View Full Version : Ball hogs
Tony Dellbird
03 Jul 2004, 04:36 PM
i just have goes at them and get really annoyed and tell them they're sh!t everytime they miss, they'll lose confidence and then say 'you think you can do better' n passes you the ball...problem solved
C. Ronaldo7
03 Jul 2004, 04:40 PM
i just have goes at them and get really annoyed and tell them they're sh!t everytime they miss, they'll lose confidence and then say 'you think you can do better' n passes you the ball...problem solved
well I guess that's one way...............
Tony Dellbird
03 Jul 2004, 08:08 PM
Main way of doing it is not to be such a pansy, and not be afraid to hurt someones feelings, because your reason is 'it's for the good of the team' and with that good excuse, really take him to school pick up things about his teeth, maybe his nose is a bit big? Maybe he walks like he has a load in his pants! Trust me it's fun to take the piss! lol
AE1603s
04 Jul 2004, 11:31 AM
when he messes up, or gets ball stolen, everyone on your team should just yell at him and get on his back for screwing up
ConorM
04 Jul 2004, 10:44 PM
Its cool ,ball hogs are never good players and never become good players so before long they will be dropped if you have any size of a squad.
Tony Dellbird
05 Jul 2004, 06:59 AM
Conor are you Irish?
ConorM
05 Jul 2004, 07:20 PM
Yeah, we don't have too many ball hogs here, we tackle too hard.
smith07
05 Jul 2004, 08:58 PM
if the entire squad revolves around him, find another team
prk166
05 Jul 2004, 09:07 PM
How do you deal with a ball hog on your team because whipping his a$$ and taking the ball
Do you remember that scene in the movie Fargo? The one with the tree grinder?
http://www.paradisetree.com/images/grinder.jpg
servotron
06 Jul 2004, 11:43 AM
Hahah, well put!
I'm on a once-in-a-while team with a serious ball hog, and the problem with him is that he every now and then DOES get through everyone and get a shot off, but he's SO hyper that half the time he blasts it 10 feet over the net (from 10 yards out), dribbles straight into the charging goalie, or whiffs it wide. He really doesn't score that often.
Worse yet, every now and then he DOES pass, and there's a problem with that.. if you never practice you'll never be that great at it. Occasionally he will see an opportunity to get someone else in the area (or hell, even midfield) and he'll go for the pass, but he almost ALWAYS waits too long to get the pass off.
I had to get this off my chest somewhere, it's no use talking to him about it (we yell at him on-field all the time), ball hogs like him never change...He's a really nice guy, to boot, just a ball hog!
I've got another semi-ball-hog on my main team, but he does recognize a good pass when he sees it. Just about 1/3 of the time he tries to carry too far.. that can be overlooked because he's got great hustle and does end up with a good number of assists and goals. Most particularly he and I have some sort of psychic corner kick connection. It seems that when he's in, I can place a corner wherever I please, within inches of where I want it to be, and he's got a very aggressive header go-getter! Heh.
all_conference
27 Jul 2004, 03:43 AM
When the ball hogger dribbles instead of passing when you make runs it's like the trust between you and him is not there anymore and all you can do is watch. It really makes you and other team mates feel out of place. That's really what ball hoggers do to the team, they only care bout themselves, sure they want to win, but they don't understand the part about others wanting to win also. A guy on my team dribbles and he doesn't know it, he denies that he dribbles a lot and instead says "well how can I pass you the ball if i don't have complete control of the ball" but really, he traps it, does a pull back and then loses it. So I'm confused by that. Any other ways I can do to stop people from hogging or holding the ball for too long?
servotron
27 Jul 2004, 11:05 AM
The answer to that question is that the offending player needs to learn how to control the ball quicker, or learn to make passes while the ball is NOT in control (the true mark of a skilled player). Not only will it serve his ball-hogging needs, but it will serve his ability to make available some PASSES.
That's the biggest problem I have with most ball hogs I've known: They never really improve. They sort of live on the skills they learned as a 13 year old and never get past that. I can't remember the last time I saw one of the ball hogs I know try something new or inventive. They rely on their speed and aggressiveness to win the ball and get goals. That stuff wanes with age, and I can't imagine it maintaining even the mediocre success rate that they have for too long....(myself and most players in my leagues are around 30)
SCoach
27 Jul 2004, 01:05 PM
I get the feeling you guys just fail to understand ball-hogs. I love them. Wish I had about a dozen. I recruit them. Why? Because ball-hogs have something most other kids never develop. Confidence on the ball. It takes a strong coach to deal with a ball-hog but it is the coach's job to do it. But I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of players out on the field who feel that at ANY TIME, they can win the game for me on their own, than have a bunch of people out on the field with 1o minutes left in a match who are looking for anyone else BUT them to go win a match.
Give me 6 or 7 players who'll drive the ball down the opponents throat to win a game, and if they lose it will track back and try it again, and I'll win championships with that team. Most of your top internationals, male and female are or were ball hogs. That should tell you something.
Of course as a team you could always play the ball to the ball-hog one touch and then have everyone else just turn their backs or all make wide runs with their back to the ball. :)
galperin
27 Jul 2004, 03:09 PM
Want to know how to deal with a ball hog:
break his leg...he'll stop.
BackOtheNet!
27 Jul 2004, 03:25 PM
How do you deal with a ball hog on your team because whipping his a$$ and taking the ball
As a player whack him every time before he turns.
As a coach bench him and hand him a ball till he gets it.
guado
27 Jul 2004, 03:27 PM
i always think its funny when the biggest ballhog on the team accuses you of being a ballhog ... especially when you refuse to pass it to him(happened to me last week.)
dienasty
27 Jul 2004, 04:07 PM
its the coaches responsibility really. just play your game. i dont like the term ball hog considering that soccer is a possession game at times. he just needs to know his role on the team. and be more deciscive on the field with what he is going to do with the ball. i hate hearing people say "get rid of it" like the ball is something you dont want at least he is keeping possession of it.
LeslieSantosfan
28 Jul 2004, 12:16 AM
I get the feeling you guys just fail to understand ball-hogs. I love them. Wish I had about a dozen. I recruit them. Why? Because ball-hogs have something most other kids never develop. Confidence on the ball. It takes a strong coach to deal with a ball-hog but it is the coach's job to do it. But I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of players out on the field who feel that at ANY TIME, they can win the game for me on their own, than have a bunch of people out on the field with 1o minutes left in a match who are looking for anyone else BUT them to go win a match.
Give me 6 or 7 players who'll drive the ball down the opponents throat to win a game, and if they lose it will track back and try it again, and I'll win championships with that team. Most of your top internationals, male and female are or were ball hogs. That should tell you something.
Of course as a team you could always play the ball to the ball-hog one touch and then have everyone else just turn their backs or all make wide runs with their back to the ball. :)
I see your points, what kinda team you coach?
SCoach
28 Jul 2004, 12:31 AM
College Asst. (Top 20), U18 girls (national level team), Recreational Adult women. Pretty wide variety. Also used to coach HS Varsity (7 years).
all_conference
28 Jul 2004, 04:58 AM
I get the feeling you guys just fail to understand ball-hogs. I love them. Wish I had about a dozen. I recruit them. Why? Because ball-hogs have something most other kids never develop. Confidence on the ball. It takes a strong coach to deal with a ball-hog but it is the coach's job to do it. But I'd MUCH rather have a bunch of players out on the field who feel that at ANY TIME, they can win the game for me on their own, than have a bunch of people out on the field with 1o minutes left in a match who are looking for anyone else BUT them to go win a match.
Give me 6 or 7 players who'll drive the ball down the opponents throat to win a game, and if they lose it will track back and try it again, and I'll win championships with that team. Most of your top internationals, male and female are or were ball hogs. That should tell you something.
Of course as a team you could always play the ball to the ball-hog one touch and then have everyone else just turn their backs or all make wide runs with their back to the ball. :)
Explain how a "strong" coach would deal with someone that wants to drive the ball down the opponents throat to win a game? Keep him in the game no matter what happens? Make everyone pass him the ball? If so, how could someone get the coach to listen to them to do the following things I said?