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Case
29 Jun 2004, 08:29 AM
Yeah why doesn't Beckham jus accept he messed up, people would probably like him better for it.
Yea, he has a few things to answer for, but thats not really one of them. See it in slow mo, and u actually see the ball leave the ground when he plants his standing foot next to it. For more evidence, look at before Cristiano takes his, he's jumping on it with both his sassy gold vapors, and when he gets off eachtime, it rises up again, like a mini-pitching mound from baseball.
Now why he didn't run much, now that he can take criticism for....

PizzicatoJive
29 Jun 2004, 09:25 AM
Becks7, nice to have another keeper in the thread. I think you (and Kristian) are mistaking what I said earlier. Actually, it seems like we're close to agreeing. You're right, if you don't move before the shot, you don't really have a chance. Especially when so many people decide to mash it into the goal.
But that would be reacting to the ball, not the shot. The shot is based on the player's movements, before and while striking the ball. So it's that information that I react to. But yeah, I move before the ball does. When a keeper does it right though, and the attacker isn't skilled at hiding the clues, it's not guessing. Maybe we should start a keeper thread? (How do you save your penalty kicks?)

Caesar
29 Jun 2004, 10:00 AM
Usually straight, perhaps a slice of lemon and tonic water if I'm after something lighter. On the rocks in summer, perfect after a long hot day.

sunburnt
29 Jun 2004, 03:53 PM
back to the beckham thing, i dont know why people think he's horrible at taking pk's. if you watch old videos, he takes them brilliantly.

m.u.f.c
29 Jun 2004, 04:36 PM
i now i think he is still a great penalty taker even though he did that over the bar that dont make him sh** and when barthez saved it that wos a good penalty but with a good save so u cant blame him luk at when he put us through in the world cup against argentina that wos a good penalty the keeper had no chance

jtowns3
29 Jun 2004, 04:53 PM
i now i think he is still a great penalty taker even though he did that over the bar that dont make him sh** and when barthez saved it that wos a good penalty but with a good save so u cant blame him luk at when he put us through in the world cup against argentina that wos a good penalty the keeper had no chance


yeah i agree. he should have hit it low somewhere in the vicinity of the middle of the goal. if the keeper touches it, it probably goes in. if he gets a hold of it...it would sting. I dont know, becks has to learn how to take his PK's like he did in the world cup against argentina!

Becks7
29 Jun 2004, 06:01 PM
it's not that Becks is a bad PK taker, i'm sure for the 3 ******** up's we've seen, he's hit 100 perfect ones in practice/other games.


had becks missed a PK, 4 years ago, no big deal ...but it's just that he's been unlucky on 3 consecutive attempts...

ConorM
29 Jun 2004, 06:43 PM
For whoever was enquiring, it is against the rules to stop your run up once its started when taking a penalty. The Portugese players that do it, do it legally as if you watch slow motion replays they never come to a complete stop throughout the motion. They usually slam their foot into the ground to put the keeper off. I don't see how they could stop this as its perfectly fair. If They tripped themselves up then the penalty would break that specific rule and wouldn't count.

As for penalties there is one way to take them if you want to score them consistently, if you hit them hard then you will never miss unless you miss the target, pure and simple. No keeper has ever saved a powerful shot into the side netting from a penalty I am sure. Matt Le Tissier was the world's greatest penalty taker, he scored 39 out of 40 in his career. Only missing one were he hit it too low and the keeper made the best penalty save I have ever seen. You hit the ball with power, into the top corner or very bottom corner, no keeper will ever save it. Pros should be accurate enough to never miss, theres no real excuse for not scoring 9 out of 10 penalties. For amateur players obviously their accuracy is not as good but as long as its reasonable and you have a decent shot, you should still score almost every time if you are intelligent about it.

Oh and Beckham is a woeful Penalty taker, compared to Van Nistelrooy, Shearer, Del Piero, Zidane or other great takers. Whilst probably the best striker of a dead ball in the world, he is rubbish at penalties. WHy? Because he is so one dimensional with his kicks. The keeper knows its going in one of two places, with power, making the choice of where to dive easy. His run up is very predictable making it obvious were he is going to go for a good keeper, so therefore if the keeper chooses a way based on this run up he has a better than 50% chance of getting it right. He has no disguise whatsoever. The angle his body makes with thr ground is brilliant at swerving a ball over a wall, but no good for consistent powerful penalties. If he conects with one right in the corner which he can, no keeper will save it, but the way he takes them ensures that this will never happen consistently. He will continue to lose grip with the standing foot and be second guessed by keepers. The keeper in the 2002 wc should have saved it as it was so obvious he was hitting it down the middle. Even then he kept it low which is wrong as the keeper can save with his legs. He got lucky vs Argentina.

Tony Dellbird
30 Jun 2004, 04:00 AM
yeah i agree. he should have hit it low somewhere in the vicinity of the middle of the goal. if the keeper touches it, it probably goes in. if he gets a hold of it...it would sting. I dont know, becks has to learn how to take his PK's like he did in the world cup against argentina!

I disagree i think his penalty against Argentina was crap he just hit it hard and down the middle the keeper was about 30cm from it even though he was on his knee and guessed the wrong way. If he had done it the other way...

guado
30 Jun 2004, 04:46 AM
makign a hard stomp is allowed, its not considered stopping. this is how zico took his p.k.s. i shoot mine the way my dad taught me - at first, i line up, and i wander from side to side, so the keeper doesn't know which side i will pick. then i make eye contact with the keeper, then look around, and wander around the edge of teh box some more.(this is completely unneccessary, btu it can make a keeper nervous as hell.) the key is how i line up - about the edge of the box, directly behind the ball, with my sight down then i run in a straight line, and whichever foot i'm not kicking with is pointed straight. then i shoot with whichever foot is more comfortable (i decide a few steps before before i get to the ball.). my dad was pretty good with both his feet and can still do this even though he's 50 and has battered knees and ankles. but it's always low, and NEVER ever to the center. i've never missed a pk when i do this and only once has a keeper dove for the p.k. the other times the keepers stood and watched it go in.

Becks7
30 Jun 2004, 06:18 AM
[QUOTE=ConorM]For whoever was enquiring, it is against the rules to stop your run up once its started when taking a penalty. The Portugese players that do it, do it legally as if you watch slow motion replays they never come to a complete stop throughout the motion. They usually slam their foot into the ground to put the keeper off. I don't see how they could stop this as its perfectly fair. If They tripped themselves up then the penalty would break that specific rule and wouldn't count.
/QUOTE]


i thought it had to be one FLUID motion, that means no slowing down/speeding up etc...

it's one of those rules that , like keepers leaving their line too early...never really gets called..

jtowns3
30 Jun 2004, 10:20 AM
I disagree i think his penalty against Argentina was crap he just hit it hard and down the middle the keeper was about 30cm from it even though he was on his knee and guessed the wrong way. If he had done it the other way...

I just watched the PK highlight from the world cup again and i guess i think that it is a good PK because it was struck with so much pace. I do agree with you that the keeper should have and could have saved it but if he was going to strike the hell outta the ball and hit it down the middle, he did a good job. maybe it looked (argentina 2002) so good because of his misses in this tournament... :p

ConorM
30 Jun 2004, 10:31 PM
You don't have to use on fluid motion, what sort of rule would that be. Impossible to enforce. As for the keeper coming off the line, it is a common occurence and is almost never called enough. The run up thing is different, no one hardly ever stops completely. Throughout this whole tournament not one player has stopped completely if you watch the slow motion replays.

servotron
30 Jun 2004, 11:23 PM
I was just wondering how people take their penalties. I used to try and place ball to one side or the other or hit the side netting. after a couple of unfortunate misses(shot off the post, saved by keeper etc..) i have opted for the blasted approach. I havent missed yet and because i tend to hit the ball really hard (like a drive) even if the keeper gets a touch, it usually goes in.
just curious. thanks.

The secret is to stay calm. Trying too hard will almost ALWAYS get yourself a field goal, and that's not the kind of goal we're looking for.

I take two steps back, stop, and take two steps forward to kick it very hard about 5 feet off the ground every time. There's just no chance for the keeper, and that's they way it's supposed to be. I can't ever remember missing a PK I've taken, so I think my method is working :)

AE1603s
29 Jul 2004, 04:44 PM
I take the penalties for my club team and school team... I'm not really sure what I do, but I get a goalie to move, and I just put it to the other side. And if he doesnt move, I just put it to a corner. Simple, hard, accurte, and I dont try or think too hard about what I'm doing. I acutally walk to the ball, and about 2-3 steps from the ball, I actually go into my kicking motion

slipnslide
29 Jul 2004, 08:11 PM
I just tell myself that I'm going to make it, because for me, the most important thing is to have the confidence.

PSsoccer123
29 Jul 2004, 10:57 PM
I stare at one side of the goal for a while and then just place it in the bottom corner of the other side. The goalie always dives the other way haha.

riceburner3508
30 Jul 2004, 12:10 AM
if you wanna see the video clip of beckham's PK miss, its right here "

http://www.soccerclips.net/euro2004/24.6/x-porto-england--pen_2-2.zip

its a zip file so youll need winzip to open that.

LeslieSantosfan
02 Aug 2004, 04:00 AM
I miss, or my shot get saved.

I just am not born with PK talent... :(

arcticduane
02 Aug 2004, 05:09 AM
Took one recently in a final for my skool team and it was horrible. I was gonna sidefoot it into the bottom right corner but last minute i wanted to dink it. It tured out to bend towards the bottom right corner then towads the centre. The keepr dived left and saved it with his feet. BTW it was one of the slowest PKs ever. It didnt matter though because we won :D. This added our fourth trophy of the season. Now i just smash my penalties into the roof of the net. BTW my record for all teams is 17 scored 1 miss.