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RacaVocals
05 Jul 2004, 03:03 PM
I think this thread is necessary, they played their style and won it, bah to all of you with your bla bla bla anti football crap. Greece played their game and won it with clarity and tactical GOLD.

I don't like defensive soccer because it keeps the final scores low, but it doesn't take away from greece their first EURO trophy, and it is up to "attack" football nations to beat that tactic, not beat the team that defended well over the head with " well you guys ruin football... bla..." shut up with that crap because that's what it is. If you can't beat the tactic it's because your not learning from the losses to that same tactic. it's not like eleven players can make a 20 foot wall across the front of the goal, if you cant score your set plays thats your fault, over defensiveness cause fouls in front of goal and around the area, so thats where that tactic gets beat, good set plays. if maniche scored two like the one against the Dutch it would have been a different score, but bad crosses and field goal style free kicks lost this game.

They won, they beat my country's team, who BTW should have learned something from that first game, because greece's tactics were exactly the same in the final as in the opener. So no sour grapes from me.

Portugal failed where it always does... putting it in the net, if the other teams let us get those 10-20 shots on goal it usually takes us to get one in the net, we should know that greece would not give us maybe even 5 clear ones, so we lost, plain and simple.

When I lived in portugal for 5 years during High School I heard something said over and over by sad Benfica fans,

and this is the most true rule in soccer.

" Quem nao marca perde " = If you don't score you lose.

yeah yeah sometimes you tie... but thats in league play, in a final there can be only one winner. not two teams that tie.

We didnt score and we lost.

CONGRATULATIONS GREECE!!!

and on a lighter note congratulations to portugal for going further than ever before in a MNT tournament. I'm proud to be portuguese.

RacaVocals
05 Jul 2004, 03:08 PM
Oh and I almost forgot, to my greek friends and all greek around the world let's party!!! we both made it to the final through hard work and a love for football!! you won, oh well ( my little sour grapes... :P ) but greece and portugal in the final who would of thought huh? Great job by your team guys.

SwissGCZ
05 Jul 2004, 03:14 PM
What he said...

Congratulations to Greece!

Theo the Greek
05 Jul 2004, 03:23 PM
Excellent Post

I think this thread is necessary, they played their style and won it, bah to all of you with your bla bla bla anti football crap. Greece played their game and won it with clarity and tactical GOLD.

I don't like defensive soccer because it keeps the final scores low, but it doesn't take away from greece their first EURO trophy, and it is up to "attack" football nations to beat that tactic, not beat the team that defended well over the head with " well you guys ruin football... bla..." shut up with that crap because that's what it is. If you can't beat the tactic it's because your not learning from the losses to that same tactic. it's not like eleven players can make a 20 foot wall across the front of the goal, if you cant score your set plays thats your fault, over defensiveness cause fouls in front of goal and around the area, so thats where that tactic gets beat, good set plays. if maniche scored two like the one against the Dutch it would have been a different score, but bad crosses and field goal style free kicks lost this game.

They won, they beat my country's team, who BTW should have learned something from that first game, because greece's tactics were exactly the same in the final as in the opener. So no sour grapes from me.

Portugal failed where it always does... putting it in the net, if the other teams let us get those 10-20 shots on goal it usually takes us to get one in the net, we should know that greece would not give us maybe even 5 clear ones, so we lost, plain and simple.

When I lived in portugal for 5 years during High School I heard something said over and over by sad Benfica fans,

and this is the most true rule in soccer.

" Quem nao marca perde " = If you don't score you lose.

yeah yeah sometimes you tie... but thats in league play, in a final there can be only one winner. not two teams that tie.

We didnt score and we lost.

CONGRATULATIONS GREECE!!!

and on a lighter note congratulations to portugal for going further than ever before in a MNT tournament. I'm proud to be portuguese.

warzycha13
05 Jul 2004, 04:18 PM
I think this thread is necessary, they played their style and won it, bah to all of you with your bla bla bla anti football crap. Greece played their game and won it with clarity and tactical GOLD.

I don't like defensive soccer because it keeps the final scores low, but it doesn't take away from greece their first EURO trophy, and it is up to "attack" football nations to beat that tactic, not beat the team that defended well over the head with " well you guys ruin football... bla..." shut up with that crap because that's what it is. If you can't beat the tactic it's because your not learning from the losses to that same tactic. it's not like eleven players can make a 20 foot wall across the front of the goal, if you cant score your set plays thats your fault, over defensiveness cause fouls in front of goal and around the area, so thats where that tactic gets beat, good set plays. if maniche scored two like the one against the Dutch it would have been a different score, but bad crosses and field goal style free kicks lost this game.

They won, they beat my country's team, who BTW should have learned something from that first game, because greece's tactics were exactly the same in the final as in the opener. So no sour grapes from me.

Portugal failed where it always does... putting it in the net, if the other teams let us get those 10-20 shots on goal it usually takes us to get one in the net, we should know that greece would not give us maybe even 5 clear ones, so we lost, plain and simple.

When I lived in portugal for 5 years during High School I heard something said over and over by sad Benfica fans,

and this is the most true rule in soccer.

" Quem nao marca perde " = If you don't score you lose.

yeah yeah sometimes you tie... but thats in league play, in a final there can be only one winner. not two teams that tie.

We didnt score and we lost.

CONGRATULATIONS GREECE!!!

and on a lighter note congratulations to portugal for going further than ever before in a MNT tournament. I'm proud to be portuguese.

Thanks mate! Congrats to you too! Lets party! :cool:

OriginalAEK
05 Jul 2004, 04:54 PM
I think this thread is necessary, they played their style and won it, bah to all of you with your bla bla bla anti football crap. Greece played their game and won it with clarity and tactical GOLD.

I don't like defensive soccer because it keeps the final scores low, but it doesn't take away from greece their first EURO trophy, and it is up to "attack" football nations to beat that tactic, not beat the team that defended well over the head with " well you guys ruin football... bla..." shut up with that crap because that's what it is. If you can't beat the tactic it's because your not learning from the losses to that same tactic. it's not like eleven players can make a 20 foot wall across the front of the goal, if you cant score your set plays thats your fault, over defensiveness cause fouls in front of goal and around the area, so thats where that tactic gets beat, good set plays. if maniche scored two like the one against the Dutch it would have been a different score, but bad crosses and field goal style free kicks lost this game.

They won, they beat my country's team, who BTW should have learned something from that first game, because greece's tactics were exactly the same in the final as in the opener. So no sour grapes from me.

Portugal failed where it always does... putting it in the net, if the other teams let us get those 10-20 shots on goal it usually takes us to get one in the net, we should know that greece would not give us maybe even 5 clear ones, so we lost, plain and simple.

When I lived in portugal for 5 years during High School I heard something said over and over by sad Benfica fans,

and this is the most true rule in soccer.

" Quem nao marca perde " = If you don't score you lose.

yeah yeah sometimes you tie... but thats in league play, in a final there can be only one winner. not two teams that tie.

We didnt score and we lost.

CONGRATULATIONS GREECE!!!

and on a lighter note congratulations to portugal for going further than ever before in a MNT tournament. I'm proud to be portuguese.

Cheers mate...thank you.

Attorney33
05 Jul 2004, 06:48 PM
I finaly want to say that here. (I felt that after I read a lot of strange opinions in different forums on this site). CONGRATULATION GREECE. You have a great team and that is why you are champions.
You are the champions no matter what some fans say. So see you in Prague on August. (I know that it will be just friendly match, but anyway) ;)

Theo the Greek
05 Jul 2004, 08:46 PM
sounds great!I finaly want to say that here. (I felt that after I read a lot of strange opinions in different forums on this site). CONGRATULATION GREECE. You have a great team and that is why you are champions.
You are the champions no matter what some fans say. So see you in Prague on August. (I know that it will be just friendly match, but anyway) ;)

USsupport
05 Jul 2004, 09:56 PM
just wanted to add my $0.02. Great result and a well played game by the Greeks.
Enjoy the party and for the next four years (at least) you guys are the Champions of Europe.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!

chisko1
05 Jul 2004, 10:54 PM
Congratulations Greece. Your team was by far the most efficient in the tournment and also the most intelligent from a strategic stand point. Well done.

chopsuey
05 Jul 2004, 11:28 PM
Also want to say congrats to Greece. Did that already too many times here in Lisbon where after the final many portuguese and greeks went to the streets to enjoy ourselves but of course the greeks were happier than us!

Who cares about the way they play! They play pragmatic football, they don't have galacticos in their team but they won against galacticos. If I had no galacticos on my team would I play offensive?

PARABENS GRECIA! We'll meet again.

Anivasgr
06 Jul 2004, 04:29 AM
I want to thank all the guys who congratulate my country. Thank you very much guys but I want to thank also those who said and write everywhere all these things about Greece playing awfull football, or that Greece killed the football and so on. Thanks a lot guys also. Your envy, your frustration, your racist words make me realize more and more how huge is what we have achieved. Thank you all very much. :) :)

tiej
07 Jul 2004, 09:07 PM
Congrats to the new Greek Gods! The Champions of all of Europe!!! :)

yianni
07 Jul 2004, 09:33 PM
finaly we won it's been a long time since we even won a game just something to say. . . .

Just a question for you people that critize Greece....

I was listening to some radio show today ..

and It was wondering what happened to players like Figo, Zidane, Rolando, and whomeever else gets paid MILLIONS of dollars for there talent.

and They wondered why.. they coudln't pass through the greek defence..

why is it??

Also i have seen the last couple of games twice, everyone says the greek players are always in the box,, I think you guys need some prescription glasses and open your eyes a bit more, and YOULL see the greeks playing everywhere on the field LIKE FOOTBALL is supposed to be.

so why are you guys wasting your time critizing greece when they had both offence and defence.

Can't win just a game on Defence.. you need to the offence to win a game as well and greece showed they had both....

Luck = maybe 1 game

After two three games LUCK isn't a factor
it's called skill
it's called playing together

it's called freeking football no matter how u look at it
defence or offence YOU NEED BOTH

so people wake up

and go critize something else!

Eurekas
08 Jul 2004, 08:30 AM
I will congratuale Greece for winning the Euro 2004, even if they play in a boring but efficient way. To win the tournament, we need to win all the games but sometime also have to win it by penalties. Everyone remembers the winners for a long time and not the 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc even when these teams play attactive football. Some people do remember that Portuguese and Czechs play attractive football, but these teams won't be remember after 10 years. There are many fans that like Zidane, Henry, Beckham, Totti and watch football because of these stars. But a true fan will alsp see the philosophical nature of the game. These guys are popular and attractive to watch, but they do have their off days too. Some of them are too gung-ho to score. Greece won because they got their tactics right and prevent star oppoents from blasting their goal. The team is full of enthusism and grit. Big match mentality is also essential. Italy and England never won a tournament for a very long time even their players are very good because they choke at the knockout games, their players cannot handle the pressure. No one expect much from Greece but they handle the pressure well. Greece won the trophy for all the small nations. Its a lesson to all of us that even we have not many people we can still succeed with good organistion and management.

yianni
08 Jul 2004, 11:30 PM
hey you ar write, but it's not also choking when greece played france greece shut sidane out for good, when greece play portugal our capting ( for greece) shut down figo very well on the second game the first game figo got to many shot's and greece put that to a stop, it's not just them chokiing maybe they do but greece shut them down very well, figo, raul, and zidane, you can say to much pressure but not all the time you would no if it was pressure or not but this year when greece beat france, portugal it wasn't because of pressure that's for sure, greece was ready, we have just a good chance in the world cup, we now we can beat spain, portugal, france, and more teams but im not being cocky just to the people who say greece sucks, well if they suck i guess portugal sucks more, france cause greece beat them.

lastdon
08 Jul 2004, 11:39 PM
greece did awesome! well deserved
underdogs in the whole tournament

the whole team stepped up

did you see NIKOPOLIDIS make some awesome saves?

they all played like a team


COngraaaaaats!

yianni
08 Jul 2004, 11:49 PM
hey you ar write, but it's not also choking when greece played france greece shut sidane out for good, when greece play portugal our capting ( for greece) shut down figo very well on the second game the first game figo got to many shot's and greece put that to a stop, it's not just them choking maybe they do but greece shut them down very well, figo, raul, and zidane, you can say to much pressure but not all the time you would no if it was pressure or not but this year when greece beat france, portugal it wasn't because of pressure that's for sure, greece was ready, we have just a good chance in the world cup, we now we can beat spain, portugal, france, and more teams but im not being cocky about greece gonna and already is doing well just to the people who say greece sucks, well if they suck i guess portugal sucks more, france cause greece beat them all and i thought those teams were great teams