :D

[Sinko]

Where is Sinko with one of those posts signed by the managements of Juve, Barcelona, Manchester United....? :D Oh, I condidered it, but since this is only a wild speculation topic, and not hard news, just felt there was little need! ;)

[Excape Goat]

Real Madrid will go after him for sure, but whether he would accept remain the question. The draw of playing Real Madrid will be attractive, but no one really wants to live a dangerious life liked Figo.

[Iberian]

Real Madrid will go after him for sure, but whether he would accept remain the question. The draw of playing Real Madrid will be attractive, but no one really wants to live a dangerious life liked Figo.

Yeah, I see your point. If a Barca fan had the guts to throw a shirt to Figo's face in the middle of an EC final, if he got thrown at pig's head at the Camp Nou I imagine that Ronaldihno could get a double-headed axe at a WC's or a live poisonous snake thrown at him. Who knows, those people are crazy. :cool:

[mikeb3142]

No way this happens. The stakes are too high for Barca to allow this to happen again. Laporta would be tossed out of the club before the day ended and he certainly doesnt want that.

[pepster]

barsa are noted for being truly dumb at times....

[se7en]

football these days: 'loyalty is where the money is.'

[christosap]

i thought cassano was lined up to eventually replace zidane, chelsea is where ronaldinho will end up.

[Oscar]

I've never heard anything about Cassano possibly coming to Madrid in the future. :confused:

I don't think "Barça wouldn't let it happen" would stop such a move, it's not like Arsenal 'wanted' to sell Vieira, yet it came close to happening nevertheless, they also just signed a new contract with him this year if I'm not mistaken. If the rumors are true and the main reason it didn't happen was because Vieira wanted a 'Galactico' paycheck: that wouldn't be a problem for Ronaldinho. Vieira also shows that past wanted players of Florentino, like Ronaldinho, don't leave his mind in future opportunities to get them.

[Excape Goat]

I've never heard anything about Cassano possibly coming to Madrid in the future. :confused:

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Cassano was once linked to Real Madrid because of Totti. It was one of those crazy rumors. Or the original poster is ocnfused with Totti whom peoiple thought will join next season.