All Indonesian Origin But maybe some of them has change theirs Club : Holland Ajax Amsterdam 01. Johnny Heitinga 02. Michael Timisela 03. Sven Taberima 04. Christian Supusepa 05. Robert Timisela AZ Alkmaar 01. Mathijs Maruanaya 02. Gaston Salasiwa FC Groningen 01. Ignacio Tuhuteru 02. Raphael Tuankotta FC Utrecht 01. Marciano Kastoredjo 02. Max Lohy 03. Stefano Lilipaly FC Zwolle 01. Dominggus Lim-Duan 02. Naeljoe Latumahina 03. Juan Hatumena 04. Petu Toisuta Feyenoord Rotterdam 01. Djilmar Lawansuka NAC Breda 01. Levi Risamasu 02. Aaron Siwalette NEC Nijmegen 01. Jeffrey Leiwakabessy 02. Gino Berhitu 03. Miquel Matekohy 04. Mahiri Sabandar 05. Ruben Wuarbanaran PSV Eindhoven 01. Djay Hardjotinojo RBC Roosendaal 01. Juan Viedma Schenkhuizen RKC Waalwijk 01. Farley Kromodikoro SC Heerenveen 01. Jeffrey Talan 02. Mattheus Wattimury Vitesse Arnhem 01. Raymond Soeroredjo Willem II Tilburg 01. Danny Landzaat 02. Justin Tahapary ADO Den Haag 01. Maurice Verberne BVO EMMEN 01. Joram Tupamahu 02. Raphael Tunyluhulima 03. Alain Titahena SC Cambuur Leeuwarden 01. Ferdinand Katipana FC Dordrecht 01. Ab Persijn 02. Domingoes Titiheru FC Eindhoven 01. Fachry Tuasamu Fortuna Sittard 01. Samuel Pattinaja 02. Serge Leuhena 03. Jemayel Maruanaja GA Eagles 01. Jango Ngutra HFC Haarlem 01. Raphael Supusepa Opstelling ACV 01. Bob Pontjodikromo 02. Lucien Sahetapy Play in other country Glasgow Celtic (scotland): Bobby Petta Barcelona (Spain): Giovanni van Bronckhorst Deportivo la Coruna (Spain): Roy Makaay Hansa Rostock (Germany): Delano Hill Carraresse (Italy serie C1): Elijah Louhenapessy Al Jazira (UAE): Bart Latuheru Coach : Germinal Beerschot Junior (Belgia) Simon Tahamata Vught, 26 May 1956 FC Koeln (Jerman) Jos Luhukay Venlo, 13 June 1963 Nagoya Grampus Eight Junior (Jepang) Stanley Brard Jakarta, 24 October 1958 Fortuna Sittard Junior (Holland) John Taihuttu Top Oss (Holland) Harry Van Den Ham Bandung, 16 Agustus 1954 Unitas Junior (Holland- Amateur) Sonny Silooy Rotterdam, 31 Agustus 1963 Delta Sports (Holland-Amateur) Ton Pattinama 30 July 1956
Damn wrong post..!!! Mod..could U help me remove this post to asian forum, please.. well I dunno what happen to me right now
Only Dutch player of Indonesian mix I knew of is Van Bronckhorst, but I had no idea there were this much. Good stuff.
Yeah..Imagine if some them play for they origin country, Indonesia play in WC, not only dream anymore.. ...my bad, I means Roy Makaay in Bayern Muenchen now not Super Devor..hehehe..'n yes he's Indonesian origin BTW thanks for mods
Who gives a damn about "their origin" Are they actually indonesian? Do you know how many people in US can claim Mexican or Irish origin? I wouldn't be amazed if it's more than 50% of the population.
Considering Indonesia was a Dutch colony until 1942, many, if not the majority of Indonesian soccer players have parents who were born under Dutch rule, so I imagine most of them can claim eligibility for either Holland or Indonesia. Not to get off topic, but what percentage of Americans claim Mexican or Irish ancestry? 10.8% for Ireland and 6.5% for Mexico. Source
Have you herad of a player named Jan Peters in the 1980's. There is actually two player with the same name. One of them was Indonesian. He was capped by Dutch.
for giovanni van bronckhorst he is 100% indonesian...his father is indonesian and his mother is mollucan(thats indonesian,eventho the mollucan people said they want seperate from indonesia)
they are dutch but they can change their nationality to indonesian,only if they never been capped.And i think they prefer to be dutch since it is easier to play around europe.
During the Dutch rule in Indonesia, many Indonesian joined as Dutch Army. Many of them were from Mollucas. After the independence of Indonesia in August 1945, there were few rebellions demanding for Independence. One of them was from Mollucan people that was supported by Dutch. After that war, thousands of Mollucans moved to Netherland as a recoqnition for their service in the Army. So it is not surprising that many Indonesians now are playing in Europe. Tabaus
A lot of top players are eligible for a number of countries (or would be, if they hadn't been capped). Australia has quite a few top players they would have liked to have got their hooks into, not least of which being Christian Vieri. The best players generally elect to be capped for the best footballing country they're eligible for. Many French and English 'colonials' have played for the mother country this way (Zidane, anyone?). Kind of a shame for the smaller countries, but what can you do?
True. Better examples would be Vieira (Senegal) or Makelele (Congo?). And you have the Surinamese contingent in the Dutch squad (Davids, Seedorf, Kluivert), but Suriname gained independence from Holland after those players were born, so I don't see anything wrong or strange about them playing for Holland as they were born Dutch citizens.
So, why doesn't indonesia have good national team ? why don't Indonesian football federation call those players to play for indonesia ? ...by the way Ruud Guulit is also has abit of indonesian blood, he is a Surinam origin and most of Surinam are originaly from Indonesia, were brought there by Colonial ducth long time ago.
thats easy Bcoz our football federation suck.. 'n yeah I know Ruud Guulit had abit Indonesian blood, he said this by his self during visiting Indonesia with PSV when he still play there.. at 1988 if iam not wrong
yeah its true..indonesian football association sucks..but I hope they can improve their football quality in a near future
'cause I was born in Indonesia to Dutch parents and I'd never consider myself an "Indonesian". (I do enjoy the food though).
I meant a 'colonial' (note quote marks) in terms of both his parents being Algerian. For people born with eligibility for duel citizenship, it's effectively a toss-up when trying to determine which country they have the most affinity for. It could be their country of birth, the homeland of their parents, or the place they grew up. I bear no malice to any player regarding his choice, but the reality is that many players will choose to play for the best possible team they can.
'but thats only ur opinion.. Michelle Branch for example, she is feel Indonesian 'N she is Somebody..