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wolfsburgh
29 Jul 2004, 02:55 PM
A thread for posting your predictions for the upcoming Bundesliga season. My top 10:

Prediction #1: A coach will get fired before the winter break (Lienen is my odds-on pick), and a coach will get fired after the winter break (Jara, perhaps) (yeah, I know, I'm going out on a limb for that one).

Prediction #2: Bayern will win the BL, by a large margin.

Prediction #3: Stuttgart will finish second.

Prediction #4: Schalke will finish third.

Prediction #5: Bremen will finish fourth.

Prediction #6: Dortmund will finish fifth.

Prediction #7: Leverkusen, Hertha, Wolfsburg and Hamburg round out the rest of the top half of the table.

Prediction #8: Roy Makaay will lead the BL in goals scored.

Prediction #9: The following teams will be threatened with relegation: Mainz, Bielefeld, Nuremberg, Hannover, Bochum, Rostock, and Kaiserslautern. At the end, I'm guessing that Mainz, Hannover and Nuremberg will be relegated.

Prediction #10: Cologne, TSV and Duisburg will be promoted.

Dead Fingers
29 Jul 2004, 05:23 PM
Any predictions about German teams in Europe (Champions League and UEFA Cup) this year. Hopefully will be not as abysmal as last year.

hertha supporter
29 Jul 2004, 06:07 PM
#1 Schalke 04 will unfortunately win the Bundesliga title...

#2 Bayern will be second

#3 Dortmund will be close to be relegated

#4 VfB Struttgart will get the other CL spot, with Hertha and Bremen getting the UEFA spots

#5 Rostock, Bielefeld and Nurnburg will be relegated

Alex_K
30 Jul 2004, 04:59 AM
My predictions:

Champions: Bayern

CL: Stuttgart, Bremen

UEFA-Cup: Schalke, Leverkusen or Hertha

UI-Cup: Dortmund, Leverkusen or Hertha, Rostock or Bochum

Wolfsburg will finish 9th.

Relegated: In a perfect world this would be Hannover, Wolfsburg and Mainz :D. But i predict Bielefeld (as usuall), Hannover and Nürnberg or one surprise team (maybe even Mainz).

2. Bundesliga: Promoted Cottbus, Köln and a surprise team. Definitely not 1860 and Aachen.

PileD
30 Jul 2004, 09:43 PM
#1 Schalke 04 will unfortunately win the Bundesliga title...

#2 Bayern will be second

#3 Dortmund will be close to be relegated

#4 VfB Struttgart will get the other CL spot, with Hertha and Bremen getting the UEFA spots

#5 Rostock, Bielefeld and Nurnburg will be relegated

I agree, but Schalke wins not unfortunalety, when they win, then they do the right thing and learned about things who runs wrong last season.
Dortmund is relegated, a dream, but they are too strong in the moment.
Next season, ha ha.

Hertha must give 100% more to reach the UEFA spot. One Marcelinho is not a super team. The others must give 150% more.

Rostock will reach the minimum of UEFA Cup, Bochum too, who's going down is very hard to say, it will be a fight till the last second.

Robert25
30 Jul 2004, 11:01 PM
I think Bayern will take the title, Shalke, Stuttgart will finish behind them, and Dortmund and Leverkusen will share the UEFA cup places.

Teams that could surprise a few people: Mochengladbach, Hamburg, and Wolsburg

Teams to be relegated, Hannover, Nurnburg, Bielefield

Mainz will make their Bundesliga stay a little longer... :cool:

BayernWake
03 Aug 2004, 12:20 AM
A thread for posting your predictions for the upcoming Bundesliga season. My top 10:

Prediction #1: A coach will get fired before the winter break (Lienen is my odds-on pick), and a coach will get fired after the winter break (Jara, perhaps) (yeah, I know, I'm going out on a limb for that one).

Prediction #2: Bayern will win the BL, by a large margin.

Prediction #3: Stuttgart will finish second.

Prediction #4: Schalke will finish third.

Prediction #5: Bremen will finish fourth.

Prediction #6: Dortmund will finish fifth.

Prediction #7: Leverkusen, Hertha, Wolfsburg and Hamburg round out the rest of the top half of the table.

Prediction #8: Roy Makaay will lead the BL in goals scored.

Prediction #9: The following teams will be threatened with relegation: Mainz, Bielefeld, Nuremberg, Hannover, Bochum, Rostock, and Kaiserslautern. At the end, I'm guessing that Mainz, Hannover and Nuremberg will be relegated.

Prediction #10: Cologne, TSV and Duisburg will be promoted.


Bochum threatened with relegation? They were pretty solid last season. Also, I hope TSV are promoted...love the Munich derby.

SC Pfullendorf
03 Aug 2004, 01:38 AM
VfB Stuttgart win the BL. Bayern Second, Schalke Third.

Hamburg will be the surprise of the season clinching a UEFA spot alongside Leverkusen/Dortmund/Bremen.

The seven teams listed above will make the Bundesliga a tight race all season long.

Rostock, Bielefield, Mainz/Kaiserslautern relegated.

TSV 1860, 1.FC Köln, Aachen promoted.

godfather9
03 Aug 2004, 06:03 AM
I'm very sure, Lienen will get fired, maybe very fast
Bayern will win the BL, but i don't think it's going to be very boring...
Stuttgart will be second, because Sammer is a very good coach
Bremen will be third, Ailton and Krstajic will be good replaced by Klose and Fahrenhorst
Dortmund will be fourth, because the squad is strong enough for that
Leverkusen, Schalke will finish as fifth and sixth
Hamburg will finish as seventh
Makaay will score 25 goals and be the best goalgetter
Mainz, Bielefeld and Hannover will be relegated
Cologne, Cottbus and 1860 will be promoted

Jens1893
03 Aug 2004, 06:14 PM
Sammer has no clue at all and is possibly the worst coach we could have got.

Vfbstuttgartfan
03 Aug 2004, 06:30 PM
1. Bayern wins title comfortably.
2. Schalke falls just short of a champions league position.
3. Dortmund returns to the bigtime (i.e. champions league football)
4. Leverkusen will lead at one stage.
5. Stuttgart and Bremen will have to contend with uefa cup spots at the most.
6. Hertha BSC will have a poor year again.
7. Wolfsburg will fail to live up to its potential again.
8. Mainz, Arminia Bielefeld and Freiberg will go down.
9. Munich will reach the semi finals in the champions league.
10. Makaay will be top scorer.

Vfbstuttgartfan
03 Aug 2004, 06:34 PM
Sammer has no clue at all and is possibly the worst coach we could have got.

I think Sammer was the smallest risk Stuttgart could have taken, getting a coach who was reasonably successful with an ultrapowerful team, and who the fans liked because he starrred for them last time Stuttgart were champions (1992). Getting Kohler or Schohober would have been riskier since one has only been an assistant coach (and we know what happened to Queiroz when he decided to make the step forward) whereas the other has no experience whatsoever in a big league such as the bundesliga.
Sammer was the obvious choice but i am yet to be convinced by him.

Jens1893
03 Aug 2004, 09:06 PM
I think Sammer was the smallest risk Stuttgart could have taken, getting a coach who was reasonably successful with an ultrapowerful team, and who the fans liked because he starrred for them last time Stuttgart were champions (1992).

Staudt saying he´s one of us (like Staudt did) cos he once won the league with us is a joke. His heart is still in Dortmund and he was only here for 2 years as a player and was off once a decent offer from abroad came in. I didn´t really like him when he was a player and I still don´t like him. He won the league at Dortmund, granted, but he did so by spending more than 50m €. Staudt, sadly, is too naive and doesn´t know a whole lot about the game. He comes across as a decent guy but I´m not convinced by him at all. I´m not happy with the things that have happened since that loss in Leverkusen at all and we´re once again making the same mistakes we always make when we have a decent team. Selling Bordon probably was inevitable, but not reinvesting the fee in a proper replacement is simply scandalous. I´d have rather had Marcelo for one more season than 4m € in the bank. Rather than taking some risk by reinvesting the cash in a proper replacemtn we sign 3 average defenders (and one of them hasn´t played center half in years) and hope one of them might make it. And to top it all off Sammer now wants to sell Yakin, after not even seeing him in training for a week because he´s too lazy or too stupid to give him a chance. Rather than giving Yakin the chance he deserves he apparently banks on Heldt, who last season really struggled at times, and Hleb (giving him #10 is a joke because he is no playmaker and never will be, he has no vision) to do the job although they both last season proved they can´t get it done. It´s ridiculous.

Getting Kohler or Schohober would have been riskier since one has only been an assistant coach (and we know what happened to Queiroz when he decided to make the step forward) whereas the other has no experience whatsoever in a big league such as the bundesliga.
Sammer was the obvious choice but i am yet to be convinced by him.

Well, unlike Sammer Kohler yet has to prove that he´s not good enough and Schachner has had success wherever he´s been.

The Real Madrid job wasn´t Queiroz first job as a head coach, btw.

SirManchester
03 Aug 2004, 11:57 PM
Alright, here I go:

1. The Bavarian Barbarians will once again conquer the Bundesliga with a comfortable margin.
2. King Roy will be the top goal scorer with something like 27 goals.
3. Deisler will lead the league in assists.
4. Ailton will be a GIANT flop with Shalke.
5. THe race for second will be hard to call but I'll go with either Stuttgart, Leverkusen or Bremen.
6. Dortmund will be struggling throughout the season.
7. Koln will come back to the Bundesliga, but 1860 sure as hell won't.

and for the long shot...

8. Bayern will become Champions of Europe, running over Madrid on their way to the final.

Vfbstuttgartfan
04 Aug 2004, 06:47 AM
[QUOTE=SC Pfullendorf]VfB Stuttgart win the BL QUOTE]
I wish...

Vfbstuttgartfan
04 Aug 2004, 06:55 AM
Well, to be honest with you, i do have some confidence that Babbel may turn out with the goods however buying Strenzl and Delpierre was something i never understood. I never understood why Yakin was on the bench last year with Magath at the helm, i hoped that with a new coach this would change, Yakin being the creator with hleb playing further out but i guess Sammer doesnt see things that why. But Stuttgart have a habit of buying players amid huge hype and then nothing happening. Take Centurion, for example, who vfb bought last summer. He did not start a single BL match all year, and he had been our most expensive buy that summer.

Northern Light
05 Aug 2004, 10:33 AM
OK, here are my 2 ct:

# 1: I don't see any team that can stop Bayern this year, the others are simply far, far away!
# 2: CL and UEFA cup ranks go to Leverkusen, Bremen, Stuttgart and Schalke (no specific order).
# 3: Neither Dortmund nor Hamburg nor Wolfsburg will come close to UEFA cup ranks.
# 4: I don't have any clue what Hertha will do this year.
# 5: Bochum by far won't be able to play the same role as last year but also won't have to struggle against relegation.
# 6: All other teams I didn't mention will fight against relegation and nothing else!
# 7: No team (with the possible exception of Bayern) will perform well in CL or UEFA cup.
# 8: Oh yeah, and Hannover will win the Lower Saxony championship against the Radkappen at last (won't they, Wolfsburgh ;-))!

mschofield
05 Aug 2004, 10:55 AM
Was at the hertha game this past weekend. This is a much better team than the one I watched last year. Organized, creative, fast. they had talent last year, just played poorly. My prediction (and after saturday I may retract it) is that this year they'll challenge for europe and maybe a CL spot.

SirManchester
05 Aug 2004, 03:04 PM
Was at the hertha game this past weekend. This is a much better team than the one I watched last year. Organized, creative, fast. they had talent last year, just played poorly. My prediction (and after saturday I may retract it) is that this year they'll challenge for europe and maybe a CL spot.


As hard as that might be to believe just look at what Leverkusen did after a disastrous season. So it is possible.

aloisius
06 Aug 2004, 12:06 PM
1. Bayern
2. Dortmund
3. Hertha
4.Schalke
5.Wolfsburg
6. Hamburg
7. Stuttgart
8. Hannover
9. Werder
10.Leverkusen



Relegated: Rostock, Freiburg, Bielefeld

Promoted : Koln, Frankfurt, 1860