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Catel
30 Nov 2007, 05:33 PM
1) Buffon
2) Coupet
3) Van der Sar
4) Casillas
5) Ramé
6) Frey
7) Mandanda
8) Janot
9) Landreau
10) Lloris

In my opinion French goalkeepers are generally the best in the world. I see them play every week and Spanish or Brazilian goalkeepers can't take the comparison.
Petr Cech wasn't even the best goalkeeper of Ligue 1 with Rennes.

Cassano
30 Nov 2007, 05:47 PM
1) Buffon
2) Coupet
3) Van der Sar
4) Casillas
5) Ramé
6) Frey
7) Mandanda
8) Janot
9) Landreau
10) Lloris

In my opinion French goalkeepers are generally the best in the world. I see them play every week and Spanish or Brazilian goalkeepers can't take the comparison.
Petr Cech wasn't even the best goalkeeper of Ligue 1 with Rennes.

Frey is one of my favorite goalkeepers. I rank him behind Buffon. His reflexes are amazing.

StiltonFC
30 Nov 2007, 07:33 PM
what kind of list is this? keller,freidel,howard lol:confused:
me: a three year old list.

you: oh.

StiltonFC
30 Nov 2007, 07:37 PM
In my opinion French goalkeepers are generally the best in the world.
completely objective statement here!!!
Petr Cech wasn't even the best goalkeeper of Ligue 1 with Rennes.
he was only 7 years old, though.

from wikipedia:

"He currently holds three records: a Czech professional league record of not conceding a goal in 855 competitive minutes, an English Premiership record of not conceding a goal in 1,025 minutes, and the most clean sheets accomplished in a single Premier League season (25), set during Chelsea's 2004-05 title-winning campaign. He also has a club record at his former team Sparta Praha, having gone 928 minutes unbeaten in all competitions in 2001-2002, when his unbeaten run in Czech league competition was combined with his performances in the UEFA Champions League."

XSempreJuveX
30 Nov 2007, 08:11 PM
me: a three year old list.

you: oh.

yes i know that but when weer some of those kleepers ever the best?

StiltonFC
30 Nov 2007, 08:19 PM
yes i know that but when weer some of those kleepers ever the best?
there are two ways to look at this:

a) pick one of the four as better than the others without considering that these four are not among the best in the world.

b) it's a stupid poll and no one but a complete tool would vote in it.

( i picked b, but i said, as an aside, that Pepe Reina should be included in a shortlist of best current keepers. )

P.Rossi
01 Dec 2007, 06:21 AM
Jussi Jaaskelainen (Bolton)

Catel
01 Dec 2007, 07:29 AM
he was only 7 years old, though.

from wikipedia:

"He currently holds three records: a Czech professional league record of not conceding a goal in 855 competitive minutes, an English Premiership record of not conceding a goal in 1,025 minutes, and the most clean sheets accomplished in a single Premier League season (25), set during Chelsea's 2004-05 title-winning campaign. He also has a club record at his former team Sparta Praha, having gone 928 minutes unbeaten in all competitions in 2001-2002, when his unbeaten run in Czech league competition was combined with his performances in the UEFA Champions League."
What's the matter ? Lloris is 19 and Mandanda is 22 and they already have quiet an international level.

If Frey is better than Buffon, then Coupet is probably the best goalkeeper through the Universe. :D

XSempreJuveX
01 Dec 2007, 07:52 AM
If Frey is better than Buffon, then Coupet is probably the best goalkeeper through the Universe. :D[/quote]



ahahaha lol are you serious? i think most of the footballing world would disagree

Teso Dos Bichos
01 Dec 2007, 10:32 AM
b) it's a stupid poll and no one but a complete tool would vote in it.

( i picked b, but i said, as an aside, that Pepe Reina should be included in a shortlist of best current keepers. )

What other keepers to do you rate? Personally speaking I would rank Buffon, Casillas and Cech in the top tier. I think most would agree. In the second tier there are lots of quality keepers with very little between them and I would probably put Reina there.

StiltonFC
01 Dec 2007, 01:51 PM
What other keepers to do you rate? Personally speaking I would rank Buffon, Casillas and Cech in the top tier. I think most would agree. In the second tier there are lots of quality keepers with very little between them and I would probably put Reina there.
i don't watch La Liga matches nor Espana NT, so Casillas is known to me only by reputation, which is good. if you think that the quality of the play in La Liga is as good as EPL ( I don't ), then the best arquero in La Liga would be worthy of consideration in the pantheon of the premier goalies.

Buffon is more known to me, because of World Cup and seeing an occasional Serie A match with Juve. Because I have a distaste for Juventus, born out of the fact that I don't like Fiat and the Agnelli family in general, Buffon suffers by association. Also, while I must respect the accomplishments of the Italian NT, I favor other nations, so Buffon suffers accordingly.

His performance in the year following the World Cup has been less spectacular. Of course he led Juve out of the second tier, but he has conceded 13 goals in 13 matches ( unless he didn't play in all of them -- i can't find that info ), which is hardly stellar.

As to Čech, his record with Chelsea speaks for itself. He benefits from a very solid back line, as does Reina, but his size and agility ( for a monster ) are very good.

For me, I would rate Reina as one of the best penalty goalies in the world, which shows his individual skills. He's not got the size of Buffon or Čech, so he has to be very quick off his mark. Of course, being somewhat shorter may be to his advantage there, and what's an inch or two where penalties are concerned.

The folks pimping Coupet and Frey can say all they want, but Coupet plays in an inferior league, and Frey has only been a prominent goalie for a short time.

frasermc
01 Dec 2007, 01:55 PM
i don't watch La Liga matches nor Espana NT, so Casillas is known to me only by reputation, which is good. if you think that the quality of the play in La Liga is as good as EPL ( I don't ), then the best arquero in La Liga would be worthy of consideration in the pantheon of the premier goalies.

Buffon is more known to me, because of World Cup and seeing an occasional Serie A match with Juve. Because I have a distaste for Juventus, born out of the fact that I don't like Fiat and the Agnelli family in general, Buffon suffers by association. Also, while I must respect the accomplishments of the Italian NT, I favor other nations, so Buffon suffers accordingly.

His performance in the year following the World Cup has been less spectacular. Of course he led Juve out of the second tier, but he has conceded 13 goals in 13 matches ( unless he didn't play in all of them -- i can't find that info ), which is hardly stellar.

As to Čech, his record with Chelsea speaks for itself. He benefits from a very solid back line, as does Reina, but his size and agility ( for a monster ) are very good.

For me, I would rate Reina as one of the best penalty goalies in the world, which shows his individual skills. He's not got the size of Buffon or Čech, so he has to be very quick off his mark. Of course, being somewhat shorter may be to his advantage there, and what's an inch or two where penalties are concerned.

The folks pimping Coupet and Frey can say all they want, but Coupet plays in an inferior league, and Frey has only been a prominent goalie for a short time.


next you'll be telling us parallel lines was one of the best albums of the 70's...

StiltonFC
01 Dec 2007, 02:03 PM
next you'll be telling us parallel lines was one of the best albums of the 70's...
Kreese: Sweep the leg!
Bobby: But, sensei...
Kreese: You got a problem with that?

Yid_Army99
02 Dec 2007, 03:17 PM
Reina, how will ye be remembered?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=CiVqWdhr98s&feature=related

Teso Dos Bichos
02 Dec 2007, 03:46 PM
A Spurs fan should not be taking the piss out of anyone else...

inflames
03 Dec 2007, 01:13 AM
giovanni that guy looks stupid in that video, is that ochoa? making elaborate dives when he doesnt need to

whats all this ochoa talk? he plays in mexico ffs

you sure you arent a spazzo?

canadianscout
03 Dec 2007, 12:06 PM
For those of you who are writing that when Buffon hangs up his cleats he will be known as the best goalkeeper ever are clearly deluded! A certain Gordon Banks and Lev Yashin come to mind. There is no doubt his is great and is the current best, which is what the thread was about. I just want to add that Guillermo Ochoa is a great keeper and has some of the best reflexes and diving abilities in a young keeper. Yes he currently plays in Mexico, but he is only 22. He is making a big impact in the league, with a lesser team playing in front of him, and is currently on the books for a transfer to Old Trafford.

Smoga
03 Dec 2007, 12:40 PM
Van Der Saar, Kuszczak and Foster....do you think that this Ochoa is better than either of these three excellent goalkeepers? He wouldn't have a snowball's chance in hell of starting, even in a cup match. He needs to go to a lower tier European league, or a lesser Prem team, and maybe he would be able to start learning from elder keepers. 22 is too young to judge a keeper, anyway.

As for Yashin, please, do not even mention this name until you've seen some games with him in the nets. It's like saying Leonidas was the greatest striker ever..he might have been, but how qualified are we to make that judgment?

Perú FC
03 Dec 2007, 03:37 PM
Van Der Saar, Kuszczak and Foster....do you think that this Ochoa is better than either of these three excellent goalkeepers?
Right now, Ochoa is really better than Kuszczak and Foster, maybe not van der Sar for the experience surely, but for performance this year...

StiltonFC
03 Dec 2007, 05:36 PM
Right now, Ochoa is really better than Kuszczak and Foster, maybe not van der Sar for the experience surely, but for performance this year...
Ochoa may be a solid goalie, but he doesn't have enough height ever to compete with the likes of Buffon and Čech.