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Richie #11
29 Jul 2004, 06:36 AM
Has anyone ever tried the Creatine Serum for building up strength, especially upper body, for football?
Would be interested to know what you thought of it, did it work, any side effects etc!
Cheers!
smith07
29 Jul 2004, 10:56 AM
i wouldn't do it, once you start using that stuff , it is hard to get things under control
Case
29 Jul 2004, 03:19 PM
I agree, Case ain't down wid drugs, even if they called supplements.
Eat more, eat right, workout more. Make the most of ur body and wot it can do, if that ain't good enuff, then at least u tried.
Worse still is cheating and still failing
smith07
29 Jul 2004, 03:26 PM
i like how case dropped the third person... is creatine outlawed by FIFA; I am pretty sure the NCAA forbids it... You have to lift a lot of weight and put on a lot of muscle for this stuff to work, or it will only make you FAT!!!
dienasty
29 Jul 2004, 04:26 PM
it shrinks your man stuff
WishHoustonHAdATeam
29 Jul 2004, 04:32 PM
IT is illegal it does make you fat but if you work out...it works...there is a guy on my pointy ball team that was really skinny and he started using it and he is one of the biggest guys on the team now.
Case
29 Jul 2004, 10:29 PM
[QUOTE=WishHoustonHAdATeam] my pointy ball team QUOTE]
"Pointy Ball", genius!
jahmerican
30 Jul 2004, 01:00 AM
i think you should give it a try
i knew a couple of guys who used to be good but kinda on the scrawny side and they took creatine and worked out and got bigger and now theyre way better and never get knocked off the ball
Richie #11
30 Jul 2004, 10:44 AM
i think you should give it a try
i knew a couple of guys who used to be good but kinda on the scrawny side and they took creatine and worked out and got bigger and now theyre way better and never get knocked off the ball
See that's like me, I'm a good player when I've got the ball and my tackling aint 2 bad, but I get knocked off the ball a lot cos I'm quite lightweight! It is legal though, none of the ingrediants are on FIFA's banned list!
smith07
30 Jul 2004, 11:56 AM
but i don't think NCAA permits it because of dehydrations issues. You can gain enought weight not to get knocked off the ball naturally... don't need the risk of creatine
polakosaur
30 Jul 2004, 12:01 PM
the thing with creatine is that it puts you at more risks of muscle pulls. you should find out about thew side affects and stuff. over all its safe cause it is a naturally occiuring thing in you body, you just adding to it, but it does increase your risk of muscle pulls and i wouldn't want to be on the sideline for a few weeks cause of a hamstring or quad pull
all_conference
30 Jul 2004, 11:13 PM
I'm very quick and fancy with the ball, but there are times when I need that extra weight and muscle to sustain other people's weight. What's quickest way of doing this?
Gr33kziLLa
31 Jul 2004, 04:12 AM
I say Go natural! :)
jtowns3
02 Aug 2004, 12:11 AM
I'm very quick and fancy with the ball, but there are times when I need that extra weight and muscle to sustain other people's weight. What's quickest way of doing this?
shoot up with some good ol' Vitamin "S" you'll love the results and side effects. :p
crash2772
02 Aug 2004, 12:34 AM
but i don't think NCAA permits it because of dehydrations issues. You can gain enought weight not to get knocked off the ball naturally... don't need the risk of creatine
To be sure i'd look at the NCAA regulations on the stuff, but my best friend ran track (100m) at a D1 school and when he got injured the coach had him go on a plan which included creatine.
It will allow you to get bigger, but it is mostly water weight. It does however allow you to work out harder and more often. This in turn will help you get stronger, mostly in explosive motion type actions. The main concern is the dehydration issue, but this is easily over come by drinking lots of water. The other concern, as with any suppliment is the effect on your kidneys. It can damage them if you take too much of the substance.
There are plenty of resources online to help you make an informed decision.
Based on what I had read, as well as my friend/his coach, i have taken it off and on. I did it for similar reasons as you mentioned. I was always fast, but not the strongest of players (despite my relative height: 6'). It has helped me add strength, and some weight-- and actually help my acceleration as well. I take creatine (during active periods) in a 2 week on, 1 week off cycle. I don't ever "load", as that can eventually cause kidney damage. Creatine is a naturally produced compound in your body, so taking it continuously can cause your body to become relient on the outside source; hence the 1 week off.
Good luck with your choice. BTW, how old are you? I wouldnt take it unless i was at least 16 or 17 years old. I was 20 when i first took it (it did help me rep almost 85lbs more on the bench press within 3 months :))
Futballer
02 Aug 2004, 03:52 AM
Creatin is not a drug. And i'm sure they use it in NCAA.
Creatin will make you bigger but it's mostly all water.
I heard once you stop taking it you loose the weight. But not on everyone. Guess it depends on the person.
bostonsoccermdl
04 Aug 2004, 08:38 AM
Here is my experence with creatine both pro and con:
It WILL increase strength, but most of the added weight tends to be water weight gained by the ingrediant "taurine" (causes water rentention. also found in Red Bull)
The SERUM is pure garbage, it doesnt work or get "absorbed" into your blood stream. Even the guys at GNC tell me this. If they are going against their own product, you know it is sh!t....
I took this for 2 years. READ THIS ADVICE::: YOU MUST DRINK LARGE AMOUNTS OF WATER AND AVOID EXCESSIVE ALCOHOL AND COFFEE. otherwise you get dehydrated, get excruciating stomach cramps and end up in the emergency room like me TWICE! And by the time you realize your stomach is cramping, it is too late, your done...
the first time, I didnt make the connection, the 2nd I did. Both times came after long partying weekends.. Ending up in the ER with a IV in your arm isnt the best way spend your day..
bungadiri
04 Aug 2004, 09:03 AM
Have you actually tried just lifting weights, without chemical supplements? If you haven’t you might be surprised at the result you get.
After googling “creatine health hazards” I got a lot of sites trying to sell it, assuring me there were no serious health hazards associated with creatine, especially if I used their version. There were a few sites that summarized the known hazards as involving dehydration, cramping, and increased susceptibility to muscle injury (bostonsoccermdl’s advice seems right on here) and noting that the benefits (as is the case with any supplement) are temporary in that they’re limited to the time you’re on the supplement.
From a strictly health-oriented standpoint, what bothers me most about creatine is what they don’t know yet. It’s relatively new, and because it’s “naturally occurring” they haven’t had to run the usual FDA tests to discover potential long-term side effects. The guys trying to sell certainly have no motivation to do anything but the bare minimum in the way of testing; just enough to avoid liability. Thus someone taking it according to recommendations is putting large amounts of a chemical into their body for a long period of time without any real understanding of the potential cumulative effect. It just doesn’t seem worth the risk to me.
Here’s a summary of what most of the warnings I could find have to say about creatine.
http://eiconline.org/creative/spotlighton/steroids/2.html
While creatine may seem like a “miracle drug,” it is important to note the health hazards that it could potentially pose. Creatine’s side effects may include nausea and muscle cramps, according to Dr. William J. Kraemer, professor of applied physiology at Penn State. Long-term side effects are not known due to creatine’s relatively recent development, and studies are currently being conducted to determine the supplement’s safety. Because the recreational use of creatine is a relatively new phenomenon, and especially because recent findings from The French Agency of Medical Security for Food (AFSSA) link the chemical to cancer, most scientific experts recommend against the use of creatine for most people.