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kkmkk
09 Aug 2004, 04:17 AM
The list goes on and on. You can really see how it changes the way a person plays. They don't play like normal, its almost like a wherewolf has been unleashed, and they just run around in rage, seems wierd to me. What do you think about insults like this? are they a part of the beautiful game that should not change, or a part that should be taken away? is there anyone on your team that does this? have you been insulted? what insults do people say?
Austen
some of the above experiences ended in brawl. the game had to be called off. the refree couldnt control the game. i am chinese. usually, the insults include your parents etc. & most of us take these comments very seriously. if my captain foresee something like this, he will sub the guy out to claim him down.

Becks7
09 Aug 2004, 04:51 AM
insults made about your race etc i can see as a problem but if your getting RATTLED over a verball insult...that is just soft and school boy-like...once you become men stuff like that should just go right over your head

Tony Dellbird
09 Aug 2004, 09:16 AM
A lot of our games used to end in fights ending in us getting kicked out of the league. It doesn't take a lot in our age group and league to start a fight really, one bad tackle and everyone thinks they're fúckin Mike Tyson

Middle Of The Shed
09 Aug 2004, 04:08 PM
Of course you don't always have to result to insults back if they start it. A way which I've found also winds up the opposition is if he's running his mouth off to you just smile and agree maybe say something like 'thanks'. I've found that really gets on their nerves and they often get so wound up they come in with a clumsy challenge and get themselves sent off or yellow carded.

Benvolio
09 Aug 2004, 04:46 PM
Best way to beat cocky people is to nutmeg them a few times consequtively, as i beleive its the most embarrassing thing that can happen to you/you can do to someone in a game.

eejit
09 Aug 2004, 05:05 PM
It is DEFINATELY part of the game. In a tight match if you can get your opponents to lose their heads it can be the difference between winning and losing.

A bit of needle spices up the match and makes the post game victory beers wash down all the better.

It can backfire on occasions though. I remember one game where one of the opposition was carrying a bit too much weight and our captain bad mouthed him for all to hear calling him a pie eater, toffee man, candy boy etc. etc.

The crowd were laughing (even some of his own fans) but the guy went into a rage and played the game of his life although he still finished on the losing side. Kind of respect them more when they respond like that.

To summarise my opinion on bad mouthing it kind of finds out which players have the stomach for it and which ones don't and are potential weaknesses in the opposition. It is definately worth doing.

One thing that pleases me the most about my teams double championship season is that EVERYONE else in the league didn't care who won it as long as it wasn't us.

All of which made the moment of raising the trophy extra sweet.

dela
09 Aug 2004, 07:48 PM
Going into a game with the intent on insulting the other team's players is like going to school on a Sunday... no class.

If you can't beat your man with your skills and you have to revert to getting into his head with language, then you need to hit the clinic and get your skills checked.

Class A players act like one.

eejit
10 Aug 2004, 05:21 PM
I agree that when your team is losing it is poor taste and you end up looking worse by doing it.

But when your team is winning most of its games (like ours was) it often adds the extra sweetness to a victory knowing that the opposition lost their heads and were given a sound beating at all levels.

dienasty
10 Aug 2004, 05:24 PM
ummm... how does he know that much about the other team lol. thats way too much research. my philosiphy is work hard and play. not keep your mouth shut and play but work hard and play. you have to protest calls of course

phillys
11 Aug 2004, 08:35 AM
IMHO, insulting is NOT part of the game. The mental part only comes in at the beginning before the game starts. Once the game begins, all it matters is skill and teamwork. I guess if I'm the ref, I would've red carded the kid.

CC05
11 Aug 2004, 03:06 PM
Going into a game with the intent on insulting the other team's players is like going to school on a Sunday... no class.

If you can't beat your man with your skills and you have to revert to getting into his head with language, then you need to hit the clinic and get your skills checked.

Class A players act like one.

Couldn't have said it any better!

I agree that when your team is losing it is poor taste and you end up looking worse by doing it.

But when your team is winning most of its games (like ours was) it often adds the extra sweetness to a victory knowing that the opposition lost their heads and were given a sound beating at all levels.

So you're saying if you're winning, it's NOT poor taste and you don't end up looking bad if you're insulting them? I think you look worse if you're insulting them while you win. Respect your opponent, whether you're winning or losing, instead of making childish and immature remarks.

eejit
11 Aug 2004, 05:58 PM
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So you're saying if you're winning, it's NOT poor taste and you don't end up looking bad if you're insulting them? I think you look worse if you're insulting them while you win. Respect your opponent, whether you're winning or losing, instead of making childish and immature remarks.[/QUOTE]

Respect an opponent only when they have EARNT your respect.

I think the problem for half of these people who are saying it is wrong to sledge is that they can't take it themselves when someone is having a pop.

Once you cross the white line the successful teams have a win at all costs mentality wheras the weak sides don't.

However it is important to remember that what is said on the pitch should remain on the pitch IMO. The time to be pally with the opposition is after the game in the bar not during it.

Ghobe
15 Aug 2004, 04:35 AM
The last time someone insulted me on the field, I "accidently" twisted his ankle.

Caesar
15 Aug 2004, 05:44 AM
I think the problem for half of these people who are saying it is wrong to sledge is that they can't take it themselves when someone is having a pop. No. My problem is people who act like that are generally ********wits, and I have a low tolerance for ********wits.

Once you cross the white line the successful teams have a win at all costs mentality wheras the weak sides don't. :rolleyes:

Get a clue. Acting like an utter tool has nothing to do with the difference between successful and weak teams. In fact, the majority of the really successful teams I've come into contact with have by far the best sportsmanship and discipline on the field. As someone said, A Class players act like it.

If you need to do it in order to win the game, then you should quit acting so immaturely and fix your skills. If you don't need to do it to win the game, then it's pointless and merely displays an utter lack of class.

Tony Dellbird
15 Aug 2004, 06:31 AM
I think the problem for half of these people who are saying it is wrong to sledge is that they can't take it themselves when someone is having a pop.

Yeah that's it! :rolleyes: You fool, if you find insulting people during the game part of it, maybe you forgettin why you're there.....to play football, most people who have to insult can't play football and are usually intimidated by what they've heard about the player.

The problem is, i don't feel the need to insult people while i play, i go in hard but fair and if the player has a problem with that he can try and insult me, but the tackles will get harder, why talk to someone you don't know or maybe don't like, didn't your mother ever tell you that! Not to talk to strangers!

guado
15 Aug 2004, 07:07 PM
if you're insulting the other team , you have to at least be ready for retaliation, whether verbal or physical. so if you're saying insults the whole time and get popped in the mouth, you shouldn't complain or be surprised.

X X I
15 Aug 2004, 07:54 PM
if you're insulting the other team , you have to at least be ready for retaliation, whether verbal or physical. so if you're saying insults the whole time and get popped in the mouth, you shouldn't complain or be surprised.

True. But that's the point of insulting -- to get inside the other players head. So if he hits you, you know he's no longer concentrating on his game, and he can get a card.

Ghobe
15 Aug 2004, 08:29 PM
True. But that's the point of insulting -- to get inside the other players head. So if he hits you, you know he's no longer concentrating on his game, and he can get a card.

Yes. But if he/she hits you hard enough to take you out of the game, then that's a different story.

AE1603s
15 Aug 2004, 08:34 PM
I dont say anything, don't play dirty, it's my personality. My friends call me zidane minus the skill, ha...but I don't like kids that talk a lot and all of that, no point

Ghobe
15 Aug 2004, 08:48 PM
I dont say anything, don't play dirty, it's my personality. My friends call me zidane minus the skill, ha...but I don't like kids that talk a lot and all of that, no point

Good for you, seriously. I wish more people were like you, including me.