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KrystianR9
25 Jun 2004, 02:01 PM
when i take penalty kicks i usually place the ball but pretty hard. I always look to the right side before i kick the ball, and when im in motion of hittin the ball i look to right again. Also i kick the ball so it looks like it will go to the right. Usuaully goalies go for it. The dive to the right. I havent missed any PKs during the game but i dont take alot of them.


Power shot to top orner is to dangerous in way of missing that why most pro players shoot on the ground or in the middle. When a goalie is good and know that the only way to save a PK it to guess than you have to be good at fooling them because if they dive hard on a placement they might save it. But many goalies on HS level doesnt know that he has to guess. One of the golaies on my team dives when the ball is in the net already ;). But the starting goalie is good at it but some player lough when he goes to the opposite side oof the ball. You can automatically tell they dont watch soccer. But oh well thats how i take PKs.

PizzicatoJive
25 Jun 2004, 04:16 PM
Power shot to top orner is to dangerous in way of missing that why most pro players shoot on the ground or in the middle. When a goalie is good and know that the only way to save a PK it to guess than you have to be good at fooling them because if they dive hard on a placement they might save it. But many goalies on HS level doesnt know that he has to guess. One of the golaies on my team dives when the ball is in the net already ;). But the starting goalie is good at it but some player lough when he goes to the opposite side oof the ball. You can automatically tell they dont watch soccer. But oh well thats how i take PKs.

I'm sorry, but a goalkeeper doesn't HAVE to guess by any means. In fact, they really shouldn't ever. You make it seem as if it's nearly a 50/50 chance; if the goalkeeper guesses right, you miss the shot, if not, you've got the goal (provided you can pass it accurately on net).
Actually, the shooter has a much more difficult time than this in a penalty kick situation. A big reason for this is precedent and pressure. They're expected to make it, but it's not that simple. There have been enough goalkeepers in history (and high school, contrary to what you might think) to believe that guessing is the right way to stop a penalty, that now it's fairly well believed that they don't have a clue, and making the shot is easy. Because of this, shooters believe that their shot needs to be quick, to beat the keeper if they did happen to guess correctly. The truth of it though, if the goalkeeper is well-trained, he should stop all but the best, most well-placed shots. There are all kinds of clues to read before the kick happens, and even more while the kick is happening. A successful penalty shot is one that disguises those clues and leaves the keeper with either no certainty, or feints him to the wrong direction. Success is not a powerful shot. You should be well aware of your center of gravity, your angle to the goal, your forward/rearward posture as you strike the ball, the position of your foot (to the center/side of the ball, and center/side of your instep), and even the angle of your ankle. There's more than that, but you get the idea. There are ways to tell from each of these which direction your shot will go.

dasoccerplayafosho
25 Jun 2004, 04:43 PM
yeah, don't watch beckham. I wonder if that ended up in the top row, or it it cleared the stadium completely. Watch Portugal's keeper. That was a great penalty. I like to choose one side, and practice it until I have that side down. It's easier than trying to switch. I can hit all four corners quite consistantly now, though I've only taken 7 PKs during games. Made all of them, but one I shouldn't have I was just looking at one corner a little more on purpose, he dove to that side, then I accidentally hit it right down the middle. Still went in. Drawing them off with your eyes is fun. It just makes them nervous.
Austen

KrystianR9
25 Jun 2004, 04:47 PM
well by guessing I mean try to read a player and pick a corner and dive to it right when the players is kicking the ball. Well the goals are bigger in pro soccer than in HS i belive. If you think im wrong you dont watch soccer man. GOalies guess to save a PK...they cant dive after player kicks the ball. It be too late. Read the players foot and dive. THATS ALL

KrystianR9
25 Jun 2004, 04:51 PM
yeah, don't watch beckham. I wonder if that ended up in the top row, or it it cleared the stadium completely. Watch Portugal's keeper. That was a great penalty. I like to choose one side, and practice it until I have that side down. It's easier than trying to switch. I can hit all four corners quite consistantly now, though I've only taken 7 PKs during games. Made all of them, but one I shouldn't have I was just looking at one corner a little more on purpose, he dove to that side, then I accidentally hit it right down the middle. Still went in. Drawing them off with your eyes is fun. It just makes them nervous.
Austen
When Ricardo (poruguess goalie) saved the Pk yesterday. You think he didnt guess?? he did guys...there is no other way to save a shot like that. ;)...how many times did the goalies last night went to the oppisite side of the ball? most of the time. ;) so think about it.

amanzo81
25 Jun 2004, 08:39 PM
Dont know if anyone saw the mexican league final that went to penalty kick a week back. Adolfo bautista didnt take any run up to he ball at all. He placed the ball down, took a step to the side, then fired as soon as the ref gave the signal. Why dont more players try this? If you shoot the ball well, a big run up isnt going to make a difference. And this way, the keeper has less of a chance to pick up any hints on shot placement that you may give. Just a thought thought, any comments?

(TxT)
25 Jun 2004, 08:47 PM
i agree - i found Cronaldo's try last night to be completely illegal


Doesn't it specifly state in the LOTG that once the kick taker starts towards the kick he cannot stop at all, they can slow down and run awkwardly but can't stop like Croni did. :D

Fat Mike
25 Jun 2004, 09:18 PM
Doesn't it specifly state in the LOTG that once the kick taker starts towards the kick he cannot stop at all, they can slow down and run awkwardly but can't stop like Croni did. :D


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FusionPlayer
25 Jun 2004, 11:34 PM
can someone post a site that has a clip of his penalty kick?

Callump
26 Jun 2004, 12:35 AM
i tend to put my pks in the back of the net.

dasoccerplayafosho
26 Jun 2004, 01:26 AM
well by guessing I mean try to read a player and pick a corner and dive to it right when the players is kicking the ball. Well the goals are bigger in pro soccer than in HS i belive. If you think im wrong you dont watch soccer man. GOalies guess to save a PK...they cant dive after player kicks the ball. It be too late. Read the players foot and dive. THATS ALL

yeah, I know what you're saying, but then we were u-12. not many people guessed at that age.

I assure you that the goals are the same size for high school and professional. 8 yards long, 8 feet high.
Austen

Callump
26 Jun 2004, 01:30 AM
yeah, I know what you're saying, but then we were u-12. not many people guessed at that age.

I assure you that the goals are the same size for high school and professional. 8 yards long, 8 feet high.
Austen

our goals are bigger than that.

dex1
26 Jun 2004, 10:58 AM
I Place The Ball Down Walk Backwards Facing The Goalie Then Take A Step To The Left And Run Up The Switch To The Other Side At The Last Moment And Hit The Ball With The Outside Of My Rite Foot Into The Bottem Right. When You Take A Pk Your Non Kicking Foot Should Step Infront Of The Ball So You Cant Lean Bac And Ski It.

C. Ronaldo7
26 Jun 2004, 11:05 AM
You know how Beckham takes them? Well I take them the complete opposite way.

FusionPlayer
26 Jun 2004, 11:31 AM
You know how Beckham takes them? Well I take them the complete opposite way.

so that means you don't shoot it to the top row? lol

C. Ronaldo7
26 Jun 2004, 11:41 AM
Man, I saw a highlight, that wasn't even close.

dasoccerplayafosho
26 Jun 2004, 11:43 AM
our goals are bigger than that.
the argument kristian was making is that goals in HS are smaller. I doubt that your goals are bigger, because no one makes goals bigger than 8 ft x 24 ft, but that's the size that the pros play on. see the laws of the game (fifa.com)
Austen

FusionPlayer
26 Jun 2004, 11:50 AM
Beckham said when he planted his foot the ball must of lifted cause there is no way it could og gone the way it did from there..........someones trying to cover up their stupidity I've seen lots of people hit it high from the pk mark

romagol10
26 Jun 2004, 06:05 PM
I've only taken PKs in shootouts. I used to pass it in to the lower left corner like Cole did against Portugal. Now I blast it right down the middle about 7 feet in the air, occasionally clipping the crossbar or accidentaly going upper 90, I've never had it saved in a shootout.

FusionPlayer
26 Jun 2004, 10:54 PM
in the holland/sweden an swedish guy missed high and then the announcer said "well he's beckhamed it" not only does beckham have a shoe made after him he has a soccer move named after him but I don't know how popular it is gonna be lol..............no offence to the beckham fans