New FIFA "school" rule: What does it mean for the USMNT?

Joseph, I'd imagine, is cap-tied.

I think this is huge for the kids who spend college in this nation. We wouldn't have lost that kid to I think it was El Salvador because we couldn't get his citizenship in time

 

I don't know that High school is compulsory.

 

Does this mean we can just stock Bradenton up with kids from all over the world?

 

--I'm not sure it would, the article states that it applies to players with five years of compulsory education so I think it would only affect those who attended high school or below here.

 

This rule makes things easier for developed countries to plunder talents from poorer countries. I don't think a country like Sierra Leone is going to benefit too much from this rule, but UK certainly can.

 

Obviously, Clint. There's no such thing as English citizenship. There is such a thing as American citizenship, and Soumare never got it.

 

I highlighted the key word. Jesus, dude, do you not understand the concept of citizenship? Not to mention the concept of being cap-tied.

This thread should be closed, frankly.

 

I doubt college is considered "compulsory education."

 

Up to a certain age, that varies state by state. Doesn't matter anyway cause Bradley and never gonna use em anyway

 

If this rule really is interpreted by FIFA in the manner Clint suggests, it really could open things up for players who have been in this country a long time but aren't citizens because the bureaucracy is so long and difficult to become naturalized.

Ramon Nunez, Shalrie Joseph, Bakary Soumare, Carlos Ochoa, Chris Gbandi - all these guys could have played for the US under the criteria explained in the first post. Not sure if Vedad spent 5 years here.

How many years of school did Stefan Frei have in the US? Does college count? Rodney Wallace certainly has five years here BEFORE college. This rule could be great for him. When does it take effect?

 

The first paragraph of the article clearly states that this is a specifically British situation:

Wales are ready to give the St Mirren midfielder Andy Dorman the chance to be capped at senior level under the new school rule, which changes the criteria of which country British players can represent.

 

Well, the article isn't specific, but it seems to be implying that this is a rule regarding the UK only (being that they are, uniquely, four separate countries within one state). There is a long history of disagreement regarding which British citizen can play for which UK country, and this rule intends to clarify these disagreements. If that is correct, and I'm pretty sure it is, then this rule doesn't apply to any other country or countries, including but not limited to the US.

Unless anyone can find the written rule and refute what I've said, then I'm gonna have to second Superdave and ask that this thread be closed.

 

High School is compulsory up to age 16, generally.

 

The only way this can apply to the United States is if somebody went to school for 5 years in Puerto Rico.

Perhaps this should be moved to the Puerto Rico NT board.

 

Yura Movsysian, perhaps?

 

Puerto Rico has a national team?

 

another article on this subject - with of course mention of Ryan Giggs ....

http://wdkf.co.uk/2009/10/15/the-national-lottery-fifa-change-the-laws-for-uk-representation/

 

http://www.flintshirechronicle.co.u...n-shawcross-to-play-for-wales-51352-24931245/

and another ...

5 years of compulsory education in the US is middle school thru high school in the US .... guess citizenship does not matter now ....

and if you are not cap tied by home country but schooled in middle and high school (college is NOT mandatory=compulsory) ....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodney_Wallace_(soccer)

so can Rodney (I don't think he is cap tied yet) now play for the US?

 

It says "compulsory education" so I think we're talking high school and earlier, no?

Also Dorman is a citizen of the United Kingdom, so his issue is determining which countries within the UK he's eligible to play for. I'm not sure it becomes applicable for us in this situation, particularly since anyone from Puerto Rico is eligible to play for us regardless.

 

There seems to be some unnecessary talking at cross purposes in this thread. Why does it need to be closed? It seems to be an interesting topic.

From what I've read in this thread, and I haven't gone to the actual FIFA ruling to confirm anything, it certainly seems this affect the USMNT. If I understand correctly, anyone who spends 5 years of education in childhood but doesn't have US citizenship could be eligible to play for the US team (unless the FIFA statue in question ALSO requires that the individual in question have citizenship of the country in addition to the 5 years of school, which would mean that it primarily affects the UK). I'm not familiar with who this would effect specifically at the moment but apparently there are a number of potential candidates.

'Compulsory education' is a term FIFA would have to define more clearly especially if it will apply to a large number of nations, but it clearly does not include college/university education but would almost certainly include any education in the US from age 6-16 (the age you're legally required to go to school in most states I think) and might be broadened to include any education in primary or secondary school (high school)..

 

From the Scottish FA website, who according to news reports proposed the rule. I can't find any information on FIFA's site though.

"The youngster is the first player to be selected for Scotland under the new FIFA eligibility ruling, which states that a player who holds a British passport, and has been educated for at least five years in one of the Home Nations, is eligible to play for that country."

From that it seems it only applies to Home Nation eligibility