Klinsmann, Bierhoff, and Osieck.

[TheWorstKind]

Is this the trinity to lead us out of the dark ages? If the TFK pulls this one of, it will be an even bigger surprise than Voeller taken over four years ago.

I, for one, think it can work. Klinsi as the Chief, Bierhoff as the team manager, and Osieck as the assistent coach. Klinsmann even has the coaching license, so he could actually be the "Bundestrainer".

This must be a slap in the face of Mattheus, though. Quite alright by me, though. I prefer Klinsman tenfold over Mattheus.

[shutoutj]

I hope they do it. It would be better than Hiddink, just because I don't want a Dutchman running the Nationalelf. I just hope he's more willing to bring in the youth than Voeller was. :confused:

[Smiley321]

If Klinsmann and Bierhoff can still play, that would work

Or if they could do a Vulcanian mind meld with Klose and turn him into a one-man gang like Klinsmann used to be

[domingo]

I hope it will work. It looks like DFB is gonna go for it.
Let´s see. Klinsmann want to make some reforms. Good luck.

@ shutoutj
I wouldn´t mind a dutch manager. Why not?

[European16]

i hope they take them.

[Robert25]

I got to agree this would be a great fit for the team. Klinsmann and Bierhoff both have the experiance and of course the winning credentials. They are not too far removed from playing and would I hope get players like Ballack, Klose, Kuranyii, and the other players playing more like a team.

But I got to say whoeever the coach is, be it from the Netherlands, Denmark, or anywhere, germany needs to get the best person for the job. Because that job is to get this team playing well leading into the critical 2006 world cup in germany.

[mcweiss]

This is certainly thinking outside the box...What happened to the Kaiser's statement that the next manager will be a foreigner. Maybe Klinsmann will be considered a foreigner because he lives in "Hell A" - sunny California.

Real crisis would be trying to make Lotta have a position with Klinsmann on the Nationalelf together. The media coverage would be a gas. JUST KIDDING...

If this is true...all the best to Klinsmann and his staff. I hope that they bring youth players in the team. I'd rather see youth fail because of inexperience, rather than a washed up Klose, Worns, Bobic, Kahn, etc. failing like we expect.

[hertha supporter]

Let's just hope the DFB's unorthodox thinking can translate into results; we need a more unorthodox team to have a chance of winning, because the team that's out there right now is too predictable...

[JeffS]

This is a great, albiet risky, move. I like it - Juergen Klinsmann ranks with Karl Heinz Rummenigge has my two all time favorite German players.

Klinsmann has great popularity and charisma, knows the game very well, knows how to score (which he can teach some of his tricks to the likes of Kuranyi, Klose, Poldolski, and Lauth), has a coaching license, wants to shake things up in the DFB and National Mannschaft (thinking outside the box), and he seems willing and motivated to help Germany.

That last item is very important, because so many experienced managers out their don't want to take the risk or pressure of heading the National Mannschaft. To Klinsmann, it's no risk. After all is said in done, he can go back to his life in Southern California, as part time coach, part time Galaxy consultant, part time surfer, part time commentator, and full time Dad.

I also believe that Klinsmann will try to go with youth more than many other managers would. He's big on developing talent, by what he's said in the press. Klinsmann was also a spectacular forward with great creativity. I'm sure he'll instill some inventive, creative, positive attacking tactics, without sacrificing the traditional German football virtues of great organization and efficiency.

The only risk is that Klinsmann has zero top level coaching experience. But with bringing in an experienced trainer in Osieck, he'll have the day to day training covered very well. And then adding Bierhoff has a manager and DFB/media liason should take some of the pressure off Klinsmann.

All things considered, this is by far the best case scenario for Germany.

[TheWorstKind]

If Klinsmann and Bierhoff can still play, that would work

Or if they could do a Vulcanian mind meld with Klose and turn him into a one-man gang like Klinsmann used to be

Ah, the old Vulcan mind-meld...Well, I think first order of business ought to be to square away that big hole in the middle of our defense. Let's go back to our flat three with a libero. Please. It worked so well for the Greeks, too. It is how we became who we were!

Then Klinsi could do some one on one training with our forwards to show them how to put a ball into the net...

And my final wish is that Klinsi does away with that mental case Kahn. :eek: I wish he had gone to Japan. Would have been good ridance. Freaking ego-maniac.

[PileD]

Is this the trinity to lead us out of the dark ages? If the TFK pulls this one of, it will be an even bigger surprise than Voeller taken over four years ago.

I, for one, think it can work. Klinsi as the Chief, Bierhoff as the team manager, and Osieck as the assistent coach. Klinsmann even has the coaching license, so he could actually be the "Bundestrainer".

This must be a slap in the face of Mattheus, though. Quite alright by me, though. I prefer Klinsman tenfold over Mattheus.

The perfect trio.

Really perfect.

[shutoutj]

@domingo
I don't want a Dutch coach because we really need to solve the problem by ourselves. Hiddink knows what he's doing, but do we really need all the Dutch egos to shoot up if Hiddink fixes the Mannschaft?

[adega1980]

osiek is an idiot

[Smiley321]

Ah, the old Vulcan mind-meld...Well, I think first order of business ought to be to square away that big hole in the middle of our defense. Let's go back to our flat three with a libero. Please. It worked so well for the Greeks, too. It is how we became who we were!


Yeah, as you've said before, even the defense is porous nowadays.

A guy who can get them to play well on defense would go a long ways. But who's the libero?

[mcweiss]

Ah, the old Vulcan mind-meld...Well, I think first order of business ought to be to square away that big hole in the middle of our defense. Let's go back to our flat three with a libero. Please. It worked so well for the Greeks, too. It is how we became who we were!

Then Klinsi could do some one on one training with our forwards to show them how to put a ball into the net...

And my final wish is that Klinsi does away with that mental case Kahn. :eek: I wish he had gone to Japan. Would have been good ridance. Freaking ego-maniac.
Perfect point. The past "recent" winners (i.e. WM 1990 & EM 1996) had the role filled in some sort of way by Lothar and M. Sammer. This is a position that has not been filled since Sammer was not able to come back from injury. They keep on trying to switch the style to match other nations, by using the philosophy of a "playmaker". Lothar / Sammer were playmakers (maybe) but the build up to play was always done from the back with the Nationalelf. The difference was the killer player going forward (Lothar / Sammer) and lethal forwards finishing. Remember back to '74, the team also had that role filled. Many people talk about the lack of forward play and a weak defense hurting the national team, but I think it is deeper than that. The Nationalelf setup no longer plays like a machine working together, they play like a bunch of individuals (which is why teams like the Dutch don't have many trophies). Many people said the Greeks did not deserve to win the EM 2004, however I saw a team that worked like an efficient unit supporting eachother in all aspects of the game (Attack and Defense), with a little bit of luck. Perhaps I see football in a different way than most, but it is probably my teachers that have helped me develop this philosophy.

I know that this forum is regarding the new staff. My final point is that Klinsmann is another player that lived through this past style of German football, and I hope that he recognizes that it is effective; they are not playing that way now; and the new youth members can still be molded to form this attitude. As I have stated before the older players on the Nationalelf have never lived up to success (I am not counting WM 2002), and only played like a team during WM2002 (which combined with a lucky draw of teams got them through to the final). My hope is that Klinsmann can help inject new blood (U-21's) into the senior setup and get back to playing winning, or at least dangerous football. Hopefully they can make a showing at WM 2006 and be a serious competitor for EM 2008...

[SirManchester]

I could not be any happier with this decision. I've been a huge fan of Klinsman for the longest time and I totally respect his way of thinking and his approach to the game. It's been said before, sometimes you gotta take a risk to see results. You can't go for safety all the time. Even though Klinsi isn't a foreigner, he still brings in this breath of fresh air.

He will focus more on Germany's youth talent and try to shape and prepare a younger national team for the World Cup. His experience as a top level coach might be lacking but his experience as a world class striker makes up for that and he'll pass that on. If Germany can get that kind of energy and exuberence going with the current youth talent, only positive things can come out of that.

[JeffS]

I could not be any happier with this decision. I've been a huge fan of Klinsman for the longest time and I totally respect his way of thinking and his approach to the game. It's been said before, sometimes you gotta take a risk to see results. You can't go for safety all the time. Even though Klinsi isn't a foreigner, he still brings in this breath of fresh air.

He will focus more on Germany's youth talent and try to shape and prepare a younger national team for the World Cup. His experience as a top level coach might be lacking but his experience as a world class striker makes up for that and he'll pass that on. If Germany can get that kind of energy and exuberence going with the current youth talent, only positive things can come out of that.

You bring up a couple more positives about Klinsmann - passion and fresh perspective. Klinsmann as a player always displayed great passion. Klinsmann as a retired player living in So. Cal has had distance from the DFB and is seeing it's problems from an unbiased viewpoint. His interviews and commentary over the last few years have indicated his "out of the box" perspective in how to get Germany going again.

We'll see how that translates on the field soon enough. :)

[PileD]

That's the world trophy.

On, and on, and on.

[hertha supporter]

Good thing the trio don't have to worry about the WC qualifications; you can just imagine what would've happened if they lost their first WC qualification game.

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I am a little divided on this.

Klinsmann is a legend but ultimately he has no coaching experience, and what are these reforms we keep hearing about? I want to know.

... and Osieck doesn't have the best of reputations as a manager even if his role is assistant.


This gamble could be bad or good.