(CL: Matchday 4) FC Bayern München vs Girondins Bordeaux [R]

[Kyles9]

I'm sure I've supported Bayern a lot longer than you have. ******** off prick

I never said otherwise.

But if you're fed up with the way Uli & Co. do things than I don't see the point in complaining. They are the most stubborn people left in the business.

[ForeverRed]

Reactions:

LvG:
"In games like these we must score. We didn't have any luck. We should have gotten a penalty. Its small things that decide a game. We weren't lucky, but also simply not good enough. We still aren't capable of outplaying the French champions. This was not our best game. But we are not out yet, we still have a small chance."

MvB:
"We risked everything in the second half, nobody can criticize us for that. But for the first half they can criticize us. But not for the second half. We had lots of good chances and should have scored. Toni was a little unlucky, there should have been a penalty after Klose's shot. I should have done better at the first goal, I take responsibilty for that. There are still two more games, and if we win both, we will have 10 points. It will be difficult nonetheless."

http://www.sport1.de/de/fussball/fussball_championsleague/artikel_170462.html

Not really satisfied with those responses to be honest.

I knew they would bring up luck and the penalty.

[KFofB]

Klinsmann had the better squad by a long shot because he had Ribery available. None of the new signings, save Robben, add up in total to Ribery. And we knew what we were getting with Robben...injuries. This is a difficulty in comparing Klinsmann to LvG.

Klinsmann's team regressed and he had lost the dressing room. There is no indication that he would be outcoaching LvG under these conditions. About the only thing that may be said is that he got more out of Klose.

Many here were quite happy with the transfer policy, specifically Tymoschmuck and Gomez. Neither have paid dividends. Here maybe we see the limitations on the impact of transfer policy viz-a-viz coaching/player leadership. (just ask Real Madrid).

I have yet to see today's match, but thus far LvG doesn't look to have any answers. Bayern remain pedestrian in attack and incredibly boring. It is hard to see how a healthy Ribery would affect the picture. The best feature of his tenure so far is the discovery of Mueller/Badstuber.
Agree that he is unlikely to be fired. Who would want the job at this point?

I suppose I'll have to support Arsenal in Europe now. Chances of going through are very slim.

[FCBerken]

Not really satisfied with those responses to be honest.

I knew they would bring up luck and the penalty.

I agree. Although I'm not sure a public bashing of the players from the coach and captain would help a lot. I'm sure they all got an earful from Kalle, Uli, and Louis already.

[Mr. J]

Reactions:

LvG:
"In games like these we must score. We didn't have any ability. We should have gotten a penalty. Its small things that decide a game. We weren't lucky, but also simply not good enough. We still aren't capable of outplaying the French champions. This was our worst game since I've been in charge. But we are not out yet, we still have an infinitesimally small chance."

MvB:
"Robben did everything in the second half, nobody can criticize Robben for that. But for the first half they can criticize us. But not Robben for the second half. No one but Robben had good chances and so could not have scored. Toni was a little unlucky, there should have been a penalty after Klose's shot. I should have done my job at the first goal, I take responsibilty for that. There are still two more games, and if we win both, we will have 10 points. It will be difficult nonetheless."


That's more like it.

[KFofB]

I'm sure they all got an earful from Kalle, Uli, and Louis already.

..... pointless at this stage. Have to go back and re-visit the basic questions, a time for sober reflection.

[Bayern4Life]

I can't believe some here thought Misimovic was not good enough for Bayern. He is exactly the type of player we need at this time.

[berloha]

Surprised that no one has opened a Gaal-death watch thread. I mean Rummenigge, the murderer of all coaches, did not give any interviews. Schalke match will be it.

[Klask]

Surprised that no one has opened a Gaal-death watch thread. I mean Rummenigge, the murderer of all coaches, did not give any interviews. Schalke match will be it.

Killer Kalle has even been insulting and shooting against Hitzfeld. He must be a ticking time bomb ready to explode any second if we screw up against S04.

[Duncan Idaho]

Surprised that no one has opened a Gaal-death watch thread. I mean Rummenigge, the murderer of all coaches, did not give any interviews. Schalke match will be it.


I said that right after the game

[schwas]

Klinsmann had the better squad by a long shot because he had Ribery available.

No he didnt. Ribery was injured for the most part of the first 7-10 weeks, and dont forget we didnt have Müller. Granted we had Ze who was in a great touch in the first half of the season, but today in the second half we had Robben, and still looked like sh!t

No excuses there.



None of the new signings, save Robben, add up in total to Ribery. And we knew what we were getting with Robben...injuries. This is a difficulty in comparing Klinsmann to LvG.

We can find small things here and there, however you have to compare the results. Klinsmann did a better job than LVG (so far).



Many here were quite happy with the transfer policy, specifically Tymoschmuck and Gomez. Neither have paid dividends.

Because he has failed to utilize them (especially Tymo), the guy has been a DM all his life, but not in LVG's team. FFS he plays him as a RM just so he can put fu##ing MVB as a DM.

Besides not like his signings are sparkling on the field. Pranjic and Braffheid are both rubbish, and I dont see any other respected club buying players like that tbh.

[makkay]

this ********ing sucks . Is my life gonna be like this forever? watching crap and almost having heart attacks screaming at worthless bitches like MvB, Scheini, gomez, Badstuber, Pranjic, Butt and co. this sucks. why the ******** wouldn't bayern just end their relationship with me? why don't they just dump me? It's not like I can do it myself. this feels worse than being ********ed running. this suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks

[ForeverRed]

I agree. Although I'm not sure a public bashing of the players from the coach and captain would help a lot. I'm sure they all got an earful from Kalle, Uli, and Louis already.

I'm not calling for a public lashing but some apologetic responses can go some way in at least saving some face in front of the many supporters that have been let down by the organization this season.

I'm sure the players (not LvG) are bearing the brunt of management's frustration behind the scenes but this is a football club that lives because of its supporters first.

[Equilibrium]

http://goal.com/en/poll/n2147481426/louis-van-gaals-bayern-munich-are-they-in-crisis/results

lol

[Mr. J]

Haha. But how many votes have been cast?

[hackespitze123]

Bayern need changes at the top, everyone (including Hoeneß) knows that. But I'm not sure if a guy like Nerlinger really is the solution. He seems to be too much of an "yes man" to me, a sheep amongst (alpha) wolves.

The next couple of years are going to be crucial for the club. Hoeneß 'retiring' (if he ever really retires that is) from the management job will be a break, a real challenge for the club.

[Dr.Phil]

Yikes dint see the second but im guessing it wasnt any better

[albert_mk87]

Can somebody shows Van Gaals videos of Lahm games from last year when he played LB i mean common the guy is below average on the RB position he cannot cross he cannot dribble on the left when he tries on the right everytime he is covered and why isn't some pointing finger as long as "we played good" is said we will continue to play like this i mean everywhere when you don't play good you sit on the bench and you work hard but here i don't know what to say as long we play Van BOmmel ,Tymo and Schweini on the team we will finish half of our games with 0 goals scored.How can Tymo be a RM ???? I haven't seen something more stupid.How can Scheini be number 10 ???? as a matter of fact how can SChweini and Van Bommel play every game when they suck?? And i don't know how somebody defends Klose but the guy shouldn't be on the team.And Butt yes maybe he has some moments but i knew that he will screw us in importants moments.I don't even want to start about his balls half of them goes to the oposite players.So in the winter we need one GK switching lahm to the left buying a RB,i don't want to see an hear anymore about Van Bommel and Schweini so in the midfield maybe giving a chance to Tymo in his natural position and buying one creative midfielder who can feel scweini position when we play 4-3-3 and Muller as the third guy , play robbery on the flanks and give Gomez more chance i mean when you are a striker and your support is van bommel tymo and schweini what do you expect the guy can finish when they create but the problem is there isn't anyone to create and sell Toni and Klose and buy another striker who can at least hold the ball and run with her. START POINTING FINGERS AND CHANGE SOMETHING

[humin12]

One word: f*ck.

This club needs to explode from its seams, if those ********s at the top really love Bayern they need to shoot themselves and half the players in our squad. This team is so much like the Detroit Lions, it needs an overhaul, if only we could get rid of half the personnel. I'm afraid. I'm afraid that this monopoly money will run out when we want our annual quick fixes in the summer.

This club is pure frustration in every way. FC Hollywood? I wish, we should be called FC Frustration.

[Equilibrium]

This whole lets drop the entire management and hire someone new is a sweet theory but no end purpose. Whose the genious that will replace them and what guarantees he won't completely flop?

Nerlinger gives me the impression of someone with no real idea of his own and adds nothing new to the management that can improve them. Maybe I'm wrong which is very likely, but that is the impression I get.