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keev19
01 Jul 2004, 03:16 PM
I understand that neither side could agree to this match for so many different reasons, but how awesome would it be. Think about it, they play in some neutral site, a few thousand fans each, separated by a few hundred thousand cops. Each player would be trying so hard not to lose, it would be so tense.
Seriously, who wouldn't want to watch this match ? People who don't know the rules of soccer would be tuning in. They could broadcast the match on CNN (half-joking.)
In fact, they could make a whole series of matches between nations who despise each other.

The World Peace Champions Tour :
Ireland vs. Northern Ireland
India vs. Pakistan
3/4 of the Planet vs. The U.S. ( kidding)

Dave Brull
01 Jul 2004, 03:20 PM
An idealist...

Why not except finding Palestinians willing to play Israel. Can you play a team you don't recognze, discounting goals because the other team doesn't exist?

A youth team consisting of Palestinian and Israeli youth participated at the Dallas Cup back in April. They sucked, but it was a a step in the right direction.

keev19
01 Jul 2004, 03:27 PM
An idealist...

Why not except finding Palestinians willing to play Israel. Can you play a team you don't recognze, discounting goals because the other team doesn't exist?

A youth team consisting of Palestinian and Israeli youth participated at the Dallas Cup back in April. They sucked, but it was a a step in the right direction.

I'm assuming you meant accept not except.
The truth is getting the players on the Palestinian team to play wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem as the pressure that would be put on them by all the Arab "governments" ( sorry I had to.)
The players on the Palestine national team mainly come from South American countries (mostly Uruguay) and are acquitting themselves quite respectably in spite of having no home field advantage.

Dave Brull
01 Jul 2004, 03:37 PM
I'm assuming you meant accept not except.
The truth is getting the players on the Palestinian team to play wouldn't be nearly as much of a problem as the pressure that would be put on them by all the Arab "governments" ( sorry I had to.)
The players on the Palestine national team mainly come from South American countries (mostly Uruguay) and are acquitting themselves quite respectably in spite of having no home field advantage.

Yes, accept. My spelling fails me late in the day. My point was what you said, that the Israeli - Palestinian match may not go over well in some of the enighboring nations as Israel is the enemy to most of the nations either tacitly or fully expressed.

Would be nice though. Have to imagine Israel would win.

keev19
01 Jul 2004, 03:43 PM
Yes, accept. My spelling fails me late in the day. My point was what you said, that the Israeli - Palestinian match may not go over well in some of the enighboring nations as Israel is the enemy to most of the nations either tacitly or fully expressed.

Would be nice though. Have to imagine Israel would win.

They would certainly be favorites, but they are a team that plays up or down to the competition. in euro 2004 Qualifiying, they played a tough match against France in Italy ( you read that right) and lost 2-1. but they're the same team that struggled twice against noted European powers Malta and actually drew with them once.

Aharon6
01 Jul 2004, 07:08 PM
I like very much Israel, and I really would like to play in Israel.
There is one person that can give me one information?
I wait for one answer
With respect




They would certainly be favorites, but they are a team that plays up or down to the competition. in euro 2004 Qualifiying, they played a tough match against France in Italy ( you read that right) and lost 2-1. but they're the same team that struggled twice against noted European powers Malta and actually drew with them once.

keev19
01 Jul 2004, 08:07 PM
I like very much Israel, and I really would like to play in Israel.
There is one person that can give me one information?
I wait for one answer
With respect

Aharon, where have you played professionally ?
How old are you ?

Dave Brull
02 Jul 2004, 10:08 AM
According to his profile he is 26. I imagine an agent does this type of work. In lieu of an agent, I am guess Kappa or KYHS knows where to start, tryouts, etc. As in the US, I am guessing there are lower leagues that would be easier for Aharon to make the team.

Good luck, man. Live the dream for all us hacks!

Aharon6
02 Jul 2004, 11:38 AM
If You want I can send You my soccer cv, if You give me one e-mail address.
I played in semi pro, and some experiences in pro. I am 25 years old this year.
but I am becoming good in these lasts two years, after university, when I made masters post degree.
there are two Fifa agents that contacted me, for other solution, like Portugal, Switzerland, Egypt, Qatar, Austria, Italy B, but sincerely I would like to see something more.
I saw south america soccer (football), Russian, Asia, Australia, (I refused bad proposals from many places like Brazil or Ireland, or Norway, because the condition was bad) and in some places of Europe, but my dream was always to play in Israel.
I tryed to have contact, but three years I did not found.
About USA, there are 5 Clubs of A League that invited me for tests, but I was in Australia. I remember name like Charleston Battery, and others. three of MLS ask me to send informations and documents, like San Josè Earthquates, Vancouver whitecaps, and others. Years ago 5 of Indoor league required details, like San Diego, Cleveland Force, and others.
About Israel any persons of soccer that I asked know anything.
I lose time, I did not accept many things, trying to have contact in Israel, trying to call, spending money for nothing.
Any give me one possibility.
One person Raphale Barki, told me one number of Hapoel Kfar Saba, but was of one person that probably speak only Hebrew language and I was not able to have conversation.
Man of Federation, fifa agents that I asked from Italy, Germany, and Austria, did not have contact with Israel Clubs. So is really difficult.
I asked organizations, autorithy, Rabbi, Embassy, Consulate, but these do not work about soccer.
Other contact that I obtein in Europe was Ido Barziloy, leader of Hapoel fans, but was not possible to comunicate.
All the e-mail address of clubs that I found are simple fans.
the other was not correct and the message returned.
I wrote to Mr Kappa18 as You and Your correspondent wrote, and he told me to wait for KYHS, but he did not present from the 13 of June.
I found this site in 6 of June I wrote to him on 10 and he told me to send a private message, but the site did not accept, because I was new.
So I asked for a e-mail address, but he did not return in the site.
I am thinking to abandone I three years, first to finished the University and the masters Post degree that I am trying one contact in Israel, but I understand that is impossible. Probably I do not merit this possibility.
I will wait one other week, and then I will finished to ask, to telephone, to write, if is impossible to have one possibility in Israel.
I USA I am sure that is possible have one contact, because there is not the problem of the Hebrew language. In Europe is really difficult find a insititute for study Hebrew language. In USA, probably is more simple.
All the best for You, for Israel and for USA,
and excuse me for my long message.

Aharon, where have you played professionally ?
How old are you ?

Kappa18
02 Jul 2004, 04:03 PM
Im not sure if a Israel vs. Palestine match would go nicely.

In the 90's, Lazio (i think) hosted a peace game, which had Israeli players and Palestinain players. Baggio was on the Israeli team and a couple of players were on the Palestinain team...

To have a friendly match between Israel and Palestine is a long way ahead of us. we should first have a game between Jordan or Egypt, but cold peace has its price.

Either way, i don't think this is a really sporty topic. More political, and i think its good for ther political forum....

I wish i can edit this, but im not Mod and KYHS is nowhere to be seen.... as usuall ;)

Aharon6
02 Jul 2004, 04:29 PM
Is the true, is difficult make anything with palestinian persons, we have to think what they make in the street at one of the same people, just because in their opinion he helped with information Israel army.
The sport is one other things, and somethime is difficult obtein with sport political fine end.
About Israel First League this year there are 2 palestinian clubs?
Where play the midfield Cohen?
And the defender Levi?
And Haim Revivo?
I wait for Your answer.
With respect



Im not sure if a Israel vs. Palestine match would go nicely.

In the 90's, Lazio (i think) hosted a peace game, which had Israeli players and Palestinain players. Baggio was on the Israeli team and a couple of players were on the Palestinain team...

To have a friendly match between Israel and Palestine is a long way ahead of us. we should first have a game between Jordan or Egypt, but cold peace has its price.

Either way, i don't think this is a really sporty topic. More political, and i think its good for ther political forum....

I wish i can edit this, but im not Mod and KYHS is nowhere to be seen.... as usuall ;)

keev19
02 Jul 2004, 05:26 PM
Is the true, is difficult make anything with palestinian persons, we have to think what they make in the street at one of the same people, just because in their opinion he helped with information Israel army.
The sport is one other things, and somethime is difficult obtein with sport political fine end.
About Israel First League this year there are 2 palestinian clubs?
Where play the midfield Cohen?
And the defender Levi?
And Haim Revivo?
I wait for Your answer.
With respect

They arent Palestinian clubs, rather Arab Israeli teams and I believe this was the first year to have one, let alone two.

Don't write back until after Shabbat, please.

iwishiweremingus2
04 Jul 2004, 12:14 PM
Quote:
"The players on the Palestine national team mainly come from South American countries (mostly Uruguay) and are acquitting themselves quite respectably in spite of having no home field advantage."

I actually think that most of the players are from Argentina. And yes they are considered for World Cup qualification after beating Taiwan and tying Iraq in Asia Group 2 I believe. I think the last time that I checked, they were ranked at 150 in the world rankings.

Kappa18
04 Jul 2004, 04:33 PM
I actually think that most of the players are from Argentina. And yes they are considered for World Cup qualification after beating Taiwan and tying Iraq in Asia Group 2 I believe. I think the last time that I checked, they were ranked at 150 in the world rankings.


Actually,

They are mostly from Chile. Some are from Argentina, and some are from Brazil and Uraguay. I heard there is a big Palestinain Community in Chile. There is even a team that is called Palestinos F.C in the Premier Leauge there.

I am not sure about them making it to WC 2006..they do have a good chance, though. They lost to Uzebkistan 3-0, which is a set back!

Aharon6
04 Jul 2004, 08:50 PM
About Your question if You give me with private message one e-mail address, I can send You many informations.
I wait for Your answer.
With respect

They arent Palestinian clubs, rather Arab Israeli teams and I believe this was the first year to have one, let alone two.

Don't write back until after Shabbat, please.

Aharon6
04 Jul 2004, 08:52 PM
Yes there is a team that the name is Palestine in Chile. but there are palestinian community in Uruguay and Argentina too.
Who is the group for World Cup of Palestinian:
Taiwan
Iraq
Uzbekistan and?
there is the riskthat they come to World cup?
I wait for Your answer



Actually,

They are mostly from Chile. Some are from Argentina, and some are from Brazil and Uraguay. I heard there is a big Palestinain Community in Chile. There is even a team that is called Palestinos F.C in the Premier Leauge there.

I am not sure about them making it to WC 2006..they do have a good chance, though. They lost to Uzebkistan 3-0, which is a set back!

Kappa18
05 Jul 2004, 12:37 AM
Yes there is a team that the name is Palestine in Chile. but there are palestinian community in Uruguay and Argentina too.
Who is the group for World Cup of Palestinian:
Taiwan
Iraq
Uzbekistan and?
there is the riskthat they come to World cup?
I wait for Your answer


Yes there is Palestinian communities South America. Including Brazil, Ecuador, Peru and alot in Venerzuela. I think Chile is a big community. Someone mentioned that they have over 300,000 decendents.

In the group is:
Palestine*
Iraq
Taiwan
Uzbekistan...

Only 4 teams in General.
As for the Palestinain NT making it to the finals..
All i can do is wish them good luck. I am not going to shut the door on a NT making it to something big. I read over the game against Uzbekistan and i feel that the team can improve....but they need to pass through Iraq.

In the AFC, the group stages is like a tournament. All 4 teams play in 1 country. Most of the games are played in Tashkent, Uzbekistan!

Aharon6
05 Jul 2004, 09:03 PM
Is real particular this way of make many games in one country only.
In this case was probably difficult play in Iraq, or in the territory that the palestinian persons want, they have a decent stadium for WC qualification?
About Uzbekistan is not rich, but is real particular, I have one friend in Namagam, not big city near Kyrgyzstan and so in North-East of Uzbekistan.
She is not muslim and she is from the 0,9% of Korean abitants.
When there was the game vs Palestine she told something to some friends of her (students) and they told that she was stupid, that for they was not important win when the National Team play against a muslim Nation.
Incredible I think. Here is Europe, North, East, Oceania, Australia, South America, that I saw I did not listen in any places that is not importat to win if I play against one nation of the same religion.
One question the President of the arab club of Nazareth is arab with Israeli passport or is palestine?
I wait for Your answer.
With respect



Yes there is Palestinian communities South America. Including Brazil, Ecuador, Peru and alot in Venerzuela. I think Chile is a big community. Someone mentioned that they have over 300,000 decendents.

In the group is:
Palestine*
Iraq
Taiwan
Uzbekistan...

Only 4 teams in General.
As for the Palestinain NT making it to the finals..
All i can do is wish them good luck. I am not going to shut the door on a NT making it to something big. I read over the game against Uzbekistan and i feel that the team can improve....but they need to pass through Iraq.

In the AFC, the group stages is like a tournament. All 4 teams play in 1 country. Most of the games are played in Tashkent, Uzbekistan!

Kappa18
06 Jul 2004, 12:29 AM
Is real particular this way of make many games in one country only.
In this case was probably difficult play in Iraq, or in the territory that the palestinian persons want, they have a decent stadium for WC qualification?
About Uzbekistan is not rich, but is real particular, I have one friend in Namagam, not big city near Kyrgyzstan and so in North-East of Uzbekistan.
She is not muslim and she is from the 0,9% of Korean abitants.
When there was the game vs Palestine she told something to some friends of her (students) and they told that she was stupid, that for they was not important win when the National Team play against a muslim Nation.
Incredible I think. Here is Europe, North, East, Oceania, Australia, South America, that I saw I did not listen in any places that is not importat to win if I play against one nation of the same religion.
One question the President of the arab club of Nazareth is arab with Israeli passport or is palestine?
I wait for Your answer.
With respect

The owner of Achi Nazareth Football club does have an Israeli passport. I doubt he has a Palestinian passport. Same goes with Achi Nazareth players, who most of them are either muslim arabs or Israeli jews...
Israel does not (currently) have any Palestinians playing in the leauge. It does however have Israeli Arabs playing in the leauge from Liga Ahal to Liga Gimmel, south....as far as i can go in the leauge standings....

Muslim nations vs. Muslim nation pretty much doesn't have anything to do with Muslims being friendly to each other. A game is a game, and people must want to play and win. Most of the AFC are muslims and they play very aggressive football with a passion....

With Uzbekistan, i think that all 4 nations were not that good to play in. Uzbekistan has internall-racial conflicts, Taiwan has issues with China, Iraq is Iraq and Palestinian has the terror infrastructure still put...

so i guess they might even go forth and play at an even neutral area...probably Abu Dubai or Hong Kong! :D

Saudi64
06 Jul 2004, 11:02 AM
Israel vs Palestine would be interesting, but probably impossible due to the political problems between the two countries. but if they would play against each other, id think Israel would win like 3-1, or 2-1.