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BuffloSoldier
06 Aug 2004, 09:56 AM
A lot of interested parties in hosting Checketts' new pad. (http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_2389393)

Blitzz Boy
06 Aug 2004, 10:17 AM
I can't believe that West Valley City, whose government has never met a pork barrel project it didn't like, is not in the bidding for this.

Yes, I would like to have Victoria Street next to a Trax stop.

But just so that everyone is clear, especially that SLC city councilman Dave Buhler, taxpayer-funded stadiums never cause economic development. Sometimes it's just the opposite. Studies run by economists on of every political persuasion confirm this.

http://www.fieldofschemes.com has more information.

Wallydrag
06 Aug 2004, 10:17 AM
Aside from the "As fans know, scoring in soccer can be elusive. Even so, Salt Lake Valley cities are lining up to host a rash of 1-0 games." jab, it was an interesting article.

Nice to see that they have a lot of option to look at and whittle down, especially so early own. I was afriad they'd be at Rice-Eccles Stadium for 3 or 4 years before the got down to the nitty gritty.

The $20 million price tag though seems very, very small. Even for SLC. I think Crew Stadium was at least $25 million. If the budget is $20 million then I'd expect a bare bones stadium in the same vain as Crew Stadium instead of one with a lot of amenities and design like the HDC.

DoctorD
06 Aug 2004, 10:19 AM
I can't believe that West Valley City, whose government has never met a pork barrel project it didn't like, is not in the bidding for this.

Yes, I would like to have Victoria Street next to a Trax stop.

But just so that everyone is clear, especially that SLC city councilman Dave Buhler, taxpayer-funded stadiums never cause economic development. Sometimes it's just the opposite. Studies run by economists on of every political persuasion confirm this.

http://www.fieldofschemes.com has more information.

Man, thanks for raining on the parade, Blitzz Boy. Wait until the entire league has SSS before bringing that up.

SoccerPrime
06 Aug 2004, 10:28 AM
Here is Deseret News' article on the same subject:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595082186,00.html

Wallydrag
06 Aug 2004, 10:31 AM
I can't believe that West Valley City, whose government has never met a pork barrel project it didn't like, is not in the bidding for this.

Yes, I would like to have Victoria Street next to a Trax stop.

But just so that everyone is clear, especially that SLC city councilman Dave Buhler, taxpayer-funded stadiums never cause economic development. Sometimes it's just the opposite. Studies run by economists on of every political persuasion confirm this.

http://www.fieldofschemes.com has more information.

In OKC, the Ford Center Arena was totally tax-payer funded ($89 million) and has already payed for itself in the economic development it has created. More high-end music stars and bands come through for concerts than ever before. Two new hotels have been built and opened adjacent to the arena. The Big 12 basketball tournament will be played here in 2007, providing an economic impact of $15-$20 million. Everyone here is very, very happy with the positive things that has come along with the Ford Center, from concerts to private investment, etc.

Lizzie Bee
06 Aug 2004, 11:14 AM
The $20 million price tag though seems very, very small. Even for SLC. I think Crew Stadium was at least $25 million. If the budget is $20 million then I'd expect a bare bones stadium in the same vain as Crew Stadium instead of one with a lot of amenities and design like the HDC.

I wonder how land and construction prices compare in the two spots. That makes a big difference in overall cost. Land prices in Utah are rising, but nothing comparable to the larger cities in the US.

Blitzz Boy
06 Aug 2004, 12:06 PM
I wonder how land and construction prices compare in the two spots. That makes a big difference in overall cost. Land prices in Utah are rising, but nothing comparable to the larger cities in the US.

Land prices for The Green Jello Bowl might be free if they use some of that land west of Gateway that no one has wanted since just after World War II.

Taxpayer subsidies of stadiums are a ripoff, but deals like Larry Miller got are not that bad in comparison. At the time, no one was too interested in the land that the Delta Center now sits on so I can't be too mad about the city giving it to the Jazz.

Wally, those hotels & rent for the Regionals generated $89 million? You need to lower your lodging taxes & property taxes.........

ElJefe
06 Aug 2004, 12:38 PM
Here is Deseret News' article on the same subject:
http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595082186,00.html
Not that it's relevant to Salt Lake in any way, but this passage is a bit inaccurate:
"But if we really want this to be part of the solution to downtown, we're going to have to identify other locations, other than what we've seen. I'd love it to be on public transportation. I'd love it to be something that spurs more economic development," he said.

Houston has seen that happen. The city built Reliant Stadium for the National Football League Texans and Minute Maid Park for baseball's Astros, along with a nearby convention center. The new stadiums helped the city land a Super Bowl and the recent baseball All-Star Game.

"And the whole scenario just works," he said. "The downtown is alive in Houston. So I believe sports and sports facilities can be used to help these kinds of situations, and I'd like to be part of the solution."
Reliant Stadium is not in downtown Houston. It's right next to the Astrodome, in southwest Houston, several miles from downtown.

It is, however, on Metro's new light rail line that goes to downtown.

REStad
07 Aug 2004, 06:21 PM
You figure Utah built Rice-Eccles for $50 Million, a stadium that's almost twice as big, and, is quite nice ammenity wise.

Frankly Covey Field, which seats 15,500, cost roughly $23 Million or so, and is one of the nicest fields in AAA baseball.

$20 Million actually sounds about right for a stadium in Salt Lake.

Aside from the "As fans know, scoring in soccer can be elusive. Even so, Salt Lake Valley cities are lining up to host a rash of 1-0 games." jab, it was an interesting article.

Nice to see that they have a lot of option to look at and whittle down, especially so early own. I was afriad they'd be at Rice-Eccles Stadium for 3 or 4 years before the got down to the nitty gritty.

The $20 million price tag though seems very, very small. Even for SLC. I think Crew Stadium was at least $25 million. If the budget is $20 million then I'd expect a bare bones stadium in the same vain as Crew Stadium instead of one with a lot of amenities and design like the HDC.

Americano e Orgulho
07 Aug 2004, 06:39 PM
But just so that everyone is clear, especially that SLC city councilman Dave Buhler, taxpayer-funded stadiums never cause economic development. Sometimes it's just the opposite. Studies run by economists on of every political persuasion confirm this.

http://www.fieldofschemes.com has more information.

Yes, stadiums may not cause economic development in the way that many owners or GM's proclaim, but to say never is a bit close minded. As far as any studies done, sponsored, or approved by fieldofschemes, they should be taken with a grain of salt because they are obviously not an unbiased source(if such a thing actually exists). Good luck with the stadium and team.