Insulting (The game inside the game)

[eejit]

No. My problem is people who act like that are generally ********wits, and I have a low tolerance for ********wits.

:rolleyes:

Get a clue. Acting like an utter tool has nothing to do with the difference between successful and weak teams. In fact, the majority of the really successful teams I've come into contact with have by far the best sportsmanship and discipline on the field. As someone said, A Class players act like it.

If you need to do it in order to win the game, then you should quit acting so immaturely and fix your skills. If you don't need to do it to win the game, then it's pointless and merely displays an utter lack of class.

You call it acting a tool I call it doing what needs to be done to win a game of soccer.

The reason you find the best teams are sporting is probably that your not giving them a game. If you were challenging them you would almost certainly see a nastier side to their game, but this is the side to them that makes them winners.

There are plenty of teams that we thrashed 4-0, 5-0 who would say we were a great sporting side, friendly etc. However the truth is these teams just roll aside and we were always so confident that we would win that we knew there was no need to act like that unless they started it.

I am talking about matches when the game is "up for grabs" and the tackles are going in between two closely matched sides.

Reading this thread it looks like some people just don't "get it". They have probably never played for a team that wins consistently over a long period and are the sort of guys who are happy to finish mid-table losing half their matches and then console themselves after defeat thinking of well at least we were polite and played a sporting manner wrongly assuming that these "qualitites" earns them respect.

[X X I]

Yes. But if he/she hits you hard enough to take you out of the game, then that's a different story.

I hit them back. Didn't your mother ever tell you if someone hits you, you hit them harder?

[bungadiri]

You call it acting a tool I call it doing what needs to be done to win a game of soccer.

The reason you find the best teams are sporting is probably that your not giving them a game. If you were challenging them you would almost certainly see a nastier side to their game, but this is the side to them that makes them winners.

There are plenty of teams that we thrashed 4-0, 5-0 who would say we were a great sporting side, friendly etc. However the truth is these teams just roll aside and we were always so confident that we would win that we knew there was no need to act like that unless they started it.

I am talking about matches when the game is "up for grabs" and the tackles are going in between two closely matched sides.

Reading this thread it looks like some people just don't "get it". They have probably never played for a team that wins consistently over a long period and are the sort of guys who are happy to finish mid-table losing half their matches and then console themselves after defeat thinking of well at least we were polite and played a sporting manner wrongly assuming that these "qualitites" earns them respect.
This is ridiculous. What gets me about people that woof and taunt on the pitch/field/court is the way they manage to convince themselves that it actually contributes to their teams chances of winning. They've got their heads so far up their own asses they don't notice negative responses from their own teammates, they forget about penalties called for unsportsmanlike behavior, they don't notice the way it distracts them from the job they're supposed to be doing out there, and they treat any response from an opponent as positive evidence that their having exhibited their personality flaw during the game is actually a winning strategy instead of what it really is: a public embarrassment. Last but not least, they wouldn't know respect if it gave them a blow job.

[dela]

You call it acting a tool I call it doing what needs to be done to win a game of soccer.

Sorry man. If you need to win a game of soccer by talking sh** to the other team, I hate to break it to you but... you suck. My advice... learn to play the game better. Maybe you won't need to resort to talking sh** anymore and maybe you'll win games with your skills instead.

The reason you find the best teams are sporting is probably that your not giving them a game. If you were challenging them you would almost certainly see a nastier side to their game, but this is the side to them that makes them winners.

Sorry again mate. I've played this game at it's highest level for 23 years. I've been on plenty of teams that went undefeated all season. I have many state, regional, and national championship trophies that we've battled teams for. My teams were successful with our determination, skill, fitness, and love for the game. For me to say that we did it by talking sh** would be a disgrace to our abilities. Can you say that, or are you sticking with the idea that your teams proudly won by talking sh**? Must be something to be proud of. ;)

Reading this thread it looks like some people just don't "get it".

I think there is only one person not getting here. ;)

They have probably never played for a team that wins consistently over a long period and are the sort of guys who are happy to finish mid-table losing half their matches and then console themselves after defeat thinking of well at least we were polite and played a sporting manner wrongly assuming that these "qualitites" earns them respect.

So by saying that, do you think that talking sh** to the other team is what REALLY earns respect? The only respect I've ever given any team, is how well they play on the pitch, not what is spraying out of their mouths.

Look... all in all don't take this personally. We have all talked a bit of rubbish on the field before. Its only human nature, but what we're all trying to tell you is that you shouldn't be so damn proud of it. It really makes you look bad when you say that your team is better because of it. As much as you say you play for a successful side, you are really making it look like your team ain't sh** without your mouths. You don't want us thinking that do you?
If you can win without your mouths then why use em? Some sort of a complex perhaps?

[X X I]

Hey... I am for talking ******** and all, but if you can't talk it back, or you can't hit back when the game gets more intense, don't do it.

[LeslieSantosfan]

Lets see, talking smack to the other team for 90 mins might result in a red card; not for the trash talking tho, but for the one who couldn't take it no more and break the trash talker's nutz through a powerful kick.

Red card for your nutz? Well, if you think the game is worth it........Have I seen people like that? O ya.....I've also seen the game-aftermath parking lot scene; whoooo, smoking......

I don't talk trash, period.I usually am too busy communicating with my teammates and yelling commands and position info at them that I can't hear much else. I deal with trash talking 2 ways, either I "accidently" physically hurt him; like "accidently' shoulder to his stomach and lift him up during his jump for a header (which is legal btw if you do it with skill); or a "secret elbow" works well, but make sure he is down for the count if you use elbow because he might come back to hurt you. The lifting thingy tho can be so dicrete he might not even know you mean it. esspecially if you "apologize" for it right after he eats sand.

Ok, so maybe I am in a good mood, another way I deal with trash talking is to have a weird conversation with him or my teammates or myself. Like weather, underwear, bras. You know? If you talk women with them, sometimes it works well they might actually join in the conversation and stop the trash talk; like, "I wanna F*&* that supermodel," and follow with very explicit details. Talk about disney is cool too. My favorite: I keep mumbling to myself in some sort of "crazy"/"psycho" way, plus now and then I slip in a phrase like, "SH*& I forgot my medication this morning." And then I scream all of a sudden and grin and crack a smile at him. Think "joker" from batman.

Yes, I am a scary little cat.
:cool: ~out

[Caesar]

..."accidently' shoulder to his stomach and lift him up during his jump for a header (which is legal btw if you do it with skill) Trust me, it ain't.

[LeslieSantosfan]

Trust me, it ain't.

trust me, I know

[Caesar]

trust me, I know
You might be able to get away with it, but it isn't legal.

[Tony Dellbird]

My personality, is go in hard but fair, if the player keeps talking to you go in harder and harder then just smile if he gets pissed off and swear and you'll find his smack talking isn't getting him anywhere and you're turning it all back on him.

Also the reason i go in hard but fair is for them to feel my presence and if they go in hard on me, fair dues i don't mind, infact i like it more because it builds a rivalry.

[dela]

My personality, is go in hard but fair, if the player keeps talking to you go in harder and harder then just smile if he gets pissed off and swear and you'll find his smack talking isn't getting him anywhere and you're turning it all back on him.

Also the reason i go in hard but fair is for them to feel my presence and if they go in hard on me, fair dues i don't mind, infact i like it more because it builds a rivalry.

^^See, now that's the kind of "getting into their head" that I agree with. If you go into a tackle hard yet fair, your bound to get much more into their head as if you apparently talked sh**. (<--- even though I still think talking crap does absolutely nothing for you). Let's see who would be more respected as a player by the world's top coaches...

Player A) Plays well but talks alotta sh** to to the other team because he says it "gets into their head"

-OR-

Player B) Plays well on the field and goes into every tackle hard but clean for its psychological effect...

That's just too easy.

[theblondsoccerstar]

well, in our league we get quite the insults. But it can turm into bad things.

Once my friend had somethin to settle with a girl on the opposing team. to my friends adavantage,she had prescription goggles,(heck, get contacts!lol!) the perfect way to make fun of her. it turned out to be really bad. they called each other @$$ 's and other bad names behind the reff's back. then it got really bad, and my friend did a few illegal slide takles and got a red card. which was too bad, cuz she was one of our best players.

so, i guess insults can be a bad thing, but u can't really avoid them, u know what i mean?

but don't worry, it all worked out, when i slide tackled the girl with the goggles, i knocked them clean off her face! :D

[southckid10]

sounnds like u ppl worry about making fun of eachother wen u shuld really be worrying about your real goal- "the goal"

[Gordon EF]

Folk that do stuff like that are wankers. Maybe saying one or two things is alright but have you lot never heard of sportsmanship?

I don't talk to any opposition player, even if someone talks to me in a friendly way, I just ignore them (during the game obviously, I'm not a nutter). Going in hard is good, even giving away silly fouls in non-dangerous areas is good IMO. Just push someone in the back, leave your foot in after a tackle, that sort of thing, just to let them know they're in a game and your prepared to mix it up a bit.

If you put in a absolutely crunching tackle on a player, most will be very unsure about trying to go past you again, even if he tries it, he's more likely to make mistakes etc.

[Teso Dos Bichos]

******** sportsmanship Gordon. I don't want a fair play award and I don't want to be remembered for being "nice" and friendly. Regardless of what I do, I play hard and play to win. That is the ONLY objective. If you disagree, you should not be playing at all. Gamesmanship can be essential and I am a student of it. At the end of the day, if it gives you the edge and an advanatage over your opponents, then that's always a great thing. History remembers the winners. I want to be a winner and I will do whatever it takes.

[metropolis2k]

Insulting is not part of the game.

I'm quite a cheeky kind of guy, not in an offensive kind of way but in a fun-loving playful kind of way. I don't go out of my way to make any comments at players, I certainly don't start anything myself, but if a player makes a comment to me or something I'll do something back. I don't mean something stupid like a bad tackle or anything offensive but I think a great example of what to do was Beckham in a game where some guy was really mouthing off at him after the guy had done a bad tackle. All Beckham did was blow him a kiss and get on with the game. It probably pissed off the other guy even more but he was the one that started it. I'll do something like that (maybe not something that 'fruity') but I've said things before like "What the hell was that?" about tackles and people trying little tricks that didn't work. It's more of a piss-take thing to humuliate them rather than anything offensive.

[becks1113]

talking trash will always happen on the pitch. Some people will do it because that is that way they are, and that's the way they play.

I personally don't mind if someone wants to be mouthy. BUT there are also players out there that don't mind getting a yellow for tackling hard. Those players will just take you out once, get their yellow on get on with the game.

If you talk ********, someone will get you eventually.

Sounds like the original post was from a kid who plays in the younger levels. As you start playing at higher levels of the game that kind of stuff won't be as common. Especially if you get hurt from one of your mouthy remarks.

[nvan_football]

according to my experience it frequently happens after conceded goals or an obvious defeat. It is actually based on envy, some guys may think Ha! This team is a way better at playing soccer than ours, but let's show that we're cooler

[Teso Dos Bichos]

BUT there are also players out there that don't mind getting a yellow for tackling hard. Those players will just take you out once, get their yellow on get on with the game.

If you talk ********, someone will get you eventually.

That's why you need to back it up with your game. If you want to employ gamesmanship, you need to be prepared to use it all, not just insults. I don't mind getting either colour of card if the situation requires it.

[Gordon EF]

******** sportsmanship Gordon. I don't want a fair play award and I don't want to be remembered for being "nice" and friendly. Regardless of what I do, I play hard and play to win. That is the ONLY objective. If you disagree, you should not be playing at all. Gamesmanship can be essential and I am a student of it. At the end of the day, if it gives you the edge and an advanatage over your opponents, then that's always a great thing. History remembers the winners. I want to be a winner and I will do whatever it takes.

I don't disagree with you, I don't care wheather people think I'm nice and I always want to win I just don't think saying bitchy little comments to opponents during a game is a good thing to do. I would have thought it's more likely to make the guy play better or get you a broken leg than give any advantage.

Besides, what are you going to say?..."I shagged yer maw"