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cakrabirawa
08 Aug 2004, 12:44 AM
I heard He's very Famous in Japan and some of MLB club interisted with him
after last Koshien game..

what happen with him now ?

'Thanks

muse
08 Aug 2004, 07:12 AM
From what I understand, he is very popular. A lot of young women consider him very hansome. I saw him on Tv a few days ago. He is the captain of the high school baseball team he represents. I believe it is his last year at the high school he attends. After that, he will likely be joining some kind of professional baseball team for sure. I do not know if that will be a Major League team or a Japanese League team. I do not follow baseball closely so my scoop on this subject is very limited.

tako
08 Aug 2004, 09:05 AM
He is considered to be the best pitcher in all Japanese high schools and very popular. In Japan , even High school baseball tournament is very popular , maybe more popular than Asian Cup.
Many Japanese baseball clubs want him , so he will be sure to join the professional baseball clubs ( though he may want to join MLB club) after he graduates high school next year spring.
I think he will get about a million dollars as contract money when he joins professional club. In Japan baseball players earn much more money than football players ( maybe 4 or 5 times).

This summer "Koshien" is his last high school tournament. His team was a finalist in spring tounament and is favorite now. His team will play first game in the tournament soon.

Iranian-Striker
08 Aug 2004, 01:39 PM
Hey that's pretty interesting...


BTW, isn't there an Iranian-Japanese playing in the J-League?

toohyper
08 Aug 2004, 03:12 PM
He is considered to be the best pitcher in all Japanese high schools and very popular. In Japan , even High school baseball tournament is very popular , maybe more popular than Asian Cup.
Many Japanese baseball clubs want him , so he will be sure to join the professional baseball clubs ( though he may want to join MLB club) after he graduates high school next year spring.
I think he will get about a million dollars as contract money when he joins professional club. In Japan baseball players earn much more money than football players ( maybe 4 or 5 times).

This summer "Koshien" is his last high school tournament. His team was a finalist in spring tounament and is favorite now. His team will play first game in the tournament soon.

Yeah i heard that High School Baseball tournament is very very popular over there. I do not know exactly why a high school sport would be that popular tho.

If this guy is as good as u say he is, then there's no doubt that atleast 1 scout from a Major league baseball team will recommend the guy to their GM and try to sign him to a big minor league deal. And baseball money is bigger in US too than Japan if i'm not mistaken...

Can someone give me a scouting report on him? His height/weight, the pitches he throws, how hard he throws, etc.

I personally don't like Japanese pitchers. I heard that after a Japanese pitcher is taken out of the game, he goes to the bullpen and start throwing again. And i heard a lot of Japanese players damage their arms like that.

I believe that might be the reason why Matsui Kazuo switch to a Shortstop??

persiantiger
08 Aug 2004, 03:17 PM
Anybody have pics of this guy?

Oh and is he iranian from his mother side or father's? You don't see many japanese-iranians these days maybe me and hama or me and skip have produced one and we don't know about it :eek:

persiantiger
08 Aug 2004, 03:27 PM
Err Just realized that his last name is "darvish" so his father must be the iranian... ahh just like me and hama what shoul we name our lil girl sweet cheeks?..... whats up Dr.shady? What I am not the father? hama you whore!

skipshady
08 Aug 2004, 03:36 PM
Yeah i heard that High School Baseball tournament is very very popular over there. I do not know exactly why a high school sport would be that popular tho.Think of it like college football or Final Four in basketball. Players aren't as good as the pros, but people like the tradition and they believe amateur athletes are "pure" and have more passion.

toohyper
08 Aug 2004, 04:45 PM
Think of it like college football or Final Four in basketball. Players aren't as good as the pros, but people like the tradition and they believe amateur athletes are "pure" and have more passion.

exactly, but college football and final four is in fact collegiate players. The popular tourney u got over there is high school. That is somewhat a bit shocking but i could understand it since Japan is pretty damn popular in baseball.

skipshady
08 Aug 2004, 08:22 PM
exactly, but college football and final four is in fact collegiate players. The popular tourney u got over there is high school. That is somewhat a bit shocking but i could understand it since Japan is pretty damn popular in baseball.
Another factor that helps high school baseball is tht Koshien is the biggest truly national baseball tournament in Japan. Professional baseball only has 12 teams and most of them are in the greater Tokyo or Osaka region, while the only collegiate baseball to speak of are the six Tokyo universities.

At Koshien, every prefecture in Japan is represented and people like to root for smaller teams from rural areas because they play to the "uncorrupted young athletes overcoming odds" storyline, so it is a lot like the cinderella teams in the NCAA tournament.

cakrabirawa
09 Aug 2004, 12:48 AM
my aim open this topic is for brink peace between Iranian & Japanese after
AC'04, (especially Hama & Persian tiger ) lol ..

Here it's some news I could find about him..

Japanese Baseball News: Up to Five MLB Teams Interested in High Schooler Darvish
Angels, Mets Seeking Some Iranian-Japanese Takeaway

According to Hochi Sports, the Dodgers, Mets and Angels are trying to sign big Tohoku High School righthander Yu Darvish, who will go in the first round of the 2004 November pro draft. The paper quotes an unnamed MLB scouting official as offering that "he has a good body and has the tools to really develop into something. He's a diamond in the rough."

Moreover, both the Angels and Braves have been tracking Darvish since he played in Boys League in junior high and San Diego is mulling sending somebody to see him as well.

The competition for the 6'4" 175 pound Iranian-Japanese 17 year old's services is already intense, with at least five Japanese nines hoping to reel him in, Hiroshima, Nippon Ham, Chunichi, Daiei and Orix. In addition, it is thought that Hanshin could jump into this as well.

Darvish has been clocked as high as 92mph and features a good sinker, slider, changeup, and knuckle curve ball. He had some back trouble last year that hindered his performance at the summer Koshien Tournament, but there hasen't been any indication that the backaches have persisted. Darvish can sign with an MLB team at anytime since he is older than 16, but since he is his team's captain, it is thought that he will wait until he graduates before he might make any decision.

From a marketing standpoint, Anaheim could gain substantially if Darvish prospers under their tutelage. Orange County, especially Garden Grove, has a big Persian community in addition to its sizable contingent of Asian-Americans. His father, a former Iranian national soccer team member, met his Japanese wife in the U.S. and they have lived near Osaka since wedding. Consequently, the human interest angle would be another selling point.

Source :http://baseballguru.com/archives/entries/00000671.htm

cakrabirawa
09 Aug 2004, 12:55 AM
Tohoku High's Darvish hurls no-hitter at Koshien

NISHINOMIYA, Hyogo Pref. (Kyodo) Tohoku High School right-hander Yu Darvish pitched a no-hitter in the Miyagi Prefecture school's 2-0 victory over Kumamoto Kogyo at the national high school baseball invitational tournament on Friday.
The 17-year-old allowed just three runners on base, on two walks and an error, in the first-round game at Koshien Stadium. He struck out 12 batters in a 129-pitch outing.
Darvish, whose father is Iranian and mother Japanese, became the 12th player in history to toss a no-hitter in the spring high school invitational.
source :http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getsp.pl5?sb20040327a2.htm

ANA says no to Cuban pitcher, begins chase for Japanese teenager

" ... After the Angels scouted a workout by Cuban defector Maels Rodriguez, one in which the pitcher reportedly failed to top 90 mph, Stoneman said the team would not offer him a contract. However, the Angels are believed to be interested in signing a Japanese high school pitcher, Yu Darvish, 17.
source :http://www.attheplate.com/2004/04_rookies_9.htm

Teenager throws 150km fastball for Japanese school

Yu Darvish stands out from his Japanese teammates in more ways than one.
Darvish, who is the ace pitcher for Tohoku High School at this month's national high school baseball championships, is 194cm tall.
He also represents the changing face of the tournament, which is broadcast live all day by national broadcaster NHK. For years it was a bastion of Japanese baseball homogeneity. But with more and more Japanese getting married to foreigners, it's inevitable that players like Darvish will become more common.
Darvish's father is Iranian, his mother Japanese. The two met while attending university in the US.
This year's tournament has also included players with Brazilian and Vietnamese roots.The 17-year-old Darvish used his 150km fastball to strike out the side in the opening inning of Monday's 11-6 win over Fukuoka's Chikuyo Gakuen. He then left the game with a sore back after giving up a pair of runs in the second inning at Koshien Stadium.
"Our manager asked me if I could keep going," said Darvish, in his second year at Tohoku. "When I hesitated, he took me out."
In addition to a blistering fastball that has caught the attention of major league scouts, Darvish can throw curves and change-ups for strikes.
If he has one fault, some have questioned his grit. He clearly came unglued after committing an error in Monday's second inning and has a tendency to get flustered by umpire's calls.
"He has all the tools," said Isao Ojimi, the New York Mets' Far East scout. "If he got a good grounding in the minors, I'm confident he could play in the majors someday. But he's got to learn to deal with the umpire's calls and change his attitude on the mound."
Tohoku is famous for already producing one star major leaguer -- Kazuhiro Sasaki of the Seattle Mariners -- and the Koshien tournament is quickly becoming a breeding ground for future major league stars. Hideki Matsui, Shigetoshi Hasegawa and Kazuhisa Ishii all played in the annual tournament.
At the prefectural (state) semifinals, Darvish was so overpowering he notched 11 straight strikeouts and 13 overall to lead his team to the finals.
The high school baseball tournament, known simply as Koshien, is serious business in Japan. Teams from all 48 prefectures (states) fiercely contend for the title.
A trip to Koshien can be so rare that players from losing teams gather up little packets of dirt from the infield to keep as souvenirs.
source :http://taipeitimes.com/News/sport/archives/2003/08/15/2003063895/print

cakrabirawa
09 Aug 2004, 01:23 AM
High school ace pitches historic no-hitter at Koshien

NISHINOMIYA, Hyogo -- Yu Darvish, Tohoku High School's ace pitcher, accomplished a no-hit, no-run game to help his club defeat Kumamoto Technical during the national high school baseball tourney Friday.
Darvish is well known in high school baseball circles as a promising pitcher.His no-hitter is the first in 10 years for the national spring high school baseball tourney, officials said.

Tohoku High School, from Miyagi Prefecture, beat Kumamoto Technical 2-0 in the first round of eliminations in the 76th National High School Baseball Tournament.

The spring tourney, sponsored by the Mainichi Newspapers and the Japan High School Baseball Federation, is one of the two biggest annual high school baseball events held at Koshien Baseball Stadium in Nishinomiya, Hyogo Prefecture. (Mainichi Daily News, Japan, March 26, 2004)
http://www12.mainichi.co.jp/news/mdn/search-news/910019/yu20darvish-0-1.html

persiantiger
09 Aug 2004, 03:20 AM
my aim open this topic is for brink peace between Iranian & Japanese after
AC'04, (especially Hama & Persian tiger ) lol ..




err me and hama are the bests of friends! you need to post something about a chinese-korean or a chinese-iranian or a chinese-japanese person to bring peace to this place!

anyways again i ask any pics of this guy?

btw I hate baseball I think baseball along with cricket are the most boring sports in the world..

Mani
09 Aug 2004, 07:48 AM
Wasn't already there an Iranian-Japanese playing in the Japan's major League? What was his name? I think he's in his 20's!

toohyper
09 Aug 2004, 07:55 AM
this Darvish throws 92 at most? What so impressive bout that? Jeez...and i thought he threw 95+.

I don't care how impressive his curveball is....or his other pitches...

tako
09 Aug 2004, 10:36 AM
small pic.

http://www.tokyo-np.co.jp/00/spo/20040327/20040327c-top.jpg
http://img.sanspo.com/image/040809daruKT140809.jpg


His team won first game today in Koshien tournament. 13-0. big win. He pitched a shutout.

I don't think there is or was a Iranian or Iranian-Japanese professional player in Japan. He will be the first player.
After WCQ in 1993 , Jubilo Iwata wanted Daei , but he declined.

Thomas Flannigan
09 Aug 2004, 10:50 AM
Does anyone here know about the great Russian pitcher, Viktor Sarkin (or Sarfin)? I saw a program on NHK about him 16 years ago. There is also a photo of him in the Japanese Baseball Hall of Fame inside the Tokyo Dome, but I have not been able to find anything else about him. There was also a sumo yokozuna, I think Taihyo, who was half Russian and half Japanese.
Oh Sadaharu is also half Taiwanese, while quite a few great Japanese baseball players were ethnically Korean. Kaneda's myoji had a first character for his Korean name, Kim,

Fifty-nine years ago today, a young zainichi Kankokujin was supposed to go for his morning run with a mate. His friend arrived at 8:00 and the Korean said he was tired, he wanted to skip the run. His friend made a ruckus, and finally the young Korean ran outside and started jogging to the outskirts of Hirshoshima. At 8:15, the A-bomb went off, killing his family and neighbors.

The young boy was Harimoto Isao, who won 8 consective Japanese batting titles and batted behind Oh for the kyojin. Harimoto is very sensitive about his Korean ancestry. Kunagasa, the man who broke Lou Gehrig's record for consecutive games, is even more sensitive about his African-American background. I think Kunagaga is half Japanese, half African-American.

muse
10 Aug 2004, 02:50 PM
Yeah i heard that High School Baseball tournament is very very popular over there. I do not know exactly why a high school sport would be that popular tho.

If this guy is as good as u say he is, then there's no doubt that atleast 1 scout from a Major league baseball team will recommend the guy to their GM and try to sign him to a big minor league deal. And baseball money is bigger in US too than Japan if i'm not mistaken...

Can someone give me a scouting report on him? His height/weight, the pitches he throws, how hard he throws, etc.

I personally don't like Japanese pitchers. I heard that after a Japanese pitcher is taken out of the game, he goes to the bullpen and start throwing again. And i heard a lot of Japanese players damage their arms like that.

I believe that might be the reason why Matsui Kazuo switch to a Shortstop??


My mother hates professional baseball. Yet, she adores High School Baseball. She just thinks that it is privilege to watch these young kids play their hearts out. As it is, it is very hard to even participate in Koshien. She believes there is a certain purity to High School baseball that can not be seen elsewhere. Her favorite part is watching the young players, after they loose, pull out their little sacks and fill them in with the sand from Koshien Stadium. The players take these sacks as souvenirs.

Baseball money is much bigger in the US than Japan. But Japanese Players don’t go to the Major League for the money. Most of the Japanese Players that have gone to the Major League would make a lot more money in Japan. Matsui Hideki refused a huge contract with the Tokyo Giants to join the New York Yankees. A lot of the Players go for the challenge. I am sure it is the same way for Korean Players.

Do you personally dislike Japanese Pitchers because they are Japanese or because of the way they pitch? I did not know there was a particular pitching style that is unique to Japanese Pitchers. Perhaps there is and I just haven’t noticed. I do not watch a lot of baseball. So, my knowledge on this subject is very limited. I only watch the Sports programs that give the result of the games and occasionally show a mini-documentary of some player. I have never heard of any pitcher being taken out of the game and being sent straight to the bullpen to throw. It might be true but it doesn’t make any sense. Why would a baseball organization spend a lot of time and effort to produce a good pitcher and ruin his arm? :confused: I’ve only seen pitchers getting their arms iced after being taken out of a game.

I believe a lot of Star Japanese baseball players used to be pitchers when they were in High School. Oh Sadaharu, Suzuki Ichiro, Matsui Kazuo, were all pitchers in High School (they all went to Koshien). I do not know if you know all of these players. But if you’ve ever seen Ichiro (Seattle Mariners) throw the ball from the outfield, you can guess that he was a pitcher. I’ve heard that Ichiro to this day, wishes that he could have been a pitcher. It appears like his talent lied elsewhere. Matsui Kazuo has been struggling in the Major Leagues and is currently the worst Short Stop (in my opinion). I don’t know if he would have been a good pitcher professionally. I hope he improves by next season. Hopefully he will do better now.

Hey I thought control was a bigger factor than speed for Pitchers. There are a lot of Major League Pitchers that do not have a lot of speed and are star pitchers. Maybe Darvish has good control and has become the focus of so much attention. After all, he is only 17. Under good professional guidance, there is much room for improvement. I think that every year, the star pitchers of Koshien receive offers to join the MLB. Some have gone but not found much success. A few have done well. Yet, the Pitchers do better after they play for about ten years in the Japanese Pro League. When they become free agents they usually want to join MLB. It will be interesting to see what Darvish chooses to do.

cakrabirawa
11 Aug 2004, 12:51 AM
btw how many Asian player in US ?
maybe My Japanese 'N Korean friends can answer this..

IMO its good if Asian had alot player like Ichiro in US, he's what a darn player..