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Danks81
13 Aug 2004, 12:49 PM
I am hearby declaring that I am no longer supporting Real Madrid as a club. My interest in them took a serious hit with the Beckham purchase, but the Owen deal was the straw that broke the camel's back. I want to support a team, but it is clear that Real Madrid is more focused on developing as a marketing vehicle than as a soccer team. I have no interest in supporting an entity as such. I might as well root for Nike, Adidas, or Coca-Cola.

I have not yet settled on a team to replace Real. Currently I am interested in Fulham, but I cannot claim that I support them fully.

manué
13 Aug 2004, 01:09 PM
I am hearby declaring that I am no longer supporting Real Madrid as a club. My interest in them took a serious hit with the Beckham purchase, but the Owen deal was the straw that broke the camel's back. I want to support a team, but it is clear that Real Madrid is more focused on developing as a marketing vehicle than as a soccer team. I have no interest in supporting an entity as such. I might as well root for Nike, Adidas, or Coca-Cola.

I have not yet settled on a team to replace Real. Currently I am interested in Fulham, but I cannot claim that I support them fully.

Obviously not a true RM fan...Good luck with your next flavor!

Mancityfan81
13 Aug 2004, 01:15 PM
Danks81, your eyes hath seen the light! Real won't be a marketing force for very much longer, though, because they won't be winning anything

laytonbaker
13 Aug 2004, 01:26 PM
Obviously not a true RM fan...Good luck with your next flavor!

Not a real madrid fan like you? Well being such a provincial from Madrid we can all understand why you bleed Real colors.

Oh wait... :cool:

YankeeWomble
13 Aug 2004, 01:32 PM
...the dangers of glory hunting. ;)

210597
13 Aug 2004, 01:37 PM
:-D :-D :-D

now this is really the spirit of soccer right here...

Oscar
14 Aug 2004, 10:12 AM
Not a real madrid fan like you? Well being such a provincial from Madrid we can all understand why you bleed Real colors.

Oh wait...

Maybe you should visit the England boards to share this wisdom, they're filled with 'supporters' who come from the city the clubs are from. Some day there should be a study why it is that so many imigrants in the US seem to come from Manchester and London. :D

He's got a point, wether he comes from Madrid or not. But I guess making a smart ass comment instead of acknowledging that point, is higher on your message board priority list. :)

TAKK
14 Aug 2004, 10:25 AM
Danks81, your eyes hath seen the light! Real won't be a marketing force for very much longer, though, because they won't be winning anything

BINGO! Then again US supporters blindly support and believe all of the insane over the top hype about England jsut because they speak the same language.
Need to crack that market, the naive fan, and this is the way to do it.

I do believe however that with the introduction of the two coaches at Chelsea and Liverpool a more complex game and stronger league will develop in England. Tactics and technical ability will be brought to the forefront, and with all of the money of the P'ship they stand to turn the league into a vehicle with 4 or 5 excellent teams. Question is...how many Englishman will be on any of these teams? They will be filling the second tier teams of English football quickly.

Minduchio
14 Aug 2004, 10:27 AM
I am hearby declaring that I am no longer supporting Real Madrid as a club. My interest in them took a serious hit with the Beckham purchase, but the Owen deal was the straw that broke the camel's back. I want to support a team, but it is clear that Real Madrid is more focused on developing as a marketing vehicle than as a soccer team. I have no interest in supporting an entity as such. I might as well root for Nike, Adidas, or Coca-Cola.

I have not yet settled on a team to replace Real. Currently I am interested in Fulham, but I cannot claim that I support them fully.
I know what you mean.Things lately wasn't exactly as we expected in Madrid.Perez played us before elections with Samuel's purchase,and then continued his old politics-buying "sofa's instead of lamps".
But Real Madrid isn't only about Perez.There was bad things going on during Mendoza's or Sanz's reign.Real Madrid is more than a club,and no matter what players are in the team,no matter how they'll play ,there are also memories of Di Stefano,Puskas,Stielike,Gento,Butragueno,Hugo Sanchez,Hierro etc.There is hope that someday our management will understand what players should be bought first.Come on,you can't exchange your supporting club as you change dirty socks.Unless you became their fan just because they were winning ...

canzano55
14 Aug 2004, 02:58 PM
Lol! This thread is hilarious. I cant believe that only now people realize this.

sboydell
14 Aug 2004, 03:03 PM
Glory Hunting yeah right almost all you guys cheer for big clubs

ax319
14 Aug 2004, 03:13 PM
I bet this guy picked Real as his club because of their kit or some retarded reason like that, since most american fans seem obsessed with logos/shileds, kits and names. just look at the threads on these boards most of them have to do with such topics.

Danks81
14 Aug 2004, 03:18 PM
I picked them after a visit to Spain in 1996. I stayed with a family in Madrid who were Real Madrid fans. At the time I didn't really care about soccer, but the seed was planted. Over the next couple of years I took a keener interest in the club, especially Roberto Carlos. Come the late 90's when coverage of the Champions League increased I got to see them more and I was able to follow with stronger interest. Now I realize how little I approve of how the club is ran. Despite my interest in the team and the fans I can no longer overlook that.


But ya, your stupid theory was close. Idiot.

RandyNA74
14 Aug 2004, 03:23 PM
I for one understand where you are coming from. Im not a Real supporter but I did develop an interest in them when I went to Madrid in 1997 and spent about a month there, seeing them twice at the Bernabeu. I can understand your logic for liking the club to begin with, and even more your logic for being "disgusted" with them. Buying Owen is nuts, a totally useless purchase. But oh well, this is how soccer is these days. Its not just Real...

X X I
14 Aug 2004, 03:26 PM
I picked them after a visit to Spain in 1996. I stayed with a family in Madrid who were Real Madrid fans. At the time I didn't really care about soccer, but the seed was planted. Over the next couple of years I took a keener interest in the club, especially Roberto Carlos. Come the late 90's when coverage of the Champions League increased I got to see them more and I was able to follow with stronger interest. Now I realize how little I approve of how the club is ran. Despite my interest in the team and the fans I can no longer overlook that.


But ya, your stupid theory was close. Idiot.

A real Real Madrid fan is born a fan and is a fan for life. You are obviously not a Madridista...

illuminatus
14 Aug 2004, 10:28 PM
You're blasting the club because of the way Perez has turned it into a marketing machine? Well go ahead. You can't say that Madrid fans don't realize this. Minduchio is right. Perez is the current owner and unfortunately can do whatever he likes. But he won't be the president forever. What happens when he leaves and the next president begins signing players that suit the team's tactics? What happens when they sign your next favourite player that is perfect for the team? Will you come running back?

Fevernova99
15 Aug 2004, 12:21 AM
Some fans from RM & MANUTD dont realize that if it wasnt for the marketing of the club image the club would never be as successful as they are, esp in the modern football world. The amount generated allows the club to buy Rio, Howard, Ruud, Smith, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Beck, etc. Had Utd gotten Ronaldinho and Duff who knows how far they mightve gotten in the CL and league. Without world marketing would you even be able to catch euro soccer in the us? Be happy you have a smart president that knows how to generate revenue that can be used for getting great players.

I caught about 25 matches from RM last season and I really dont see why people bashed Becks as much as they do. Even after his scandal and the CL exit the league game against osasuna, becks was the only one that made an effort to get the team back into the game. The last month was horrible but you cant really say he failed in spain because the last month (4-5 matches) was a disaster for him.

echineko
15 Aug 2004, 09:10 AM
Some fans from RM & MANUTD dont realize that if it wasnt for the marketing of the club image the club would never be as successful as they are, esp in the modern football world. The amount generated allows the club to buy Rio, Howard, Ruud, Smith, Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Beck, etc. Had Utd gotten Ronaldinho and Duff who knows how far they mightve gotten in the CL and league. Without world marketing would you even be able to catch euro soccer in the us? Be happy you have a smart president that knows how to generate revenue that can be used for getting great players.

I caught about 25 matches from RM last season and I really dont see why people bashed Becks as much as they do. Even after his scandal and the CL exit the league game against osasuna, becks was the only one that made an effort to get the team back into the game. The last month was horrible but you cant really say he failed in spain because the last month (4-5 matches) was a disaster for him.
Marketing is a fact in today's football, absolutely right. And not every club is a Chelsea, they have to earn their cash in other ways. The only problem any Madrid fan has is when marketing overshadows the greater good, in football terms. Signing Owen for 12mil is a coup, undoubtedly, but absolutely rubbish when you consider he isn't needed. Beckham was bad enough(someone Madrid also didn't need), but this is the limit. After all the talk about finally seeing the need to balance the team, this is a grave insult. I haven't seen one Madrid fan who's happy about this, so i can understand his feelings. This transfer leaves a bad taste in the mouth, especially there has been no real strengthening of the team other than Samuel. I'm at the limit myself, but i hope there will be someone else before the transfer deadline.
As for Beckham, he is ill suited for a central mid, but to me, mainly because Zidane is always the focal point for attack. Beckham isn't a playmaker, and those long crosses of his are better suited to the wings. When he learns to dribble and move more confidently without resorting to high balls, we'll see. But the main reason I think he's not needed is because he's no defensive mid. Getting a few tackles in and being a class destroyer are not the same. When the justification for an 'attacking' midfielder being worthwhile is he helps out in defense, it doesnt really convince me. But i accept it isn't always about football in his case.

DJPuma
17 Aug 2004, 12:38 PM
So now people are falling off the bandwagon ... this is so funny!!

RandyNA74
17 Aug 2004, 04:45 PM
So now people are falling off the bandwagon ... this is so funny!!
I wouldnt call it falling off the bandwagon in the case of the person who started this thread. It sounds like he started supporting the club for personal reasons, but has since become disillusioned with it. Bandwagon are all those people who support Real because of Beckham and will support Chelsea when he is sold to them in 2 years.