SLC spots considered for stadium

[Arelius]

I don't know if this article has already been posted to a thread but its the latest on spots around Salt Lake that are being considered for the stadium:

Possible sites
Here are some of the sites being kicked around for Utah's new Major League Soccer stadium:

* Salt Lake City
West of The Gateway.
A planned soccer complex near 2200 North and Redwood Road.
Ten undisclosed areas.
* Sandy
Between 8000 South and 9000 South along 700 West near the Jordan River.
* West Jordan
Near 7800 South and 4000 West at existing soccer complex.
Off the New Bingham Highway near 8800 South and 6000 West (currently Ron Wood Memorial Park)
West of City Hall at 8000 S. Redwood Road
* Murray
North of 4500 South and west of State Street near the Murray North TRAX Station.

http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2389393

[PumaJohnny]

article with some info:
http://www.ussocceruk.com/news/?CatTypeId=2&ContentId=1802

Anyone got info on who is leading the possible bids for Sandy, West Jordan and Murray?

The article indicates that a non-SLC area would be a long-shot, but I'm interested in who represents these offers.

[mckid]

Interesting stuff. I for one would like a stadium downtown. But, I found this article this morning that makes me wonder if that will happen.

http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595082186,00.html

Checketts sounds up beat, but a tad dissapointed.

[Rockey J Squirrel]

Please Dave C: Mention my name when you quote my ideas expressed previously in various posts.
South Jordon: Not a lot of room and the open area is across the road/TRAX line to be built. It is a overflight zone for SCL airport #2, OK for play fields, not for Stadiums. Wind problem.
Why no interest from West Valley? They have room North of the E-Center (if the power lines go) with future TRAX, the original Blitzz site at 21st and I-215, small with expensive access, or where they have proposed a soccer field before at the international communities center or next to it where they proposed putting the Zoo's new site, with future TRAX.
Murray: Most central, with TRAX and Freeway. both the redevlopment area west of the Freeway and the IHC Hospital/Old Fairgrounds/Murray City Park have great access. But if they build on the 4500 South site the team should be called the Silver Cups (only fish growers will know that is where the best fish food was made)
Old Mill Tailings sites such as Midvale offer cheap land that would be properly put to public use with park, fields and stadium construction with good access.
Downtown: Hizzoner's favorite, but the site's rail removal/rerouting, cleanup and access creation will put out completion 3 or 4 years and lots of money, and maybe the Gateway might not want them.
Consideration must be made for the soil and geological situation of each site. Some could have a high water table and any of the flat land sites may be on soil with liquifation in an earthquake situation. Building on piling going into the hundreds of feet deep lake slit/brine shrimp egg-case fill is not very cost effective. Dry alluvial gravel/rock away from the Wasatch fault is the best choice

[SoccerPrime]

I've been posting all info on SLC MLS Stadium options on the Supporters website:
http://www.geocities.com/slc_mls
click on Stadiums on the left.

[Rockey J Squirrel]

Good! But fix the links so the will get past Cerbian filtering.
mine says "blocked-Gay and Lesbian" for a couple of them.

[SoccerPrime]

Sorry, but I only speak and understand English. Can you run that by me again and tell me whats really wrong with the website?

[prk166]

Good! But fix the links so the will get past Cerbian filtering.
mine says "blocked-Gay and Lesbian" for a couple of them.

Sounds like a cheap filter, IMHO. And besides, what are you doing surfing the web at work?!?!??? :)

[prk166]

I'd be curious about the West valley. Strikes me as an area ready for some development / redevelopment. I saw that there are plans for running an east-west trax line into that area plus preliminary plans for a north-south street car / BRT / Trax line and even a new freeway.

Also, in looking at SLC I've seen talk about 2 downtowns. What's the scoop on this?

[SoccerPrime]

I think SLC is trying to build a "new" downtown or something.

[aosthed]

The city has talked about building a second downtown around the Gateway area which is also why many of the businesses around mainstreat are suffering. However, I think they should look South...

It was always my impression that the second city "hub" was to at 106th South in Sandy. It's an area that is developing well and is very convenient to all the majority of the residential areas. They already have a convention center bringing a stadium would be good.

[jasoncox]

I think they should focus on building it either downtown or in northwest SLC. Putting it south of SLC would, in my opinion, be a mistake. They might lose out on potential fans coming from Logan as it would make the drive about a half-hour longer.

If they're going to try to use the stadium as a means of trying to "revitalize" a rundown portion of the city, it wouldn't make sense to put it down south either. That area doesn't exactly need to be revitalized. I would vote for putting it west of the gateway or somewhere close to the I-15, I-215 north junction. Isn't that where the new soccer complex is going? They might be able to leverage that.

[dysko]

The city has talked about building a second downtown around the Gateway area which is also why many of the businesses around mainstreat are suffering. However, I think they should look South...

It was always my impression that the second city "hub" was to at 106th South in Sandy. It's an area that is developing well and is very convenient to all the majority of the residential areas. They already have a convention center bringing a stadium would be good.


True the second Salt Lake Metro Area hub is at 106th, but Salt Lake City is trying to regain the dominance it once had with the downtown area. So I doubt that the City is going to say yeah take it to Sandy they are really the developing area. It is all about tax revenu. The SLC will fight to have the new stadium in city boundries so they can get $$$ from taxes for years to come.

That being said, I am sure Sandy would love the stadium and will put up a solid bid to get it.

[Sean Reynolds]

I think the best location would be downtown, since downtown SLC *SHOULD* be the hub for the region. Plus if they build it by the proposed site, it'll be right next to an already built light-rail station, thus giving it amazing access to most in the valley.

I also might note that if tax-payers will foot the bill, Salt Lakers are probably a bit more open to spending money on such a plan, whereas the county as a whole may not be as open.

I think it'll probably be located in Salt Lake City's city limits, being there are also 10 other locations within the city that haven't been mentioned.

[prk166]

I think they should focus on building it either downtown or in northwest SLC. Putting it south of SLC would, in my opinion, be a mistake. They might lose out on potential fans coming from Logan as it would make the drive about a half-hour longer.


I'm a little confused as to how Sandy being 10 miles south of SLC adds a 1/2 hour of driving. Maybe I'll figure that one out after I figure out the signifigance that a town of 45k 80+ miles from SLC will have to attendance figures.


If they're going to try to use the stadium as a means of trying to "revitalize" a rundown portion of the city, it wouldn't make sense to put it down south either. That area doesn't exactly need to be revitalized. I would vote for putting it west of the gateway or somewhere close to the I-15, I-215 north junction. Isn't that where the new soccer complex is going? They might be able to leverage that.

Good point.

[jasoncox]

I'm a little confused as to how Sandy being 10 miles south of SLC adds a 1/2 hour of driving. Maybe I'll figure that one out after I figure out the signifigance that a town of 45k 80+ miles from SLC will have to attendance figures.

Well, sure if you look at it LOGICALLY but why should I start now?

Apparently you've never tried to get from downtown to Sandy during rush hour. Imagine a Wednesday or Friday night game in Sandy. You'd have give yourself atleast an extra 45 minutes just to from South SLC to Sandy.

When you're living in the smallest market in MLS, you need all the support you can get. If San Jose can get fans from Sacramento, why can't we get fans from Logan? We need everyone we can get.

[dweed]

[QUOTE=prk166]I'm a little confused as to how Sandy being 10 miles south of SLC adds a 1/2 hour of driving. Maybe I'll figure that one out after I figure out the signifigance that a town of 45k 80+ miles from SLC will have to attendance figures.

I live in Logan and I would be much less likely to travel to Sandy than to Salt Lake to see a game. All the traffic congestion through the Salt Lake area easily adds 20-30min to the trip from Salt Lake to Sandy. Plus if I'm going to make the hour and a half trip to see the game I'd like to be close to downtown SLC where there is much more to do after the game than in Sandy. Sandy's endless suppply of strip malls and generic housing communities just doesn't do it for me. There are plenty of soccer fans to the north in Logan & Ogden, as well as to the south in Provo & Orem. Don't make us travel to Sandy. You might as well stick the stadium out in Tooele!

[aosthed]

I live in Logan and I would be much less likely to travel to Sandy than to Salt Lake to see a game. All the traffic congestion through the Salt Lake area easily adds 20-30min to the trip from Salt Lake to Sandy. Plus if I'm going to make the hour and a half trip to see the game I'd like to be close to downtown SLC where there is much more to do after the game than in Sandy. Sandy's endless suppply of strip malls and generic housing communities just doesn't do it for me. There are plenty of soccer fans to the north in Logan & Ogden, as well as to the south in Provo & Orem. Don't make us travel to Sandy. You might as well stick the stadium out in Tooele!

Obviously it's a tradeoff of how many people they think they could get North of say Bountiful/Farmington and how many they could get South...

Unfortunately the diehard fan is NOT the one Checketts & Co will be worrying about (they are likely to come if it is 30min or 60 min). They are much more worried about enticing the other 500k who live between Provo and the Southern half of the Salt Lake Valley OR the 500k who live between the North half of the Salt Lake Valley and Ogden.

As far as demographics go, it's about population density and distance.

[jasoncox]

They are much more worried about enticing the other 500k who live between Provo and the Southern half of the Salt Lake Valley OR the 500k who live between the North half of the Salt Lake Valley and Ogden.

The drive from Ogden to SLC and from Provo to SLC is about the same, 35-45 minutes in good traffic. I think regardless of where they put the stadium they're going to attract those fans.

It's more a matter of who they're trying to attract beyond Ogden and Provo. I would think that they would do better trying to tap the Logan/USU market rather than the Spanish Fork/Santaquin Area. Any further South or North I don't consider an issue. If you're coming up from Cedar City or St. George or if you coming down from Idaho what's another 30 minutes? My hat's off to you just for making the trip!

[dweed]

The drive from Ogden to SLC and from Provo to SLC is about the same, 35-45 minutes in good traffic. I think regardless of where they put the stadium they're going to attract those fans.

It's more a matter of who they're trying to attract beyond Ogden and Provo. I would think that they would do better trying to tap the Logan/USU market rather than the Spanish Fork/Santaquin Area. Any further South or North I don't consider an issue. If you're coming up from Cedar City or St. George or if you coming down from Idaho what's another 30 minutes? My hat's off to you just for making the trip!

I completely agree!!! :)